It seems that many protestant churches do not cover.........

[CatholicKnight3]

The entire bible. Most of them do not have daily services. Many of them are limited to a Wednesday, Friday and/or Sunday. That would make it rather impossible to cover the entire bible. To say nothing of never covering the 7 OT books of the deuterocanonicals.

The fact is the Catholic Church covers the entire bible over a 3 year span. Approximately 3 years. Daily mass, there are scriptural readings that relate to one another.

We all agree (I think we all agree) the the NT is contained in the OT and the OT is revealed in the NT. So, it is rather crucial how we tie the readings in the Gospel and the letters of the NT and see how they relate to the OT. When we do not do this, then I believe we are cheated in some ways.

Also, the fact that the entire Catholic Church around the world read the same readings every day. You know, as ONE BODY. I am not sure why that would not be crucial.

So, the question is do protestant churches cover the WHOLE bible? If so, how long does it take to cover the entire bible? I know protestants have access to their own bible now. How about the 96% of Christians that did not have access to education. Most of the poor could were not allowed to read or write. There were not pocket bibles really until the 20th century. The printing press was not invented till the 1400s.

So, what did the early Christians go by, if they did not have access to their own bibles for 1600 years? What about the vast majority that did not read or write?

 

[CatholicKnight3]

Here is todays scriptural readings for example. Our daily bread. That is in the prayer right? Our daily bread?

Reading 1 ACTS 15:1-2, 22-29

Some who had come down from Judea were instructing the brothers,
“Unless you are circumcised according to the Mosaic practice,
you cannot be saved.”
Because there arose no little dissension and debate
by Paul and Barnabas with them,
it was decided that Paul, Barnabas, and some of the others
should go up to Jerusalem to the apostles and elders
about this question.

The apostles and elders, in agreement with the whole church,
decided to choose representatives
and to send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas.
The ones chosen were Judas, who was called Barsabbas,
and Silas, leaders among the brothers.
This is the letter delivered by them:

“The apostles and the elders, your brothers,
to the brothers in Antioch, Syria, and Cilicia
of Gentile origin: greetings.
Since we have heard that some of our number
who went out without any mandate from us
have upset you with their teachings
and disturbed your peace of mind,
we have with one accord decided to choose representatives
and to send them to you along with our beloved Barnabas and Paul,
who have dedicated their lives to the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.
So we are sending Judas and Silas
who will also convey this same message by word of mouth:
‘It is the decision of the Holy Spirit and of us
not to place on you any burden beyond these necessities,
namely, to abstain from meat sacrificed to idols,
from blood, from meats of strangled animals,
and from unlawful marriage.
If you keep free of these,
you will be doing what is right. Farewell.’”

Responsorial Psalm PS 67:2-3, 5, 6, 8

R. (4) O God, let all the nations praise you!
or:
R. Alleluia.
May God have pity on us and bless us;
may he let his face shine upon us.
So may your way be known upon earth;
among all nations, your salvation.
R. O God, let all the nations praise you!
or:
R. Alleluia.
May the nations be glad and exult
because you rule the peoples in equity;
the nations on the earth you guide.
R. O God, let all the nations praise you!
or:
R. Alleluia.
May the peoples praise you, O God;
may all the peoples praise you!
May God bless us,
and may all the ends of the earth fear him!
R. O God, let all the nations praise you!

Reading 2 REV 21:10-14, 22-23

The angel took me in spirit to a great, high mountain
and showed me the holy city Jerusalem
coming down out of heaven from God.
It gleamed with the splendor of God.
Its radiance was like that of a precious stone,
like jasper, clear as crystal.
It had a massive, high wall,
with twelve gates where twelve angels were stationed
and on which names were inscribed,
the names of the twelve tribes of the Israelites.
There were three gates facing east,
three north, three south, and three west.
The wall of the city had twelve courses of stones as its foundation,
on which were inscribed the twelve names
of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

I saw no temple in the city
for its temple is the Lord God almighty and the Lamb.
The city had no need of sun or moon to shine on it,
for the glory of God gave it light,
and its lamp was the Lamb.

Gospel JN 14:23-29

Jesus said to his disciples:
“Whoever loves me will keep my word,
and my Father will love him,
and we will come to him and make our dwelling with him.
Whoever does not love me does not keep my words;
yet the word you hear is not mine
but that of the Father who sent me.

“I have told you this while I am with you.
The Advocate, the Holy Spirit,
whom the Father will send in my name,
will teach you everything
and remind you of all that I told you.
Peace I leave with you; my peace I give to you.
Not as the world gives do I give it to you.
Do not let your hearts be troubled or afraid.
You heard me tell you,
‘I am going away and I will come back to you.’
If you loved me,
you would rejoice that I am going to the Father;
for the Father is greater than I.
And now I have told you this before it happens,
so that when it happens you may believe.”

 

[tarboy]

The entire bible. Most of them do not have daily services. Many of them are limited to a Wednesday, Friday and/or Sunday. That would make it rather impossible to cover the entire bible. To say nothing of never covering the 7 OT books of the deuterocanonicals.

The fact is the Catholic Church covers the entire bible over a 3 year span. Approximately 3 years.

CatholicKnight, your statement of fact is not accurate.

Maybe 14% of the OT and 72% of the NT are in the Lectionary, if you attended every day.
A regular Catholic will get 4% of OT and 41% of NT by attending Sundays and major Feasts.
catholic-resources.org/Lectionary/Statistics.htm

Thus, it’s essential for Catholics to read and study their bible and catechism outside of mass. I believe most Protestant churches place a greater emphasis on reading the bible outside of mass.

 

[CatholicKnight3]

CatholicKnight, your statement of fact is not accurate.

Maybe 14% of the OT and 72% of the NT are in the Lectionary, if you attended every day.
A regular Catholic will get 4% of OT and 41% of NT by attending Sundays and major Feasts.
catholic-resources.org/Lectionary/Statistics.htm

Thus, it’s essential for Catholics to read and study their bible and catechism outside of mass. I believe most Protestant churches place a greater emphasis on reading the bible outside of mass.

True enough. However, from what I have read, the entire bible is covered around every 3 years or so.

Is that true?

 

[kimg901]

True enough. However, from what I have read, the entire bible is covered around every 3 years or so.

Is that true?

It is true. We have A, B and C years which runs every 3 years.
Year A: 1987, 1990, 1993, 1996, 1999, 2002, 2005, 2008, 2011 & 2014 (Matthew)
Year B: 1988, 1991, 1994, 1997, 2000, 2003, 2006, 2009, 2012 & 2015 (Mark)
Year C: 1989, 1992, 1995, 1998, 2001, 2004, 2007, 2010, 2013 & 2016 (Luke)

Sunday Mass & Days of Holy Obligation.

 

[bsroufek]

True enough. However, from what I have read, the entire bible is covered around every 3 years or so.

Is that true?

If you go only on weekends, it takes about 3 years to cover the Bible.
If you go daily, it takes about 1 year to cover the Bible.

That’s what I’m told.

 

[tarboy]

True enough. However, from what I have read, the entire bible is covered around every 3 years or so.

Is that true?

NO it’s not true,
I just gave you the facts on what is covered during the 3 year cycle, along with a source link.
Please take the time to read a sincere response, before replying.

 

[kimg901]

NO it’s not true,
I just gave you the facts on what is covered during the 3 year cycle, along with a source link.
Please take the time to read a sincere response, before replying.

It would take 9 years I think… I just got out my NAB and at the end of the Bible it shows all 3 years begining with the 1st OT reading then the 2nd reading from the NT then on to the Gospel reading.

 

[chero23]

NO it’s not true,
I just gave you the facts on what is covered during the 3 year cycle, along with a source link.
Please take the time to read a sincere response, before replying.

But what their also trying to prove to you is that Protestants, take a verse here and a verse there and tell you, you see you see. But the context is not there.

Ill give you an example, my gf told me (she is not Catholic, she has never been) she says you guys worship statues. She then procedeed to tell me by memory what Exodus 20 states. So we have been reading the Bible from beginning to end. We got to Exodus and read that about the 10 commandments, we then read were God says in Exodus, that he wants a place built were he wants to live. I believe in Chapter 25 as he is giving directions in how he wants it built he says I want 2 angels next to my place were i live.

I told my gf is God confused. You told me that God does not want statues or images that is from the sky, and land, but here he wants 2 statues. Is he confused, she said no. I told her the problem that you guys have is that you take passages out of context.

 

[CatholicKnight3]

NO it’s not true,
I just gave you the facts on what is covered during the 3 year cycle, along with a source link.
Please take the time to read a sincere response, before replying.

I will no longer respond to your arrogant self righteousness.

Not only are you condescending, presumptuous and very arrogant, you are also wrong.

Do not respond to me until you find a more humble manner in which to address me. If you do not, then do not respond to me.

It truly amazes me how arrogant people can get when they dress themselves in their own arrogant self righteousness.

 

[bsroufek]

CatholicKnight, your statement of fact is not accurate.

Maybe 14% of the OT and 72% of the NT are in the Lectionary, if you attended every day.
A regular Catholic will get 4% of OT and 41% of NT by attending Sundays and major Feasts.

You don’t need to cover all the geneologies in the OT and every detail in the NT to cover the Bible. We basically cover the Bible in 3 years on Sundays only or in 1 year for daily attendance.

No, not EVERY sentence but the essential Church-chosen portions of the Bible are covered as stated.

 

[kimg901]

NO it’s not true,
I just gave you the facts on what is covered during the 3 year cycle, along with a source link.
Please take the time to read a sincere response, before replying.

Why are you screaming for? You seem a little touchy just like on another thread that has been deleted. Have a Coke and a and chill.

 

[tarboy]

If you go only on weekends, it takes about 3 years to cover the Bible.
If you go daily, it takes about 1 year to cover the Bible.

That’s what I’m told.

It would take 9 years I think… I just got out my NAB and at the end of the Bible it shows all 3 years begining with the 1st OT reading then the 2nd reading from the NT then on to the Gospel reading.

Kim & bsreoufek,
NO, the Mass does not cover the whole bible,
It doesn’t matter how many years you attend every single daily mass.
You just repeat but don’t add missing scripture.

Post Vatican II we get 14% of Old Testament and 72% of New Testament read during Mass.
You can see the detail for each book at below link.
catholic-resources.org/Lectionary/Statistics.htm

Please read the detail here: catholic-resources.org/Lectionary/Statistics.htm

 

[kimg901]

Kim & bsreoufek,
NO, the Mass does not cover the whole bible,
It doesn’t matter how many years you attend every single daily mass.
You just repeat but don’t add missing scripture.

Post Vatican II we get 14% of Old Testament and 72% of New Testament read during Mass.
You can see the detail for each book at below link.
catholic-resources.org/Lectionary/Statistics.htm

Please read the detail here: catholic-resources.org/Lectionary/Statistics.htm

I will agree with you on this one. I confused myself when typing all those numbers. You are correct, the whole Bible is not covered.

 

[CatholicKnight3]

But what their also trying to prove to you is that Protestants, take a verse here and a verse there and tell you, you see you see. But the context is not there.

Ill give you an example, my gf told me (she is not Catholic, she has never been) she says you guys worship statues. She then procedeed to tell me by memory what Exodus 20 states. So we have been reading the Bible from beginning to end. We got to Exodus and read that about the 10 commandments, we then read were God says in Exodus, that he wants a place built were he wants to live. I believe in Chapter 25 as he is giving directions in how he wants it built he says I want 2 angels next to my place were i live.

I told my gf is God confused. You told me that God does not want statues or images that is from the sky, and land, but here he wants 2 statues. Is he confused, she said no. I told her the problem that you guys have is that you take passages out of context.

Yes, this is pretty much my point. It seems they know what they know, but their institutions do not seem to cover the entire bible. Meaning, if we are going to take one writing from scripture, shouldn’t we have some context?

Often times we do get readings from the OT, and we see how it is related to a reading in the NT. All readings outside of the Gospel is related the daily Gospel reading. True?

To me this is essential. If we relate to a feast, it seems we get a more “square meal” if you will. Where we would be neglected of vital contextual sricipture that relates to the gospel.

 

[tarboy]

I will no longer respond to your arrogant self righteousness.

Not only are you condescending, presumptuous and very arrogant, you are also wrong.

Do not respond to me until you find a more humble manner in which to address me. If you do not, then do not respond to me.

It truly amazes me how arrogant people can get when they dress themselves in their own arrogant self righteousness.

Who is self righteous?
I replied with sincerity and supported my point with valid resources.
You have replied with nothing that supports your claim the lectionary covers the whole bible.
All you are doing is spreading a falsehood that only does Catholics harm, which is why I must correct you.

 

[triumphguy]

I will no longer respond to your arrogant self righteousness.

Not only are you condescending, presumptuous and very arrogant, you are also wrong.

Do not respond to me until you find a more humble manner in which to address me. If you do not, then do not respond to me.

It truly amazes me how arrogant people can get when they dress themselves in their own arrogant self righteousness.

He’s right. And he posted a link to prove it.

Getting strident doesn’t make you right.

 

[bsroufek]

He’s right. And he posted a link to prove it.

He is legalistically correct that not every geneology in the OT and every sentence in the NT
is covered, but ALL of the essential passages in the Bible are covered.

You’re missing the point: the bible is covered.

 

[triumphguy]

He is legalistically correct that not every geneology in the OT and every sentence in the NT
is covered, but ALL of the essential passages in the Bible are covered.

You’re missing the point: the bible is covered.

If 14% is covered then yes

 

[bsroufek]

If 14% is covered then yes

I don’t know if you have read the OT, but it is full of long geneologies and lists which contribute nothing to spiritual learning (even St. Paul talked about “endless geneologies”),
so what I’m saying is that the Bible is read in its ESSENTIAL entirety, minus some details which are impossible to remember anyway.

The Bible is covered in 3 years on Sundays, 1 year on Daily attendance.