Issue with Mother-in-law

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My relationship with her isn’t the best, but it’s not the worst either. I was brought up learning that you do as much as you can to get along with your in-laws, even if you’re not crazy about them.

My issue is that she is constantly trying to “mother” me, and it makes me very uncomfortable. I realize she is closer to my grandmother’s age than my mother, so she probably sees me as a kid. I would describe our current relationship as cordial, because if I get any more intimate than that, I feel she gets pushy. Although she would probably describe it as helpful. (Think of Marie from “Everybody Loves Raymond.”) So I have just taken to be somewhat aloof with her. I don’t tell her more about myself than I really need to past small talk. That is the only way I really know to have boundaries with her.

Her latest thing is she has become concerned with my clothes. They live just downstairs from us. The day before Easter, I went down and asked her if the shade of my sweater coordinated with the shade of the dress I was planning to wear for Easter. I did this in good will, thinking that with a yes or no question, it would let her know I care about her opinion, but I would not have to feel infringed upon. She said the sweater matched, and I thanked her before going back up to our place. She came up that same day and gave me a $100 gift card to Macy’s and told me to go get a suit. She said seriously, “you’re not wearing that dress tomorrow.” I was very annoyed but just took the gift card and wore my own dress on Easter.

I had gotten over that incident and am no longer angry. Today, I got a package in the mail of some casual clothes from a mail order place. I’m almost certain they are from her. Whatever criticisms she has about my clothing are probably correct. I do tend to dress frumpy and wear what I have instead of always buying new things. My clothes are often faded or not in style. But I do get to choose my own clothes. The other issue is money. My husband and I do help them with regular financial support (electric, cable, house repairs, etc), as I think grown children should do for their parents. Part of me knows the polite thing to do is to say thank-you for the clothes and then just not wear them. But now this is a pattern. She is essentially spending our money to be pushy with me. I wouldn’t mind advice, “such and such would look really nice on you.” But this is beyond that. Assuming she did send me these clothes, I realize that I now have to tell her I appreciate her concern for me, but I prefer to get my own clothes. (my own mother doesn’t even buy clothes for me.) When I imagine this conversation I feel sick to my stomach. She will be very hurt. Once she stormed out of our place because she made dessert for us but we were not ready to eat it. She will think I don’t like her or value her opinion.

If you are still reading, I thank you. This vent has been cathartic for me. I could really use a pep talk and words of encouragement. We are living in a somewhat difficult situation, and I am just trying to make it bearable for all of us.
 
My wife and I have had to deal with my pushy mom quite a bit, and we still have a bit of a strained relationship at times, but take this for what it’s worth.

In terms of this specific issue, I’m sorry to say that I think you’ve brought a lot of it on yourself. You asked her opinion about your planned Easter outfit, because you wanted her to feel that you valued her opinion (your words). You opened the door and unfortunately she decided to run with it. Some people are like that (my mom is this way too). I would suggest that in the future you don’t open yourself to criticism or ask for her opinions on things unless you really need or want her help. You should be prepared for her to “take over” anything that you involve her in, no matter how benign.

Big picture, the fact that you live so close makes it tough to get separation. In addition to the living arrangements you are also providing financial support. It becomes even more important for you to set clear boundaries, and do not equivocate on what those boundaries are.
 
Tell her son to discretely tell his mother (as if he is not letting you know that he’s talking to her) that if anyone gets to buy your clothes for you, it needs to be him. I mean that this should not be coming from you, but that your husband should go to bat for you and say that he would rather she not buy you clothes. He can also point out to her that he is afraid she will hurt your feelings and you might take it as criticism if she sends you clothes, since some MILs are that way, after all. Clothes coming from him would not have that effect, because he knows that you will tell him if you don’t like something, and won’t be afraid that his feelings will get hurt, but that he knows you would never want to hurt her feelings. She’ll argue, but he needs to be firm…“sorry, Mom, but if this upset either of you, I’d never forgive myself. Buying clothes for a grown woman is a minefield, and in this case, it is my minefield, not yours. Besides, it would kill her to know you’re buying her clothes and going without when money is tight for you. We’re going to stop this while we’re ahead.”

IOW, he ought to act like he’s falling on his sword for the sake of the women in his life…which he is. If she storms out, well, he’s probably been dealing with that since he was 14. He’ll live.
 
Tell her son to discretely tell his mother (as if he is not letting you know that he’s talking to her) that if anyone gets to buy your clothes for you, it needs to be him. I mean that this should not be coming from you, but that your husband should go to bat for you and say that he would rather she not buy you clothes. He can also point out to her that he is afraid she will hurt your feelings and you might take it as criticism if she sends you clothes, since some MILs are that way, after all. Clothes coming from him would not have that effect, because he knows that you will tell him if you don’t like something, and won’t be afraid that his feelings will get hurt, but that he knows you would never want to hurt her feelings. She’ll argue, but he needs to be firm…“sorry, Mom, but if this upset either of you, I’d never forgive myself. Buying clothes for a grown woman is a minefield, and in this case, it is my minefield, not yours. Besides, it would kill her to know you’re buying her clothes and going without when money is tight for you. We’re going to stop this while we’re ahead.”

IOW, he ought to act like he’s falling on his sword for the sake of the women in his life…which he is. If she storms out, well, he’s probably been dealing with that since he was 14. He’ll live.
Wow, EasterJoy.
As always, you are the paragon of discretion.
 
Whatever you do, how ever you act, I would make 1000% sure those clothes came from your MIL.
 
Headron, I completely agree with you. I guess I was just testing the waters and got bit. The situation at Easter didn’t shock me. But sending me clothes in the mail took me by surprise.

And thanks to everyone. My husband is on his way home now, and I am interested to see what he thinks. He tends to be a pacifist 😉
 
Whatever you do, how ever you act, I would make 1000% sure those clothes came from your MIL.
This!! They can’t leap to the conclusion that MIL sent them. Hubby might say to his mother, “Mom, someone sent some new clothes in the mail to Hannah. Was that you, or does she have a secret admirer?”
 
😊 Okay, now I’m embarrassed. I inspected the invoice, and it looks like my mom payed for those clothes. But they look like clothes she would have ordered for herself. So I think they were mistakenly sent to my house. But my intuition is not very good today, so who knows.

Now excuse me while I go pray an Act of Contrition for thinking the worst about people…
(yes, I realize I stated in this very thread that my own mom doesn’t buy me clothes)
 
Headron, I completely agree with you. I guess I was just testing the waters and got bit. The situation at Easter didn’t shock me. But sending me clothes in the mail took me by surprise.

And thanks to everyone. My husband is on his way home now, and I am interested to see what he thinks. He tends to be a pacifist 😉
I think that she is trying to be nice. A lot of people who “grab our crayon” are only trying to help. 🤷 As the wry saying goes, “With all of my wisdom, it seems a shame to let it go to waste.” 😉 😃
 
😊 Okay, now I’m embarrassed. I inspected the invoice, and it looks like my mom payed for those clothes. But they look like clothes she would have ordered for herself. So I think they were mistakenly sent to my house. But my intuition is not very good today, so who knows.

Now excuse me while I go pray an Act of Contrition for thinking the worst about people…
(yes, I realize I stated in this very thread that my own mom doesn’t buy me clothes)
Well you know, at least you worked it out on the internet before having a “conversation” with your MIL.
 
Whew. good timing!

But, I still love Easter Joy’s advice. Subtle, and can work well!

Thank you, Lord, for all your tender mercies,
 
😊 Okay, now I’m embarrassed. I inspected the invoice, and it looks like my mom paid for those clothes. But they look like clothes she would have ordered for herself. So I think they were mistakenly sent to my house. But my intuition is not very good today, so who knows.

Now excuse me while I go pray an Act of Contrition for thinking the worst about people…
(yes, I realize I stated in this very thread that my own mom doesn’t buy me clothes)
If your mom and your MIL are trying to dress you, you might ask your dear hubby what they’re trying to tell you! :rolleyes:

Seriously, though, I don’t think you thought the worst of your MIL, not really. You just didn’t take her good intentions as well as you might have hoped. But yes, you dodged an in-law landmine, you did indeed. For that, give thanks!!
 
Yes, I am very thankful this all unfolded here and not in my real life. Thanks y’all for sticking this out with me.
 
Yes, I am very thankful this all unfolded here and not in my real life. Thanks y’all for sticking this out with me.
Well, some of us have had experience with troubling in-law relationships. If I had gotten fashion advice from my MIL, I might feel the same way you do about the Easter experience. I would also realize its not about the actual clothes but something entirely different. My MIL is significantly younger than my own mom. Now if I got clothes from my mom, whom is 86 years old, I would think she’s just trying to be very, very kind and just wanted to do something nice for me. Its all about the other issues underneath the surface sometimes. Other times, its about seeing the other person and where they are in their own lives.
 
I’m also glad you found out here instead finding out from your MIL. 😊

When it comes to dealing with any difficult person that you can not remove from your life I have found that once you accept that someone is going to make remarks and act a certain way then it doesn’t hurt as much and it is not as shocking. What I mean by accept is not say their bad behavior is ok but understand that that is what they are going to do regardless of what anyone says.

I have had comments from my mother in law about needing to wax my facial hair, color my hair, not color my hair, cooking, making coffee, walks, sewing, on and on ( 15 years worth) you name it, she has the correct opinion on it and apparently I don’t.

It used to really hurt and upset me when we were first married. I would be personally offended for periods of time and there was always tension in the air. Sometimes I wonder if that was the real goal. Now if I am doing something and it is not right (meaning her way) I listen to what she has to say, then I continue doing what I was doing. If she needs a verbal response I smile and say “Ok, sounds good, we’ll see”. I understand that she will always have her opinions and she will always need to let me know. I wish it was different but it isn’t. 🤷

Of course one should never tolorate abusive degrading remarks but other than that, Oh well.
 
I’m also glad you found out here instead finding out from your MIL. 😊

When it comes to dealing with any difficult person that you can not remove from your life I have found that once you accept that someone is going to make remarks and act a certain way then it doesn’t hurt as much and it is not as shocking. What I mean by accept is not say their bad behavior is ok but understand that that is what they are going to do regardless of what anyone says.

I have had comments from my mother in law about needing to wax my facial hair, color my hair, not color my hair, cooking, making coffee, walks, sewing, on and on ( 15 years worth) you name it, she has the correct opinion on it and apparently I don’t.

It used to really hurt and upset me when we were first married. I would be personally offended for periods of time and there was always tension in the air. Sometimes I wonder if that was the real goal. Now if I am doing something and it is not right (meaning her way) I listen to what she has to say, then I continue doing what I was doing. If she needs a verbal response I smile and say “Ok, sounds good, we’ll see”. I understand that she will always have her opinions and she will always need to let me know. I wish it was different but it isn’t. 🤷

Of course one should never tolorate abusive degrading remarks but other than that, Oh well.
There is one quality that I find helps in all difficult relationships, and it sounds as though you have it for your MIL.

It is, of course, COMPASSION. Compassion for all the broken ways we all try to do our best, as misguided and sinful as that might be…compassion for the attempts to love, even if they seem pathetic…compassion for people’s wounds, as we desire compassion for our own…I guess Jesus has granted this to me, I used to be very unforgiving of others’ mistakes. I am still sometimes too harsh toward others. But then in a moment, Jesus’ love washes over me and all I can do is forgive that person for his/her brokenness. And myself, for responding out of my own wounds and not His love.
 
😊 Okay, now I’m embarrassed. I inspected the invoice, and it looks like my mom payed for those clothes. But they look like clothes she would have ordered for herself. So I think they were mistakenly sent to my house. But my intuition is not very good today, so who knows.

Now excuse me while I go pray an Act of Contrition for thinking the worst about people…
(yes, I realize I stated in this very thread that my own mom doesn’t buy me clothes)
Oops! :hug3:

I’m reminded of a situation I got into between my parents and mother-in-law. MIL sometimes bought me clothes, a relation would take her to really cheap stores and she would get things for the girls and something for me too. Usually the outfits were horrible, but I would try to wear them at least once when she was around, even if never again. One day I was wearing a rather dowdy dress for her benefit and my parents made a surprise visit (in itself almost unheard of). My father was so shocked by what I was wearing that he insisted on giving me some money every month that I had to spend on clothes for myself :rolleyes: Lucky he forgot about it after four or five months - I had too, until I read this thread.
 
As a both a husband and a son, as one who has weathered stormy weather between wife and mother-in-law, I offer only this:

Despite what the Bible says about a husband leaving his mother and father to cleave to his wife, it can be extraordinarily difficult to find oneself between an immovable object and an irresistible force, a rock and a hard place, Scylla and Charybdis.
 
Oops! :hug3:

I’m reminded of a situation I got into between my parents and mother-in-law. MIL sometimes bought me clothes, a relation would take her to really cheap stores and she would get things for the girls and something for me too. Usually the outfits were horrible, but I would try to wear them at least once when she was around, even if never again. One day I was wearing a rather dowdy dress for her benefit and my parents made a surprise visit (in itself almost unheard of). My father was so shocked by what I was wearing that he insisted on giving me some money every month that I had to spend on clothes for myself :rolleyes: Lucky he forgot about it after four or five months - I had too, until I read this thread.
You’re fortunate your parents didn’t nominate you for “What Not To Wear!” LOL :rotfl: I wouldn’t mind getting $5000 for new clothing, but having everyone in the country see my pathetic current wardrobe would give me enough shame to last the rest of my life = I’d turn down the gift.
 
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