Israel 'ready for escalation' of Gaza conflict

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I’m sorry you are assuming and wrong.

I did read it, the moral equivalence is indicative of a middle eastern country? No non arab non-muslim citizens are treated with equal rights in terrorist countries. The idea of equal rights in the US has been illusive itself a very long time. And of course we know precisely what the Hamas doctrine states about the Jews and what in fact was stated by them today. Praise for killing Jews!!! .

Hows that moral equivalence? No Bibles, selective reading material, persecution, tax or death and so forth. We should be protesting terrorism everywhere. Not those fighting against it.
Two wrongs don’t make a right. And I never once defended Hamas. My point is that there is blame on both sides. So let me make this clear:

Hamas is an organization which supports terrorism. I condemn this, and their actions. Their actions only set back their cause. They should instead engage in non-violent protests and civil disobedience to reach their aims. Gandhi-style, MLK-style.

Israel must slowly and carefully move out of the illegal settlements they’ve allowed on the West Bank. According to international law, these settlements constitute a violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_law_and_Israeli_settlements. They ought to do it very slowly, even if it takes two decades, all with the help of the international community.

But Israel will not give these up because they see those lands as part of their biblical heritage. My point is, Israel is also to blame and they aren’t taking necessary steps from their side, either. Rightly or wrongly, when people are desperate they turn to violence. Extreme poverty, isolation, and discrimination leads to violence in any country, including our own.

Simply saying that Hamas needs to stop sending missiles to Israel and then peace will reign in the land! is an oversimplification. The actions of Hamas are wrong, but from their perspective, if they were simply ceases their hostile actions, then the war would end, but things would be just the way their were: Palestinians in poverty, the illegal settlements in place, and growing. This does not justify their violence, however, all I’m doing is declaring their point of view.

Just like in any relationship, there needs to be mutual understanding. Difficult as it may be for the Palestinians, they must learn to look at things from Israel’s point of view. Israel ought not look at things from the Hamas point of view, but certainly the Palestinian point of view. It’s sad that they chose Hamas for their own government, but hopefully that will change in the future.
 
President Obama just signed a $225 million package to replenish Israel’s missile defense system. Bill was passed by Congress on Friday. No video, still photographers only.
 
President Obama just signed a $225 million package to replenish Israel’s missile defense system. Bill was passed by Congress on Friday. No video, still photographers only.
And Gaza Saeb Erakat is appealing to the US for humanitarian aid as soon as tomorrow. I think the ceasefire may hold tomorrow. All seem to be on-board. Hamas is weakened, Israel just about completed it objectives.

Demilitarization is gonna be an issue though.

I think the funding is very telling about the fine line between humanitarian crisis and Israels right to defend itself.
 
Thir thread was started 5 weeks ago and I wonder how long it will continue? (months? a year ?) Events surrounding this conflict changes minute by minute.

I’d like to personally thank GaryTaylor who has been very active with his well worded, informative and accurate posts.

This is not to say that all posts have not been so. I was directed here by 7 sorrows and it’s important for all of us to stay focused on this very serious subject.

ALL things are possible with God. Only the free will of the Israeli people, their allies and the hamas organization together with their allies will determine the outcome of this conflict.

God bless this forum and each of us individually. I thank our Creator daily for the founders and supporters of this forum. We are family!
 
If I had a dollar for every time I heard someone sidestep reality in that manner I could simply buy Congress myself.🙂

telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/11007940/Gaza-Nearly-300-Palestinian-children-killed-says-UN.html
A top Hamas official said last week on live television that Jews use blood to make matzos.
“The Israelis concentrate on killing children,” Osama Hamdan, a top Hamas representative in Lebanon, said on Al-Quds TV. “I believe that this is engraved in the historical Zionist and Jewish mentality, which has become addicted to the killing of women and children.”
“We all remember how the Jews used to slaughter Christians in order to mix their blood in their holy matzos,” he continued, referring to the traditional unleavened bread that Jews eat during Passover.
This use of blood, Hamdan said, “is a fact, acknowledged by their own books and by historical evidence.”
The video clip was posted by the Middle East Media Research Institute’s TV Monitor Project.
m.nationalreview.com/corner/384542/top-hamas-offical-jews-use-blood-matzos-molly-wharton
 
A top Hamas official said last week on live television that Jews use blood to make matzos.

m.nationalreview.com/corner/384542/top-hamas-offical-jews-use-blood-matzos-molly-wharton
We must learn to differentiate between people simply voicing distasteful opinions and between mountains of slaughtered children. Trying to equate the two is madness, and it demonstrates how willfully blind people can be in any discussion regarding this enormously inflammatory and polarizing subject.

Dead kids far outweigh dumb rhetoric.
 
We must learn to differentiate between people simply voicing distasteful opinions and between mountains of slaughtered children. Trying to equate the two is madness, and it demonstrates how willfully blind people can be in any discussion regarding this enormously inflammatory and polarizing subject.

Dead kids far outweigh dumb rhetoric.
It goes to show how we can’t trust any claims Hamas Nazis.
 
We must learn to differentiate between people simply voicing distasteful opinions and between mountains of slaughtered children. Trying to equate the two is madness, and it demonstrates how willfully blind people can be in any discussion regarding this enormously inflammatory and polarizing subject.

Dead kids far outweigh dumb rhetoric.
Right. Foolish rhetoric by Hamas militants is no justification for killing hundreds of helpless children,some of them sleeping in hospitals, others sleeping in UN facilities, still others in schools or on the beach. Where in the Bible does it say it is OK to kill playing or sleeping children if some adult militant in the neighborhood is speaking foolishly?
 
We must learn to differentiate between people simply voicing distasteful opinions and between mountains of slaughtered children. Trying to equate the two is madness, and it demonstrates how willfully blind people can be in any discussion regarding this enormously inflammatory and polarizing subject.

Dead kids far outweigh dumb rhetoric.
I don’t think you seem to get it, i.e., Hamas breeds the hatred which fuels the wars, which causes the deaths of children. :mad:

P.S. And don’t tell me such lies or propaganda isn’t crucial in swaying the minds of Palestinians/Arabs, it did with the GERMANS.
 
I don’t think you seem to get it, i.e., Hamas breeds the hatred which fuels the wars, which causes the deaths of children. :mad:

P.S. And don’t tell me such lies or propaganda isn’t crucial in swaying the minds of Palestinians/Arabs, it did with the GERMANS.
Agreed. But the hatred of the extremist Zionists fuels hatred, too, leading to governments building illegal settlements in the occupied territories and squeezing the Palestinians out.
 
“We know that Hamas uses human shields. But why would you report this when you are sitting in the middle of the Gaza Strip, surrounded by Hamas gunmen?” 🤷

The uncovered media story…

google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCkQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gatestoneinstitute.org%2F4518%2Fmedia-hamas&ei=qdTfU92TNqffsASg04HQBw&usg=AFQjCNHm6uLpzjLuJ85Ty2EEr8RiR9lV1w

No decent human being could not feel compassion and sorrow over the scores of dead Palestinian civilians. But the almost pornographic close-ups of injured and killed Palestinians without explaining the central role Hamas plays in their deaths and injuries do more to confuse then enlighten the public.

In many ways, CCTV coverage of the conflict without the networks’ editorial picture selection and emotional but information-lacking voice-overs would probably do a better job at informing the public.

Yes, we would still see the destruction caused by Israeli shelling… but the CCTV cameras would also catch Hamas terrorists firing from civilian areas, show how the IDF is dropping leaflets warning civilians ahead of bombings and broadcast how civilians are used as human shields – all important elements of this war usually missing from the coverage.

Occasionally, though, the truth slips out, often almost accidentally. Take for example the July 15 story in the Washington Post, headlined, “While Israel held its fire, the militant group Hamas did not.” In the seventh paragraph we suddenly read that the Shifa Hospital in Gaza City had “become a de facto headquarters for Hamas leaders, who can be seen in the hallways and offices.”

google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCMQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thecommentator.com%2Farticle%2F5136%2Ffear_and_trembling_western_media_and_hamas&ei=qdTfU92TNqffsASg04HQBw&usg=AFQjCNEyleA-8EjqYlFPR4J_fN-1huqcow
Dear fellow posters.
A quick request for quotation marks to show text coming from online articles. Without such marks, it is difficult to determine where personal writing begins and ends, and posts are vulnerable to charges of plagiarism.
Thanks you and may God bless us all and all those who suffer in the Middle East. Amen.
 
Agreed. But the hatred of the extremist Zionists fuels hatred
You know exactly who they are? Seems to me the ideal runs parallel with the ideals of the good Jews.

“Critics of Zionism see it as a colonialist or racist ideology that led to the denial of rights, dispossession and expulsion of the “indigenous population of Palestine””

google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FZionism&ei=RJjgU8SeDIfL8AG26IDYBA&usg=AFQjCNGGlGZJ-cQz4OTlQX2LHrJqnT9g3g

Seems to me you are suggesting these people you can’t identify are the underlying issue of a unproven theory which is somehow related to the OP? You have to connect the dots for all this. Perhaps we can have them identified as a terrorist group like Hamas? We don’t want to call all muslims terrorists, right? So why the double standard with the Jews?
 
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