Wasting my time? We need all the help we can get from one another. Go get em Lypher.Holy cow…Elts… I thought I was bad with like three or four posts, but gee whiz you sure know how to make pancakes… I was too exhausted to read more then the first and last couple. I apologize for wasting your time…
I agree 100% and further more I think that anyone that picks and chooses the teachings of the Church is not a whole Catholic. They have separated themselves from the Church kind of like using contraception. I take this part of the religious embrace, but I reject this other part. Smorgasborg…
Can’t even sue…
Even if they show up are they really Catholics? I mean Christ was pretty clear about those that would say “What about me” on the day of judgment but since they did not fully embrace him they would be denied… I have to get to work, and I am answering so many in a row, I don’t have time to look up the passage… I picked up Elt’s bad habit…hahahahah
I think it has also been used by others to define those within the Church, or at least those that thought they were in the Church that did not follow Church teaching.I didn’t come up with the definition. I suppose though a non Catholic who protests is why many call someone that…
The Church has grown much more tolerant over the years with regards to accepting dissension. I am not sure just how healthy this practice is as core beliefs seem to be willy nilly applied so we have individual members showing up to Mass each going to their own internal worship service. I think many have never even read any of the Church’s teachings.
I am pretty sure that Martin Luther did not want to form his own Church. He never wanted a “Lutheran” church. He believed himself to be a Catholic during his dissension even though the Catholic Church had already named him an outsider.
Do not live in a theocracy??? No one is forcing you to be Catholic! Is our Faith something we put on once a week and then discard as soon as we walk out of Church Sunday?
So you are rejecting the teachings of the Church. You seem to believe that being Catholic is nothing more than being baptized and then going on our merry way-rejecting anything the Church teahces that interferes with the way we want to live. No big deal-after all no matter how much we disent we are still catholic-right?
I think people don’t understand that words (and actions) mean things.
I admit I dissent. You said it would be better off to join another religion even though the Church says someone is a member of the Church which no act can take way. You can reread who the Church considers Catholic. Also it seems odd to be telling someone to join another religion if they “could not be saved” by not remaining. Peace.
Not a whole Catholic? Well at least you admit a Catholic. That’s a start!I agree 100% and further more I think that anyone that picks and chooses the teachings of the Church is not a whole Catholic. They have separated themselves from the Church kind of like using contraception. I take this part of the religious embrace, but I reject this other part. Smorgasborg…
Peace.No, you’re not. Listen to Fr. Corapi. You continue to be Catholic. You may not be a fully practicing Catholic, a “faithful” Catholic, you may be a fallen-away Catholic, a lapsed Catholic, and lots of other things, but your Catholic identity is not stolen from you (or re-labeled by CAF posters who have reached sainthood) unless by a deliberate formal act you renounce your Catholic identity and, for example, induct yourself into an opposing tradition – such as another religion.
Read "what about me’ in Matt 25:35-45. I don’t see Christ mentioning the word “abortion”. Peace.
So in your mind beingh a member opf a Church means you dont have to follow it’s teachings?
You do realize an excommunicated Catholic is still a Catholic, don’t you? Supposedly barred from the Sacraments, can’t participate in ministries but still a Catholic. Peace.
Well in a way, yes they are. The Church says I am Catholic no matter what. But I don’t believe we should force our Catholic beliefs on an issue like abortion thru secular law where people have varying beliefs on what occurs @ conception whether we agree with them or not. We just have a difference of opinion on the mechanism. Though btw we agree on what occurs @ conception. I just believe if women are going to have abortions, better safe and legal rather than in back alleys but rare. And in the meantime we should focus on programs which support women financially etc which might indeed keep them rare.
Your argument on who is a Catholic is not with me but with the Church. Peace.
You are playing a semantics game to try and derailm the discussion by changing the topic from Church Teaching on abotyion to “who is a Catholic” Start another thread if that is what you want to discuss. I know youn would much prefer that discussion than trying to rationlize rejecting Church teaching on abortion.
It’s not in my mind. It’s in Church documents. And you apparently didn’t read the verses I suggested to you where Christ tells us what must be done for righteousness. That is how my faith defines my politics.
Ok but no I do not want to derail. What I would prefer is that Catholics on CAF admitted who the Church calls Catholic. I am not the one who brought up that a Catholic can not vote for a candidate who is pro choice. Semantics come into play when people don’t recognize who is Catholic according to the Catholic Church. God bless you and peace.
