no. i’m just saying that if you have an unresolved issue with a fellow member, then you take it to the congregation where you both attend. right?You’re not suggesting relativism here are you AT?
The wisdom of the ages says the earth is flat? Your definition of the ages is very selective.exactly. every religion out there is nothing but opinion. whether its catholicism, islam, buddhism, protestantism, whatever.
the only explanation to that verse can only be relativistic. you go to whatever congregation you belong to.
yeah like the wisdom of the ages which says that the earth is flat.
just reminding people that old beliefs & traditions can be very unreliable.
Just as they can be very reliable. That is why it is important to be careful where you look.
You misunderstood me. Please re-read that post. I am 100% Catholic.
Well, how do I take it to this “community of believers” to get the truth about infant baptism?
No… AgnosTheist… The Church is not man made… Jesus established his Church here on earth. The Catholic Church can show by it’s history and writings a direct link back to the apostles. What more evidence would you want?
You are correct, that is what today’s Christian would do.
That would be true if Christ meant us to have multiple churches. But since He said there would be one, you know they all can’t be what He meant.
Jesus died before establishing a church. Rather historians credit much of the work on Paul, and by Paul’s opinion he was pretty much against the idea of christians saying “i follow this guy, i follow that guy”. Of which both catholics and protestants are guilty of. You are all just followers of jesus.That would be true if Christ meant us to have multiple churches. But since He said there would be one, you know they all can’t be what He meant.
Actually, Jesus did say, You are Peter and upon this Rock I will build my Church, then He gave him the keys. Peter’s name was Simon, and Jesus changed it to Rock. (living in Canada, you must know the French name for Peter is Pierre).
Lampo;
that doesnt mean that church membership is limited to those of whom peter have blessed. paul, what many historians say had founded christianity, became an apostle without the help of peter.
lets see the passage…
That Paul spread the word does not negate the primacy of Peter. Acts clearly shows Peter as the leader. It is always whenever he speaks, the all stop and listen. He formulated the first Doctrines, no circumcision or Jewish dietary laws.
Well, I’m sick of verse slinging, but I’ll look for it tomorrow. I’m going home.
There are many communities of believers. That is why there are so many different demoninations out there. What is the number now 40 thousand, and they all claim to be the true church. That’s why there are so many opinions on Baptism. To find out what is the true church, all you have to do is look hard and you will find it. It is the Church that has stood up to every single advesary to this very day. Evil comes in many forms to attack its walls and the walls are still standing. These are the walls of the Catholic Church.
Ha! There is one truth. Beyond that, the question becomes what degree we are blind to it.LOL! The truth is there are many truths. To each his own.
You are understanding the problem, but it is just a hypothetical. I am just interested in which Church non-Catholic Christians believe is being referred to in this passage.
What if this issue is between a Lutheran, which teaches infant baptism and a Southern Baptist(teaches believer’s baptism only.)? Which Church?
the passage was about personal grievances, not doctrines.