Issue with Ordaining Women

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Hey! Brian Holdsworth has a video about this!
Look up “why can’t the Church ordain woman Priests” on YouTube.
Definitely watch it! To sum it up, the teaching and influence brought about through motherhood is an extremely important and powerful way to influence the Church, since the Church is God’s people. Had you been raised Catholic and I asked if your mother or Priest, Bishop, or the Pope had an overall influence on your life, (provided you had what would be considered a strong Catholic family) you would probably say your mother. An important thing to keep in mind, is this: he talks about how if Jesus picking all male Apostles was sexist, and in being sexist morally wrong in any way, God Himself would have sinned. All to go along with societal standards, which in His life He defied many times. This is just a summary. I’m a young kid and not very well learned but I hope this video helps! God Bless you on your journey to Catholicism and I pray you had/are having a merry Christmas.
 
And only Aramaic speakers. And those able to walk long distances.
 
StJemma said:
especially when the number of men going into the priesthood is falling). Moreover, the likelihood of females becoming pedophiles is low, so that also would thwart the current problem in the church.
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Just a couple of notes:
  1. It’s dubious whether or not the number of men entering the priesthood is falling. You would need to be more specific about geography first - as in fewer in Europe, perhaps, but not the case in Africa - quite the opposite. In the US, there have been conflicting reports based on the timespan in question.
  2. There isn’t a current problem in the Church with pedophilia, for two reasons. First, technically speaking, it’s not an issue of pedophilia but of sexual abuse toward young people, mostly men in subordinate roles (not children so much as popular/social media would lead you to believe). {And the technicalities do not in any way downplay the gravity of these horrors.} Second, it’s not a current happening so much as a current reckoning with past events. Again, no less evil, but we can have hope that it has been and is being rooted out — and dealt with better than many sources would have you think as well, though still much to be done.
 
I think the Church will need attorneys to help preserve religious freedom. If lay oversight boards are established, Catholic attorneys will be needed to do the forensic audits of diocesan finances.
 
That is a very good point! I had also pondered gathering more information about canon law and how that works too (as I think that’s incredibly interesting to have laws that are completely religious based — since our U.S. laws are not due to a separation of church and state).
 
Thank you, this helps a lot!

And there’s nothing wrong with just “being a young kid.” Young people have wisdom and insights too. Thank you for sharing yours with me! 😁
 
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Only men may receive holy orders which can be of three steps. The priests (including bishops) act in the person of Christ (and can confect the Eucharist) but the deacons serve through liturgy, word, and charity. The ministry of the faithful is also exercised by those without holy orders, but not in the same way.

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873 The very differences which the Lord has willed to put between the members of his body serve its unity and mission. For "in the Church there is diversity of ministry but unity of mission. To the apostles and their successors Christ has entrusted the office of teaching, sanctifying and governing in his name and by his power. But the laity are made to share in the priestly, prophetical, and kingly office of Christ; they have therefore, in the Church and in the world, their own assignment in the mission of the whole People of God."387 Finally, "from both groups [hierarchy and laity] there exist Christian faithful who are consecrated to God in their own special manner and serve the salvific mission of the Church through the profession of the evangelical counsels."388
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Prior to writing Ordinatio Sacertotalis, the apostolic letter in which Pope St John Paul II stated that it was not possible to ordain women into the priesthood, He asked the then primate of the Anglican Communion what was their theological reason for the ordination of women. The answer he received was a sociological answer.
 
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Hi everyone. I am currently in RCIA, and I am coming from an Episcopal background. I am battling with the issue of women not being allowed to become deacons, priests, or bishops. I’ve read that the reason women are not allowed to be placed in these roles is because Jesus didn’t choose any women to be his apostles. Besides this, is there any other reasons for it?
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As far as I know there is no other convincing reason .

To be honest I don’t find it a very convincing reason , but I accept it in obedience to the Magisterium .
 
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HeDa said:
I would recommend you to read the document Mulieris Dignitatem - on the Dignity and Vocation of Women by John Paul II (now a saint).
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Yes! This document is outrageously empowering. It changed how I saw myself as a woman and a person.

To the OP, welcome to the church! We need people like you! ❤️
 
It is a fairly easy document to read but it is fully loaded and needs a lot of reflection to fully understand the depth of it all. It is best digested page by page.

I sensed the difference while I was preparing to received into the Catholic Church. Over all it is common in the secular society to see women (especially sexuality) and older people near death as objects/items instead of persons. Secular society would not be aware of it though until it is explained.
 
FCS said:
The reason women cant become priests is that the Church is considered to be female and priests are married to the Church (at least this is what I was taught). Females cant be married to females.

Also, only women can become nuns (men cant) and both boys and girls can Altar Serve. So I guess you can say that it e
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While I agree women can’t be priests, I feel this is overly simplistic.

Plenty of men are part of ‘the Church’ while priests are the bridegroom. So priests are married to the Church and the church is still feminine even if the church has significantly more men than women.

So one would need to justify why a church with men is feminine and that it’s a ‘straight marriage’, while the priesthood cannot still be masculine with women in it and that somehow, that marriage would be a ‘lesbian’ marriage.

Also, there’s actually a male equivalent of nuns. There’s an equivalent role/order for men when we look at women’s roles in Church, but the same can’t be said if we look at it the other way.
 
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StJemma said:
Moreover, the likelihood of females becoming pedophiles is low, so that also would thwart the current problem in the church.
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I guess you’ve missed the dozens of news stories about female teachers having sex with their underage male students, hmm?
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I am female, an attorney, an elected official, a wife, a mother, and a leader all combined into one.
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Um, yeah, that’s nice I guess, but it sounds very braggy to post this on a forum (would sound equally braggy if a man posted it), and I also can’t see how it’s relevant unless you personally were planning to become a priest.
 
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