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Hello It has been a long time since I have been on. For one reason I am taking care of my recovering Mother and living in South Dakota (back in Sioux Falls Diocese) second reason is this,

I have lost interest in talking about the church lately. I have come to grips that priesthood is obviously not my call and so I officially end my discernment. If God wants me he knows where to find me. I feel hurt and I feel like I was played and I feel like a fool. I think the church needs to find an alternative to the vocations director idea. I have no idea how many wonderful gifts God sent to the church that were turned away from “opinions” I can’t help but to get a little hot under my collar everytime I hear “please pray for more vocations” No Pray for a change in how the Church handles gifts God sends her. Am I upset and hurt?? am I dissappointed in the Church?? you have no idea. Will I ever leave her?? Absolutly not. I have a lot of reasons to but I never could leave the true Church the only Church. But I am very angry with her. It will takes years for me to forgive her. Pray for me. God Bless Scoob.
 
Praying for you. Hang in there. There are supportive people here that will listen. I too am in the boat of caring for my mother. She happens to be physically disabled and a widow. That has no bearing on any possible vocation that I may have, though.

Do mind sharing what happened? Reading in between the lines, it seems to me that you were **told **that the priesthood was not your calling or put off by your vocations director in some fashion.

You are in my prayers.
 
Perhaps you are to first care for your house, then become such, either way- you have a vocation, whatever He desire, keep praying 🙂

and forgive the church, realize people inside have choice, perhaps be angry with them, but not mother church :):cool:
 
Sometimes God’s answer is “no”, or “not yet”. Remember that vocations are callings from God, and not necessarily our desires.

Trust God that the vocation directors advice is God’s will, even though it may not be to your liking. If it is NOT God’s will, He will soon be calling! And you will gain grace by practicing humility!

And not trying to judge you or make assumptions, but pray for God’s help in controlling your anger, especially towards the Church. That cannot be a good thing. Some of the observations you make lead me to think that might be a concern. If I am wrong, I am sorry for making that assumption.

God bless you in your search for your vocation, whatever it may be.
 
Well here is my problem I asked God to help me find a wife so I can have a family. I never met Mrs Right. I am celebate and I am practicing celebacy and I thought I was being called to priesthood. I am upset about it and I can’t help how I feel. I don’t want to feel the way I do towards the church, I love her dearly but I am still upset with her. Trying to get over all this but as I stated earlier it isn’t going to be a 10 minute thing. Scoob.
 
Well here is my problem I asked God to help me find a wife so I can have a family. I never met Mrs Right. I am celebate and I am practicing celebacy and I thought I was being called to priesthood. I am upset about it and I can’t help how I feel. I don’t want to feel the way I do towards the church, I love her dearly but I am still upset with her. Trying to get over all this but as I stated earlier it isn’t going to be a 10 minute thing. Scoob.
If you are alive, then there is time still to meet “Mrs. Right” on God’s time.🙂

Annie
 
I totally agree. Just hope his time is before people start saying “Oh what lovely grand children you have” or is this you second wife??? I don’t know I am just upset and it is just going to take a longtime to heal. I hope God has something in store for me who knows. I need all the prayers I can get. Frankly I am ready to go to heaven but again on his time. I love all of you and this forum so dearly and thank you for all the prayers God bless Scoob.
 
I feel hurt and I feel like I was played and I feel like a fool. I think the church needs to find an alternative to the vocations director idea. I have no idea how many wonderful gifts God sent to the church that were turned away from “opinions”
It is still not clear to me what kind of problem you had with your Vocations Director and/or the Church. Trying to read between the lines, it appears that maybe he thought that you were not really being called for the priesthood or that you were not ready or something along those lines. If I am off, please forgive me, but you have not provided much information other than the fact that you are “upset”, “hurt”, “disappointed”, and “angry”.
If God wants me he knows where to find me.
I do not mean to judge you since I am not sure what really happened or what you are going through. But when I read this comment I cannot help to think that perhaps you are not ready for the priesthood right now. I am not saying, by any means, that it is not your calling or vocation because only God knows that. For that reason you must have faith; if it is God’s will, the Spirit will find a way to make it happen.
Well here is my problem I asked God to help me find a wife so I can have a family. I never met Mrs Right. I am celebate and I am practicing celebacy and I thought I was being called to priesthood. I am upset about it and I can’t help how I feel.
Forgive me for saying, but from this statement it seems that your first desire was to “find a wife” and “have a family”. Since you did not find “Mrs Right”, you opted for the priesthood. If this is the case, I cannot help but wonder if the priesthood is your true vocation. Although it is completely normal to experience doubts during the vocation discernment process, answering the “call” to priesthood is not about other plans (i.e. a “wife” and “family”) falling thru. Again, forgive me if this is not the case, but that is basically what can be implied by your remarks.
Just hope his time is before people start saying “Oh what lovely grand children you have” or is this you second wife??? I don’t know I am just upset and it is just going to take a longtime to heal.
I realize you are upset, but comments like this make me wonder if you are even ready for marriage. When God calls He does so on His time, not ours. If you are called to marriage, you will eventually find not “Mrs Right” (there is no such thing), but the right woman for you. If you are called to the priesthood, God will find a way to make it happen. But you have to have patience and faith.
But I am very angry with her. It will takes years for me to forgive her.
Who are you really angry at; the Vocations Director, the Church, or God? Here you said you were angry at the Church, but other comments imply that you are a little upset or disappointed with God as well. If this is not correct, please forgive me, but comments like “he knows where to find me” lead me to believe that. Others such as “I hope God has something in store for me who knows”, tell me your faith is not very strong.

As I said before, I am not judging you, but merely pointing out that perhaps your Vocations Director saw something in you that you were unable to see due to your strong desire to explore the priesthood. Either way, it seems to me that the Church as a whole did not do anything to you and you have no reasons to be mad at her. If you do not agree with your Vocations Director, there are other means to deal with that (e.g. find another diocese or religious congregation). However, I have a feeling that the issue is much deeper than that.
Frankly I am ready to go to heaven but again on his time.
It seems to me that you are almost ready to give up. As a priest or husband and father you would most certainly face many challenges; many much bigger than this one. What would you do then? Would you have trouble forgiving your bishop or wife or children if they disappoint you? Would you lose your faith in God when trouble arises, as it usually does?

I do not mean to be so bold or forward with you since I obviously do not know you. But I think that in addition to prayers and support, someone maybe needs to put things into perspective for you. If I was not supposed to be that person, then I apologize and wish you the best on your journey.

There is one thing I am certain of; God always takes care of things, just not always when we want or the way we want, but according to His will and what is really best for us. Hang in there.
 
I’ve been turned away from a vocation likewise, many times, some for reasons I accept and understand, others for reasons I also accept, but do not agree with. Telling my story would take a long time. I’ll forgo that and just get to the point.

Jesus Himself said that many were called and few are chosen, and that is how I interpret my own vocation. Yes, I was called. However, I was not chosen by those in authority.

I can ask myself what the motive was for my vocation. Did I pursue the priesthood or religious life because I loved God, and because I loved other people? If so, then the very foundation of that vocation is love, and it is love which I am called to “do.” I can love as a priest. I can love as a layman.

I can sympathize with you about hearing people interceding for more vocations, knowing full well that you are willing to go. But ultimately, if I love the Body of Christ, then I will seek the highest good of the Body of Christ.

And what if my being a priest is NOT the highest good for the Body of Christ? What if I am called to serve in another capacity? Yes, it does seem unfair, but I don’t believe it’s a matter of being ignored or overlooked. I think it’s a matter of being tried. After all, the Bride belongs to Jesus. How much do you love Jesus? How much do you love His bride? Does love keep a record of wrongs? God looks at our hearts. We are called to love. Ultimately, a vocation is a call to love. You have been turned away. Do you continue to love? Do you see the test which you are undergoing? A test shows us how strong our love really is. Ultimately, I have not been permitted to pursue the priesthood but I can still earnestly seek ways to serve the Bride of Christ, for love of Christ. Ultimately, a vocation is not to the priesthood, nor to religious life. A vocation is a call to love ever more deeply. And that is a call that we all can unequivocably answer, without exception.

Look to your own heart? Is God pleased with it?

I will pray for you.
 
Hello. No one has not offended me nor do I feel judged. Some very good points.
However the problems I went through were not fun nor easy to accept. As far as marriage I am in my 30s and I never had a girlfriend that I fell madly in love with. I don’t know what it feels like to fall in love with someone.I do however know what it felt like to fall in love with the church and I can’t help but feel betrayed. I practice and beleive in all the church’s teachings. Never finding someone, I started to think that maybe Jesus was saving me for his Bride. Apperently not. I had one vocations director basically tell me that i am not smart enough to be a priest. Of course I mastered an instrument I know three trades, I ride Grand Prix Dressage, I studied voice and I also know how to fix anything that needs fixing. I would like to think that I have some intellect. and some talent. He was bragging to me that he is accepting an electrical engineer. He has a degree that has NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH GOD… yet he was ushered in. I don’t have a 4 year degree, I am tossed aside. Personally I feel that it is bull that we need a degree to be accepted, it is prejudice and many people I am sure were not accepted that could have been awsome. I feel that you are right I am not called to priesthood. But as I ahve stated, this will not be a two day OK now I am over it thing. When you see a girl you like and get dumped? how does that make you feel??? like your heart was ripped out, like you are tanted goods. I am ok I will live just hurt and I can’t again help how I feel. I obviously am not called that is surely apparent. I did my part I tried I was willing to give up my collections and sell my stuff and get ready to embark on the long journey to becomming a priest, couldn’t even get to first base. I couldn’t even get a second meeting with anyone. So I will feel what I feel and I will not be closed mouth at what I feel, making everyone requiring a 4 year degree is a blanket deal as to which shouldn’t apply to eveyone, most people that have lived a long time dealing with life, which in it’s own right should be considered a master’s , should have other options. I may be wrong but what can I say it sucks. just sucks. Now I ask all of you to pray for me, please. God Bless Scoob.
 
Hello. No one has not offended me nor do I feel judged. Some very good points.
However the problems I went through were not fun nor easy to accept. As far as marriage I am in my 30s and I never had a girlfriend that I fell madly in love with. I don’t know what it feels like to fall in love with someone.I do however know what it felt like to fall in love with the church and I can’t help but feel betrayed. I practice and beleive in all the church’s teachings. Never finding someone, I started to think that maybe Jesus was saving me for his Bride. Apperently not. I had one vocations director basically tell me that i am not smart enough to be a priest. Of course I mastered an instrument I know three trades, I ride Grand Prix Dressage, I studied voice and I also know how to fix anything that needs fixing. I would like to think that I have some intellect. and some talent. He was bragging to me that he is accepting an electrical engineer. He has a degree that has NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH GOD… yet he was ushered in. I don’t have a 4 year degree, I am tossed aside. Personally I feel that it is bull that we need a degree to be accepted, it is prejudice and many people I am sure were not accepted that could have been awsome. I feel that you are right I am not called to priesthood. But as I ahve stated, this will not be a two day OK now I am over it thing. When you see a girl you like and get dumped? how does that make you feel??? like your heart was ripped out, like you are tanted goods. I am ok I will live just hurt and I can’t again help how I feel. I obviously am not called that is surely apparent. I did my part I tried I was willing to give up my collections and sell my stuff and get ready to embark on the long journey to becomming a priest, couldn’t even get to first base. I couldn’t even get a second meeting with anyone. So I will feel what I feel and I will not be closed mouth at what I feel, making everyone requiring a 4 year degree is a blanket deal as to which shouldn’t apply to eveyone, most people that have lived a long time dealing with life, which in it’s own right should be considered a master’s , should have other options. I may be wrong but what can I say it sucks. just sucks. Now I ask all of you to pray for me, please. God Bless Scoob.
The most important thing you can do is to obey God. I knew a guy, years ago, a Protestant, who told me that he wanted to be a missionary. He wanted to go off somewhere where the gospel had never been preached and devote his whole life to doing exactly that. However, he was praying for a wife first. As soon as he had his wife, he would be ready for the Great Wide Open. From what I understand, the first girl he dated didn’t want to go to the Missions, and neither did the second. It went on and on and on. The last I heard from him, it had been ten years and he was still unmarried and still hadn’t gone to the missions.

I think the guy had a vocation. But that vocation had been seriously derailed. And derailed by what? It had been derailed by the desires of his heart, which while not specifically sinful, were not in complete alignment with the desires of God’s heart. What WERE God’s desires for this man’s life?

I don’t really know. The tragedy is that I don’t think he knew either.
He’d already had his life mapped out, and he had already decided what he was going to do for God and what God was going to do for Him. All God had to do was get in line and stick with the program. Then everything would be fine.

If you can’t see something wrong with this line of reasoning then you need to mature more before you could ever hope to serve the Bride of Christ in any capacity whatsoever. We are the servants. We are called to obey God. God does not obey us.

How much do you love God anyway? How much do you love the church? I have been turned away from a vocation or given terms and conditions for it that I have never met since 1984. I have tried two different archdioceses, and something like four different religious orders. I STILL want to serve God as a religious, or even as a priest.

When I approached the vocations director for the Archdiocese of Baltimore in 1985, I had 2 and 1/2 years of theology in a Catholic university. I was more than half way there for my bachelor’s degree requirement. I was almost 25 years old. The vocations director turned me away for this reason: I had not gone out with enough girls. I did not have enough dating experience. His words to me were, “Go out with a few girls and then get back to me.” Unfortunately, I was not able to get a girl to go out on a date with me until 1992. I asked an awful lot of girls out. They all said no. For 7 whole years they said no. It took me seven years to meet that requirement. And I might add, the relationship I had with that girl was a terrible experience. I might also add that by that time, after seven years, I had lost something of the zeal and excitement that I had originally had for my vocation.
So then, the matter is this: Did the vocations director screw up in my vocation? My answer is, yes, he probably did.
At present, the matter is this: How do I deal with that? The first thing I do is forgive. He’s never told me that he was wrong. The church has never told me that he was wrong. To be perfectly honest, I really don’t have a steadfast, rock solid belief that he was wrong. I simply don’t know.
How do I deal with that? I accept it, and CONTINUE TO LOVE. Part of the way I continue to love is to CONTINUE TO SERVE. Do you think I waited until ordination day to serve the Church? No way, Jose. I’ve sung meditation songs for communion, I’ve taught Confirmation Class, I’ve done gruntwork for the church like carrying stuff and cleaning stuff and holding ladders for people changing light bulbs. I’ve done nursing home ministry.

There’s alot of things we can do for God, for the church. Not all of them are the priesthood. When I get to heaven, I’m going to hear Jesus say, “Well done, thou good and faithful servant.” That’s what I WANT to hear him say. What is it that I will have done well?
HIS WILL. It’s HIS will, not mine. It’s what HE wants, not what I want. So I’m NOT bitter. I’m NOT angry. I ACCEPT what happened, even if it wasn’t the BEST thing that could have happened. And you know what?

I still love God. God still loves me. I still love the Church. I still serve the church. Did I have a vocation? Was that vocation derailed? You know how I answer those questions? Here is how I answer those questions.

Did I have a vocation and was it derailed?

Answer: I don’t care. I’m going to love and serve God anyway. I’m going to love and serve the Bride of Christ anyway. Do I deserve justice? Yes I do. And if I had justice it would be an eternity of suffering in a burning hell. Thank GOD that there IS NO justice. Because if I got what I deserve I’d be a lot less happy than I am now.

There is no room for bitterness in the heart of any servant of God. You can serve God if you want to, but remember, when you serve, it’s NEVER on YOUR terms. NEVER. Get used to that. It’s part of what it means to be a SERVANT.
 
FOR THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN TURNED AWAY
by FRANCIS BERNARDONE(otherwise known as ST FRANCIS OF ASISSI)

One winter day St. Francis was coming to St. Mary of the Angels from Perugia with Brother Leo, and the bitter cold made them suffer keenly. St. Francis called to Brother Leo, who was walking a bit ahead of him, and he said: “Brother Leo, even if the Friars Minor in every country give a great example of holiness and integrity and good edification, nevertheless write down and note carefully that perfect joy is not in that.”

And when he had walked on a bit, St. Francis called him again, saying: “Brother Leo, even if a Friar Minor gives sight to the blind, heals the paralyzed, drives out devils, gives hearing back to the deaf, makes the lame walk, and restores speech to the dumb, and what is still more, brings back to life a man who has been dead four days, write that perfect joy is not in that.”

And going on a bit, St. Francis cried out again in a strong voice: “Brother Leo, if a Friar Minor knew all languages and all sciences and Scripture, if he also knew bow to prophesy and to reveal not only the future but also the secrets of the consciences and minds of others, write down and note carefully that perfect joy is not in that.”

And as they walked on, after a while St. Francis called again forcefully: 'Brother Leo, Little Lamb of God, even if a Friar minor could speak with the voice of an angel, and knew the courses of the stars and the powers of herbs, and knew all about the treasures in the earth, and if be knew the qualities of birds and fishes, animals, humans, roots, trees, rocks, and waters, write down and note carefully that true joy is not in that."

And going on a bit farther, St. Francis called again strongly: “Brother Leo, even if a Friar Minor could preach so well that be should convert all infidels to the faith of Christ, write that perfect joy is not there.”

Now when he had been talking this way for a distance of two miles, Brother Leo in great amazement asked him: “Father, I beg you in God’s name to tell me where perfect joy is.”

And St. Francis replied; "When we come to St. Mary of the Angels, soaked by the rain and frozen by the cold, all soiled with mud and suffering from hunger, and we ring at the gate of the Place and the brother porter comes and says angrily: ‘Who are you?’ And we say: ‘We are two of your brothers.’ And he contradicts us, saying: ‘You are not telling the truth. Rather you are two rascals who go around deceiving people and stealing what they give to the poor. Go away]’ And he does not open for us, but makes us stand outside in the snow and rain, cold and hungry, until night falls-then if we endure all those insults and cruel rebuffs patiently, without being troubled and without complaining, and if we reflect humbly and charitably that that porter really knows us and that God makes him speak against us, oh, Brother Leo, write that perfect joy is there!

'And if we continue to knock, and the porter comes out in anger, and drives us away with curses and hard blows like bothersome scoundrels, saying; ‘Get away from here, you dirty thieves-go to the hospital! Who do you think you are? You certainly won’t eat or sleep here’–and if we bear it patiently and take the insults with joy and love in our hearts, Oh, Brother Leo, write that that is perfect joy!

And if later, suffering intensely from hunger and the painful cold, with night falling, we still knock and call, and crying loudly beg them to open for us and let us come in for the love of God, and he grows still more angry and says: ‘Those fellows are bold and shameless ruffians. I’ll give them what they deserve.’ And he comes out with a knotty club, and grasping us by the cowl throws us onto the ground, rolling us in the mud and snow, and beats us with that club so much that he covers our bodies with wounds–if we endure all those evils and insults and blows with joy and patience, reflecting that we must accept and bear the sufferings of the Blessed Christ patiently for love of Him, oh, Brother Leo, write: that is perfect joy!

'And now hear the conclusion, Brother Leo. Above all the graces and gifts of the Holy Spirit which Christ gives to His friends is that of conquering oneself and willingly enduring sufferings, insults, humiliations, and hardships for the love of Christ. For we cannot glory in all those other marvelous gifts of God, as they are not ours but God’s, as the Apostle says: ‘What have you that you have not received?’ But we can glory in the cross of tribulations and afflictions, because that is ours, and so the Apostle says: ‘I will not glory save in the Cross of Our Lord Jesus Christ.’"

To whom be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen.

from The Little Flowers of St Francis, The “Fioretti”
 
Patrick made a excellent point. Any vocation, i.e. priesthood, marriage, religious life, is ultimately about love and love should guide us in any test we face. If you’re in your 30s, you are still young and have many possibilities and opportunities ahead of you. Keep you faith strong and your hope high and something good will come your way. I promise.

In order to fulfill their duties as confessors, counselors, and homilists, members of the clergy must be highly educated. The training to become a priest typically requires eight years of study beyond high school. This usually includes getting a college degree, followed by four years of study at a seminary. A priest is required to study theology, philosophy, ecclesiology, exegesis, canon law, and many other disciplines necessary for his ministry, so a college education is needed as a foundation. In addition, priests don’t just celebrate mass and provide sacraments. Many of them administer parishes or some diocesan department, work in tribunals or councils, are professors in universities or seminaries, etc.

One would not expect someone to be hired as a lawyer without a law degree, a physician without a medical degree, or a clinical psychologist without a master’s and doctorate’s degree in psychology. These and many other require undergraduate degrees (bachelor’s) in addition to the advanced/graduate degree. Why should it be any different with priests? One does not opt for the priesthood just because one could not fall “madly in love” with someone. When one receives the calling, one has to prepare to become a priest. Being a priest is not just another trade.

Now, if you’re truly being call for the priesthood, you can still pursue that vocation. Have faith in God and go back to school; you’re still young. If you want it bad enough, you should try to overcome the obstacles. But remember, a vocation is not about our desires, but about God “calling” us and “choosing” us to be his laborers.

By reading this and many of your previous posts, it seems to me that you feel lonely, disappointed and frustrated, not only with the Church but with God and your life in general. I think that you’re also still open to the possibility of finding someone and starting a family, which makes me question if you truly have a vocation not only to the priesthood but to the celibate life. Being celibate because you haven’t found someone (Mrs Right) is not the same as choosing to be celibate for the Kingdom of God.

I can tell you’re a good person that has a lot to offer. I also realize that your life hasn’t been easy. But I think that before you can define what your true vocation is, you need to work on some issues in your life. Being married is about putting your wife first, being a father is about putting your children first, and being a priest is about putting the Church first. Obviously God is always number one. With everything you’ve been through and by reading many of your previous posts, I’m not sure you’re ready for that yet.

Continue to pray and God will shed some light. And if you still want to serve the Church and can’t fulfill the education requirements to be a priest, you should consider a life as a religious brother. If that’s not your vocation, then once you figure out what that is, do everything you can to answer your call. Just remember, God doesn’t always call us for what we want or desire.

Blessings and success to you! 👍
 
Hello It has been a long time since I have been on. For one reason I am taking care of my recovering Mother and living in South Dakota (back in Sioux Falls Diocese) second reason is this,

I have lost interest in talking about the church lately. I have come to grips that priesthood is obviously not my call and so I officially end my discernment. If God wants me he knows where to find me. I feel hurt and I feel like I was played and I feel like a fool. I think the church needs to find an alternative to the vocations director idea. I have no idea how many wonderful gifts God sent to the church that were turned away from “opinions” I can’t help but to get a little hot under my collar everytime I hear “please pray for more vocations” No Pray for a change in how the Church handles gifts God sends her. Am I upset and hurt?? am I dissappointed in the Church?? you have no idea. Will I ever leave her?? Absolutly not. I have a lot of reasons to but I never could leave the true Church the only Church. But I am very angry with her. It will takes years for me to forgive her. Pray for me. God Bless Scoob.
Can you tell us what happened? You’ve really peaked my curiosity.🙂
 
The most important thing you can do is to obey God. I knew a guy, years ago, a Protestant, who told me that he wanted to be a missionary. He wanted to go off somewhere where the gospel had never been preached and devote his whole life to doing exactly that. However, he was praying for a wife first. As soon as he had his wife, he would be ready for the Great Wide Open. From what I understand, the first girl he dated didn’t want to go to the Missions, and neither did the second. It went on and on and on. The last I heard from him, it had been ten years and he was still unmarried and still hadn’t gone to the missions.

I think the guy had a vocation. But that vocation had been seriously derailed. And derailed by what? It had been derailed by the desires of his heart, which while not specifically sinful, were not in complete alignment with the desires of God’s heart. What WERE God’s desires for this man’s life?

I don’t really know. The tragedy is that I don’t think he knew either.
He’d already had his life mapped out, and he had already decided what he was going to do for God and what God was going to do for Him. All God had to do was get in line and stick with the program. Then everything would be fine.

If you can’t see something wrong with this line of reasoning then you need to mature more before you could ever hope to serve the Bride of Christ in any capacity whatsoever. We are the servants. We are called to obey God. God does not obey us.

How much do you love God anyway? How much do you love the church? I have been turned away from a vocation or given terms and conditions for it that I have never met since 1984. I have tried two different archdioceses, and something like four different religious orders. I STILL want to serve God as a religious, or even as a priest.

When I approached the vocations director for the Archdiocese of Baltimore in 1985, I had 2 and 1/2 years of theology in a Catholic university. I was more than half way there for my bachelor’s degree requirement. I was almost 25 years old. The vocations director turned me away for this reason: I had not gone out with enough girls. I did not have enough dating experience. His words to me were, “Go out with a few girls and then get back to me.” Unfortunately, I was not able to get a girl to go out on a date with me until 1992. I asked an awful lot of girls out. They all said no. For 7 whole years they said no. It took me seven years to meet that requirement. And I might add, the relationship I had with that girl was a terrible experience. I might also add that by that time, after seven years, I had lost something of the zeal and excitement that I had originally had for my vocation.
So then, the matter is this: Did the vocations director screw up in my vocation? My answer is, yes, he probably did.
At present, the matter is this: How do I deal with that? The first thing I do is forgive. He’s never told me that he was wrong. The church has never told me that he was wrong. To be perfectly honest, I really don’t have a steadfast, rock solid belief that he was wrong. I simply don’t know.
How do I deal with that? I accept it, and CONTINUE TO LOVE. Part of the way I continue to love is to CONTINUE TO SERVE. Do you think I waited until ordination day to serve the Church? No way, Jose. I’ve sung meditation songs for communion, I’ve taught Confirmation Class, I’ve done gruntwork for the church like carrying stuff and cleaning stuff and holding ladders for people changing light bulbs. I’ve done nursing home ministry.

There’s alot of things we can do for God, for the church. Not all of them are the priesthood. When I get to heaven, I’m going to hear Jesus say, “Well done, thou good and faithful servant.” That’s what I WANT to hear him say. What is it that I will have done well?
HIS WILL. It’s HIS will, not mine. It’s what HE wants, not what I want. So I’m NOT bitter. I’m NOT angry. I ACCEPT what happened, even if it wasn’t the BEST thing that could have happened. And you know what?

I still love God. God still loves me. I still love the Church. I still serve the church. Did I have a vocation? Was that vocation derailed? You know how I answer those questions? Here is how I answer those questions.

Did I have a vocation and was it derailed?

Answer: I don’t care. I’m going to love and serve God anyway. I’m going to love and serve the Bride of Christ anyway. Do I deserve justice? Yes I do. And if I had justice it would be an eternity of suffering in a burning hell. Thank GOD that there IS NO justice. Because if I got what I deserve I’d be a lot less happy than I am now.

There is no room for bitterness in the heart of any servant of God. You can serve God if you want to, but remember, when you serve, it’s NEVER on YOUR terms. NEVER. Get used to that. It’s part of what it means to be a SERVANT.
Aren’t there enough Catholic orders out there that a guy could ‘shop around’, or at least inquire with another order about eligibility? I get the impression some orders are desperate for applicants.🤷
 
Hello It has been a long time since I have been on. For one reason I am taking care of my recovering Mother and living in South Dakota (back in Sioux Falls Diocese) second reason is this,

I have lost interest in talking about the church lately. I have come to grips that priesthood is obviously not my call and so I officially end my discernment. If God wants me he knows where to find me. I feel hurt and I feel like I was played and I feel like a fool. I think the church needs to find an alternative to the vocations director idea. I have no idea how many wonderful gifts God sent to the church that were turned away from “opinions” I can’t help but to get a little hot under my collar everytime I hear “please pray for more vocations” No Pray for a change in how the Church handles gifts God sends her. Am I upset and hurt?? am I dissappointed in the Church?? you have no idea. Will I ever leave her?? Absolutly not. I have a lot of reasons to but I never could leave the true Church the only Church. But I am very angry with her. It will takes years for me to forgive her. Pray for me. God Bless Scoob.
Can I ask you a personal question?

If you think it is not your vocation, why the bad feeling?

And why are you angry???
 
Scooby,
You are in my prayers. I think you are right - it’s going to take awhile to work through this. Keep talking and listening to God (even if you have to grumble sometimes:) :banghead:
 
Can I ask you a personal question?

If you think it is not your vocation, why the bad feeling?

Well, my point is that I still want to be a priest, but I ask what is wrong with me?? why not me what did I do to make God turn me away??? I mean I am a virgin I am straight I have no problems in the sex area and my manhood!! I believe in all the church’s teachings and try to live them I have so much experience of dissappointments troubles I have dealt with so much, I feel God does not want me. so I feel that I am not called because if I were I would atleast would have had some help getting past the gate keeprs and the red tape. All I can say is Jesus knows where I am and knows where to find me and yes I am hurt. plain and simple. God bless Scoob.
 
Can I ask you a personal question?

If you think it is not your vocation, why the bad feeling?

Well, my point is that I still want to be a priest, but I ask what is wrong with me?? why not me what did I do to make God turn me away??? I mean I am a virgin I am straight I have no problems in the sex area and my manhood!! I believe in all the church’s teachings and try to live them I have so much experience of dissappointments troubles I have dealt with so much, I feel God does not want me. so I feel that I am not called because if I were I would atleast would have had some help getting past the gate keeprs and the red tape. All I can say is Jesus knows where I am and knows where to find me and yes I am hurt. plain and simple. God bless Scoob.
Listen, if you are really praying. Really meaning you pray the Rosary, go to mass as much as possible and practice virtue and you find you don’t have a vocation to the priesthood then maybe you don’t.

St. Louis IX of France wanted to remain a virgin all his life.
But he had another vocation. He had to bring children to the Throne. It was an obligation before God and his subjects.
So he only had relations the times neccesary to have sufficient heirs. Yet he went on the Crusades and dedicated his life to the Church and his people.

Then again, I have seen so many people who have vocation who for lack of prayer or courage are saying "I’m still in “discernment” or “I am called to another thing” instead of “Here I am Lord!”.

So I, not knowing you can only give you three pieces of advice:

Vigiliance- No use praying if you walk into an abyss of sin.

Prayer- After vigilance comes prayer because you could see the enemy and not have the strength to defeat him

Pray More- The Rosary, Daily Mass, LOTH…
 
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