Jack Chick -- a vent

[YADA]

really, in Oregon? i live in OR and had never heard of chick until I read about him here

A couple of years back i was working on a construction site in down town Portland when a guy in a wheel chair came up to me and asked if I was a christian and attended church and started to hand me a pamphlet … when I said “yes, I attend Our Lady of the Lake” he put the pamphlet he was going to give me back and handed me the Jack Chick tract about the guy who gets run over by a truck right after going to confession … boy was I mad … but that motorized wheel chair was out of sight …

I have gotten Jack Chick tracts several times at “Events” in down town Portland … now I just don’t ever go to events like the Rose Festival, Cinc de Mayo or the 4th of Kuly Jazz Festival … not worth the head ache …

Oregon has quite an Anti Catholic past and present … … a great sadness … that is hard to explain

 

[Believe_85]

A couple of years back i was working on a construction site in down town Portland when a guy in a wheel chair came up to me and asked if I was a christian and attended church and started to hand me a pamphlet … when I said “yes, I attend Our Lady of the Lake” he put the pamphlet he was going to give me back and handed me the Jack Chick tract about the guy who gets run over by a truck right after going to confession … boy was I mad … but that motorized wheel chair was out of sight …

I have gotten Jack Chick tracts several times at “Events” in down town Portland … now I just don’t ever go to events like the Rose Festival, Cinc de Mayo or the 4th of Kuly Jazz Festival … not worth the head ache …

Oregon has quite an Anti Catholic past and present … … a great sadness … that is hard to explain

Oh I agree. The two colleges I went to here both had tons of people who had crazy ideas about Catholicism. Classmates have told me I’m brainwashed by the Pope and accused Catholics of believing the Bible has literal meaning only. Others take pride in their non-Catholic status…not just pride, but to the point of holding it over me. Why revel in our separation? It makes no sense.

 

[YADA]

Oh I agree. The two colleges I went to here both had tons of people who had crazy ideas about Catholicism. Classmates have told me I’m brainwashed by the Pope and accused Catholics of believing the Bible has literal meaning only. Others take pride in their non-Catholic status…not just pride, but to the point of holding it over me. Why revel in our separation? It makes no sense.

Yes, it is so very strange … when Clackamas Community College had a “art” showing that included an anti-catholic piece a few years back, I had a very interesting conversation with the college president because I told the Engineering department to take my company off their mailing list. I told them I would no longer send any employees to their CAD classes …

This president attempted to justify the showing and then attempted to persuade me that i was being “unjust” to the engineering department by holding it responsibe for a decision by another department …

I was not persuaded by any of his arguments and have not sent any employees to classes there and never will … As I told him "I have no choice in the property taxes they take from me personally and from my business that support the college … but I do not have to pay tuition to an institution that is anti-catholic and/or promotes anti-catholic bigotry … THAT IS MY CHOICE AND I CHOOSE NOT !!!

FYI: I have never regretted my decision …

 

[Believe_85]

good for you, YADA

 

[Lost_Wanderer]

A couple of years back i was working on a construction site in down town Portland when a guy in a wheel chair came up to me and asked if I was a christian and attended church and started to hand me a pamphlet … when I said “yes, I attend Our Lady of the Lake” he put the pamphlet he was going to give me back and handed me the Jack Chick tract about the guy who gets run over by a truck right after going to confession … boy was I mad … but that motorized wheel chair was out of sight …

I have gotten Jack Chick tracts several times at “Events” in down town Portland … now I just don’t ever go to events like the Rose Festival, Cinc de Mayo or the 4th of Kuly Jazz Festival … not worth the head ache …

Oregon has quite an Anti Catholic past and present … … a great sadness … that is hard to explain

Gosh that makes me wish I was there with a pair of ATs (they’re these fictional, motorized rollerblades in a manga I read, they make you go reaaally fast ) I’d have taken that tract, caught up to him, then toss it in his face. Honestly, some people are so stupid, they can’t see the line they’ve crossed.

On the other hand, if I ever caught someone sneaking in Chick Tracts like someone mentioned here, I’d instantly take the tract right there and say, “Hey dude, no littering.” Then into the trash it goes where it rightly belongs.

Call me mean, but that’s just how much of a loser I see Jack Chick is.

 

[dzheremi]

Oregon has quite an Anti Catholic past and present … … a great sadness … that is hard to explain

While I’m not there now (on vacation), I live in Eugene. I haven’t noticed much anti-Catholicism, but then I also haven’t noticed much Catholicism either. Maybe all the hippies around are too busy smoking marijuana and playing bongos to care either way. I don’t know. I am also not a native Oregonian, so I don’t know much of its history, anti-Catholic or otherwise.

What is anti-Catholic here, beyond the usual knee-jerk anti-religious statements that are found in most places with large college-aged populations? I have made many friends here of Orthodox faith (Armenians, Russians, etc). None of them ever speak ill of the Catholic church, and after finding out that I am Roman Catholic, they were all very impressed that I knew anything about Orthodoxy at all. Maybe they had assumed that I would immediately turn them over to the Pontiff’s Gestapo. (We have that, right? I’m pretty sure that’s in one of Jack’s tracts…)

Anyway, so perhaps it’s more of a Protestant phenomenon…?

 

[dzheremi]

I know they are available in Russian translations, I have seen them (you can also see them on his website, I think), but I don’t know if any of them target the Orthodox. No doubt he’d hate them too, as they too refuse to be Evangelical Protestants.

 

[Lost_Wanderer]

No doubt he’d hate them too, as they too refuse to be Evangelical Protestants.

I think it’s been long established waaay before the creation of this thread that ol Jack hates just about everybody who is not as insane, paranoid, uncreative, judgmental, idiotic and just downright batty as he is.

 

[Lost_Wanderer]

Unfortunately I haven’t seen any tracts either but I have just recently seen an anti-Orthodox article on the Chick Publications website in case you wanna give that a look.

 

[Believe_85]

While I’m not there now (on vacation), I live in Eugene. I haven’t noticed much anti-Catholicism, but then I also haven’t noticed much Catholicism either. Maybe all the hippies around are too busy smoking marijuana and playing bongos to care either way. I don’t know. I am also not a native Oregonian, so I don’t know much of its history, anti-Catholic or otherwise.

What is anti-Catholic here, beyond the usual knee-jerk anti-religious statements that are found in most places with large college-aged populations? I have made many friends here of Orthodox faith (Armenians, Russians, etc). None of them ever speak ill of the Catholic church, and after finding out that I am Roman Catholic, they were all very impressed that I knew anything about Orthodoxy at all. Maybe they had assumed that I would immediately turn them over to the Pontiff’s Gestapo. (We have that, right? I’m pretty sure that’s in one of Jack’s tracts…)

Anyway, so perhaps it’s more of a Protestant phenomenon…?

I haven’t seen much antiCatholic sentiment while out in public like YADA has, but in my experience when you get a big group of people together and mention Catholicism, the ugly beast of ignorance raises its head.

 

[strngrnrth]

It’s one of the big ones, an Alberto series issue. Those are enough to make even the people who basically believe him gag, I think. The NW has a lot of Anti-Catholic fanaticism for several reasons.
There’s always been a big Russian population here, since long before anyone came overland to the West Coast other than the Spanish. All the same, most Northwesterners barely realize Orthodox Christianity exists and some have never heard of it. I was in a shouting match with an older woman (Her attitude: Never contradict an elder. Mine: Unless she’s mistaken), after she said a man in the neighborhood was Jewish and I know he is an Orthodox Christian priest. To her, the word Orthodox means Jewish, and nothing else. People who walk by Orthodox churches daily for years have asked me “What is that place, anyway, some kind of church? Is it Christian?” It has crosses and crucifixes visible from the street.

 

[YADA]

While I’m not there now (on vacation), I live in Eugene. I haven’t noticed much anti-Catholicism, but then I also haven’t noticed much Catholicism either. …
Anyway, so perhaps it’s more of a Protestant phenomenon…?

About 10 years ago [plus or minus] … they had a parade in Eugene [City Sponsored] … the Grand Prize winning float was on called “Pope Fiction” that had people dressed as priests and nuns …

During the parade, this float passed by a catholic church and they stopped in front of that catholic church … The people ran up the steps and dropped their pants [pulled up their habits] and mooned the church …

Don’t know about you but I find this to be anti-catholic to the max …

During the campaign to make Oregon the first state to support physician assisted suicide Bishop Steiner’s home was vandelized …

Churches are regualrly vandilized …

That is my home state … Oregon

 

[strngrnrth]

About 10 years ago [plus or minus] … they had a parade in Eugene [City Sponsored] … the Grand Prize winning float was on called “Pope Fiction” that had people dressed as priests and nuns …

During the parade, this float passed by a catholic church and they stopped in front of that catholic church … The people ran up the steps and dropped their pants [pulled up their habits] and mooned the church …

Don’t know about you but I find this to be anti-catholic to the max …

During the campaign to make Oregon the first state to support physician assisted suicide Bishop Steiner’s home was vandelized …

Churches are regualrly vandilized …

That is my home state … Oregon

Out of the whole country, I believe the five least religious towns were all in the PNW and NoCal about five years ago. I think it was something like Oly, Corvallis, Eugene, Ashland, Redding in geographic order.
It’s not just Catholics so many West Coast residents hate. They hate Baptists, Pentecostals, Lutherans, Methodists and anyone else who isn’t an atheist, agnostic, New-Age syncretist or make-it-up-as-you-go-along Neo-Pagan. Many people can’t tolerate even actual pagans. Too much like believing things that eisted before they were born. It might be nothing deeper than resentment of authority.

 

[whatevergirl]

hahah

Jack T Chik is the greatest idiot of all time.
According to him the catholic chruch started islam. Mohammed’s 1st wife was supposedly a papal agent used by the pope to recruit Mohammad so the papcy could regain the holy land. hahah what nonsense! The jesuits are also suposedly behind ww1,ww2, the lincoln and kenedy assasinations, the holocaust, the inquisition, communism, fascism and everything else bad that happens. he makes all these comments but he is yet to offer 1 shred of evidence for these claims other than obscure book refrences

there are sooo many discrepanices in his work…it’s amazing. This right here should scream that he speaks falsely about Catholics, because Islam teaches that it wasn’t Christ who died on the cross, for starters…and Catholics of course, believe that Christ redeemed us through His blood on the cross. I don’t understand frankly, how this man has a following with what he ‘preaches.’

 

[YADA]

Out of the whole country, I believe the five least religious towns were all in the PNW and NoCal about five years ago. I think it was something like Oly, Corvallis, Eugene, Ashland, Redding in geographic order.
It’s not just Catholics so many West Coast residents hate. They hate Baptists, Pentecostals, Lutherans, Methodists and anyone else who isn’t an atheist, agnostic, New-Age syncretist or make-it-up-as-you-go-along Neo-Pagan. Many people can’t tolerate even actual pagans. Too much like believing things that eisted before they were born. It might be nothing deeper than resentment of authority.

I am not sure about your entire list … Olympia and Redding being unknown to me persoanlly … you left off Portland, Oregon … IMHO it should be on the list …

 

[adstrinity]

OOOOH!! What’s the anti-Orthodox tract? I want to see how we (the Catholics) created them to promote Satan.

I was at the Post Office a few months ago and there was a tract on one of the tables. I hesitated but, I ultimately grabbed it and threw it away. To this day I am wondering if I did the right thing because it could have eventually led somebody to Christ in a way at a later date.

 

[Lost_Wanderer]

OOOOH!! What’s the anti-Orthodox tract? I want to see how we (the Catholics) created them to promote Satan.

Actually, it’s not a tract but an article published by Chick Publications. Still, who knows maybe if we’re unlucky enough, he might just actually get bored at bashing all the other poor religions he’s already slandered and seek new prey.

I just hope though that he doesn’t do the same with his attitude towards popular media. If he grows tired of bashing rock music and DnD and starts aiming for other things that are popular today (e.g. WoW, anime, video games) I shall be very… very… upset.

 

[Della]

I was at the Post Office a few months ago and there was a tract on one of the tables. I hesitated but, I ultimately grabbed it and threw it away. To this day I am wondering if I did the right thing because it could have eventually led somebody to Christ in a way at a later date.

Don’t feel badly. The likelihood of someone being led to Christ by such a tract is pretty slim, especially if it was one of his anti-anybody-he-hates rants. People don’t convert via hate but via love. And although the Holy Spirit can use just about anything to open hearts, eyes, and minds to Christ, there’s no reason why we should encourage anyone to take the Chick route when all his other stuff is so obviously inspired by quite another person from someplace far removed from heaven.

 

[strngrnrth]

Don’t feel badly. The likelihood of someone being led to Christ by such a tract is pretty slim, especially if it was one of his anti-anybody-he-hates rants. People don’t convert via hate but via love. And although the Holy Spirit can use just about anything to open hearts, eyes, and minds to Christ, there’s no reason why we should encourage anyone to take the Chick route when all his other stuff is so obviously inspired by quite another person from someplace far removed from heaven.

People who know better hand out Chick lit, JW pamphlets and Christian Science mags because they’re eye-catching. Chick’s slogan is “Chick tracts get read!” What we need is to produce something even more eye-catching, and true instead of full of nonsense.

 

[Lost_Wanderer]

People who know better hand out Chick lit, JW pamphlets and Christian Science mags because they’re eye-catching. Chick’s slogan is “Chick tracts get read!” What we need is to produce something even more eye-catching, and true instead of full of nonsense.

Actually I’m planning on being one of those people who plan on making material to counter Chick’s idiocy. I don’t desire to do it alone though.

Still, I don’t think you need to worry. With the internet, it will only be a matter of time before everyone will know the truth about Jack Chick. That he’s nothing more than a another typical fundamentalist moron.

Unless of course Chick-tians are so paranoid and brainwashed about the modern world that they forbid their brethren to have Internet access.