Italian nun covers 'Like a Virgin'

[Bruised_Reed]

When I saw her first appear walking down that lane dressed in habit and veil, I thought it was a satire. But no. Very strange and unimpressive bar the gawking value. She would do much better to cover the hymns I think.

I wasn’t impressed as much as I was moved. I’ve known the lyrics for about 30 years and knew they could be understood differently than Madonna’s videos or performances. If it helps, close your eyes.

How many views do you think it would have gotten if she sang a hymn?

 

[LongingSoul]

I wasn’t impressed as much as I was moved. I’ve known the lyrics for about 30 years and knew they could be understood differently than Madonna’s videos or performances. If it helps, close your eyes.

How many views do you think it would have gotten if she sang a hymn?

I’m the first to let my soul be touched by the spiritual in romantic songs. I’d count U2, The Waterboys and Cat Stevens among lyricists that can transcend the merely human by their poetic words and imagery. But Madonna?? No way. She misses the mark altogether and it was only that the original song used a religious setting to shoot video, that connects it in any way to religious sentiment in my opinion. “Like a virgin touched for the very first time” does not in any way convey the holy love of a bride of Christ in my humble opinion. :hypno:

 

[Bruised_Reed]

I’m the first to let my soul be touched by the spiritual in romantic songs. I’d count U2, The Waterboys and Cat Stevens among lyricists that can transcend the merely human by their poetic words and imagery. But Madonna?? No way. She misses the mark altogether and it was only that the original song used a religious setting to shoot video, that connects it in any way to religious sentiment in my opinion. “Like a virgin touched for the very first time” does not in any way convey the holy love of a bride of Christ in my humble opinion. :hypno:

Where’s the religious setting? She’s dancing on a gondola and walking around in a old building (that isn’t a church; there aren’t any religious objects like statues or stained glass of saints).

Touched for the very first time? After the first Charismatic Mass I went to we were invited forward to be prayed over. I had sat in the back so I could bolt if anything weird went on. The priest prayed over each of us individually and many (including children) were resting in the Spirit and even though I knew what that was about I kept praying, “please, God, don’t let me go down.” When the priest got to me I swear he chuckled softly like he knew what I was thinking and when he prayed over me. I felt like my heart was hugged. Just my heart. I’ve experienced palpitations, arrhythmia which are unpleasant and scary, but this sensation, experienced this one time, was gentle, peaceful, intimate, but not invasive. The Holy Spirit touched my heart for the very first time. Hearts became a common theme during my conversion to embracing the faith I was baptized into. At a grotto outside a church with perpetual adoration I told the Blessed Mother I was sorry I didn’t have anything to give her (there were flowers, rosaries, and candles around the statue). I heard her tell me, “All I want is your heart.” I consecrated my heart to Mary once I knew about consecration to her Immaculate Heart. That is my context. That is what I hear and what it reminds me of. I got choked up when she sang that because of that context.

Madonna may have sexualized a song even she says is about love but Sister Cristina and I don’t see it as being about sex. And again, Madonna didn’t write the song and Madonna is her real name; some people don’t know that.

 

[livingwordunity]

The song has nothing to do with the Blessed Mother.

Although Madonna is the name she was given at birth she uses it to mock the Virgin Mary and the Catholic faith. We are talking about the same popular singer who mocked the crucifixion on stage in one of her concerts by presenting herself on a cross prop while wearing lingerie.

 

[Bruised_Reed]

Although Madonna is the name she was given at birth she uses it to mock the Virgin Mary and the Catholic faith. We are talking about the same popular singer who mocked the crucifixion on stage in one of her concerts by presenting herself on a cross prop while wearing lingerie.

I disagree. A woman with the name Madonna uses Catholic imagery and symbolism to provoke.

She wasn’t named after the Blessed Mother either. Where/when exactly has Madonna the singer mocked the BVM?

 

[Beautiful]

Sheesh, you guys ever read Song of Songs? If that can be in the Bible I don’t see why this song can’t be re-interpreted.

Question: Then why not translate Song of Songs into music?

Question: Why zero in on THAT pop song by THAT musician?

Answering: Attention?

 

[livingwordunity]

I disagree. A woman with the name Madonna uses Catholic imagery and symbolism to provoke.

Finish the sentence please. Provoke what?

She wasn’t named after the Blessed Mother either.

She came from an Italian Catholic family, and the Madonna is one of the titles for the Virgin Mary. Therefore, she was named after the Virgin Mary.

Where/when exactly has Madonna the singer mocked the BVM?

She did it with the sexual song “Like a Virgin” and with the sexual video that accompanied it.

 

[Beautiful]

What if?

Fr. Stan sang

I Was Made for Loving You by KISS

By the way

Fr. Stan is

 

[Bruised_Reed]

Finish the sentence please. Provoke what?

A reaction, most likely from the part of religion she thought was oppressive. She like some things about Catholicism but not all.

She came from an Italian Catholic family, and the Madonna is one of the titles for the Virgin Mary. Therefore, she was named after the Virgin Mary.

Possibly. But I know that she was named for her own mother whose name was Madonna which means “my lady”. I know a Lutheran woman named Madonna; not Catholic, not Italian but perhaps just a pretty name.

She did it with the sexual song “Like a Virgin” and with the sexual video that accompanied it.

If she chose her name herself, if it was a stage name, I’d be more inclined to think of it as mocking, but Madonna is her name.

The song lyrics aren’t sexual but Madonna styled her performance as sexual. If she wanted to she could sing a sexy arrangement of Amazing Grace and writhe around on a gondola and that wouldn’t make Amazing Grace a sexual song.

 

[livingwordunity]

Possibly. But I know that she was named for her own mother whose name was Madonna which means “my lady”. I know a Lutheran woman named Madonna; not Catholic, not Italian but perhaps just a pretty name.

She comes from a Catholic family which means that if her mother was named after the Virgin Mary then she was, too. There is no such thing as a Catholic family that would name their daughter Mary or Madonna without having the Virgin Mary in mind. Since we know that the pop singer Madonna has publicly rejected her faith, if she would have had a daughter and chose that name for her then one could reasonably argue that she was naming her daughter after herself and not after the Virgin Mary. But it’s not reasonable to assume that a Catholic family would name their daughter a name that is a title of the Virgin Mary without being aware of it or while mentally rejecting the association.

 

[NoMondays]

Beautiful cinematography in the video, I like it. Good for you Sister! Bless you!

 

[Bruised_Reed]

She comes from a Catholic family which means that if her mother was named after the Virgin Mary then she was, too. There is no such thing as a Catholic family that would name their daughter Mary or Madonna without having the Virgin Mary in mind. Since we know that the pop singer Madonna has publicly rejected her faith, if she would have had a daughter and chose that name for her then one could reasonably argue that she was naming her daughter after herself and not after the Virgin Mary. But it’s not reasonable to assume that a Catholic family would name their daughter a name that is a title of the Virgin Mary without being aware of it or while mentally rejecting the association.

Fiiiiiine, she’s named after the BVM (BTW, I’m named after saints, too but I wouldn’t have those names if they weren’t also my grandmothers’ names).That doesn’t make the point that she is mocking the BVM by singing a sexy song. Would I be mocking St. Therese if I did a sexy version of “Like a Virgin” or “Amazing Grace?” no, I wouldn’t.

She rejected some parts of her faith but not all. Her daughter’s name is Lourdes.

Instead of lambasting Madonna how about we imagine she or her daughter were reading this and how it would be received.

 

[Beautiful]

Instead of lambasting Madonna how about we imagine she or her daughter were reading this and how it would be received.

Good thought

The bottom line is that the material girl very publicly sold out for money, power and adoring fans of evil. I have not seen or heard any public retraction from her.

 

[Bruised_Reed]

Good thought

The bottom line is that the material girl very publicly sold out for money, power and adoring fans of evil. I have not seen or heard any public retraction from her.

I thought one had to believe in something or be invested in it first, to sell out. What value of hers did she betray to reach her goals?

ETA: I mean, I would be selling out if I did what she did because I follow church teaching (even though I struggle with some teachings) and have had experiences that make it difficult for me to leave it behind even when I wanted to.

 

[Beautiful]

I thought one had to believe in something or be invested in it first, to sell out. What value of hers did she betray to reach her goals?

ETA: I mean, I would be selling out if I did what she did because I follow church teaching (even though I struggle with some teachings) and have had experiences that make it difficult for me to leave it behind even when I wanted to.

Upon receiving confirmation in 1966, she adopted Veronica as an additional confirmation name.

From Wikepedia

What does Confirmation mean to you?

And if I posted pictures of how the material girl has sold out, I would be censored here.

 

[Bruised_Reed]

From Wikepedia

What does Confirmation mean to you?

And if I posted pictures of how the material girl has sold out, I would be censored here.

She was 8 in 1966.

 

[Beautiful]

Another fad like “Dominique.”

youtube.com/watch?v=EO7cD6qmydo

For those that don’t know.

Read on wikipedia

 

[Beautiful]

She was 8 in 1966.

You have only my word on this.

In my office …as I speak to you… I have a single photo of my own mother (passed now) standing with her confirmation sponsor on that very special day when she was eight years old.

She lived a very long time and was faithful to the Church …always.

 

[Bruised_Reed]

You have only my word on this.

In my office …as I speak to you… I have a single photo of my own mother (passed now) standing with her confirmation sponsor on that very special day when she was eight years old.

She lived a very long time and was faithful to the Church …always.

And I have a vague recollection of my confirmation class picture and note how many I never saw in church and how few are not practicing their faith now. We were confirmed as teenagers.

This would probably be a good time to visit the thread about young people leaving the church. The main difference is that Madonna has more money and influence than most of us will ever dream of. I pray for her conversion and I hope there is a way that she could come back to the faith without selling out the other way and becoming a too-quiet, jumper wearing, modestybot.

 

[1newcatholic]

I’m the first to let my soul be touched by the spiritual in romantic songs. I’d count U2, The Waterboys and Cat Stevens among lyricists that can transcend the merely human by their poetic words and imagery. But Madonna?? No way. She misses the mark altogether and it was only that the original song used a religious setting to shoot video, that connects it in any way to religious sentiment in my opinion. “Like a virgin touched for the very first time” does not in any way convey the holy love of a bride of Christ in my humble opinion. :hypno:

You might benefit from reading some Theresa of Avila:

Wikipedia: The kernel of Teresa’s mystical thought throughout all her writings is the ascent of the soul in four stages (The Autobiography Chs. 10-22):

The first, or “mental prayer”, is that of devout contemplation or concentration, the withdrawal of the soul from without and especially the devout observance of the passion of Christ and penitence (Autobiography 11.20).

The second is the “prayer of quiet”, in which at least the human will is lost in that of God by virtue of a charismatic, supernatural state given by God, while the other faculties, such as memory, reason, and imagination, are not yet secure from worldly distraction. While a partial distraction is due to outer performances such as repetition of prayers and writing down spiritual things, yet the prevailing state is one of quietude (Autobiography 14.1).

The “devotion of union” is not only a supernatural but an essentially ecstatic state. Here there is also an absorption of the reason in God, and only the memory and imagination are left to ramble. This state is characterized by a blissful peace, a sweet slumber of at least the higher soul faculties, or a conscious rapture in the love of God.

The fourth is the “devotion of ecstasy or rapture,” a passive state, in which the feeling of being in the body disappears (2 Corinthians 12:2-3). Sense activity ceases; memory and imagination are also absorbed in God or intoxicated. Body and spirit are in the throes of a sweet, happy pain, alternating between a fearful fiery glow, a complete impotence and unconsciousness, and a spell of strangulation, sometimes by such an ecstatic flight that the body is literally lifted into space. This after half an hour is followed by a reactionary relaxation of a few hours in a swoon-like weakness, attended by a negation of all the faculties in the union with God. The subject awakens From this in tears; it is the climax of mystical experience, producing a trance. Indeed, she was said to have been observed levitating during Mass on more than one occasion.

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