Japan nuclear disaster tops scale

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The raising of the scale of the Japanese nuclear power plant is an after the fact public relations ploy to try to convince the world how sorry they are.

But the Japanese problems were NOWHERE near as hazardous as the Chernobyl meltdown.

In fact, the Japanese reactors DID NOT MELT DOWN.
 
Monte_RCMS said:
The raising of the scale of the Japanese nuclear power plant is an after the fact public relations ploy to try to convince the world how sorry they are.

But the Japanese problems were NOWHERE near as hazardous as the Chernobyl meltdown.

In fact, the Japanese reactors DID NOT MELT DOWN.
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Bolded above: please explain what you’ve said.
Who’s “sorry” and why are they sorry?

Thank you.
 
catharina said:
Bolded above: please explain what you’ve said.
Who’s “sorry” and why are they sorry?

Thank you.
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Part of the Japanese culture: when somebody screws up [loses face], they commit ritual hara-kiri. Corporations and government can’t actually kill themselves, so they do this little kabuki play to demonstrate their sorrow for their shame and for having lost face.

So, instead of seppuku, ritual disembowelment for a corporation, which is not possible, they self-abase themselves in public.

They did this when a suspected automobile fault caused certain cars to suddenly accelerate. So the president of the company and other executives presented themselves to a U.S. Congressional committee to be public flogged. [Turned out the drivers were stepping on the accelerator instead of on the brake. Not guilty.]

A few years back, a Japanese catering company screwed up and some customers got sick. In that case, the local manager actually did commit suicide.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seppuku
 
Monte_RCMS said:
Part of the Japanese culture: when somebody screws up [loses face], they commit ritual hara-kiri. Corporations and government can’t actually kill themselves, so they do this little kabuki play to demonstrate their sorrow for their shame and for having lost face.

So, instead of seppuku, ritual disembowelment for a corporation, which is not possible, they self-abase themselves in public.

They did this when a suspected automobile fault caused certain cars to suddenly accelerate. So the president of the company and other executives presented themselves to a U.S. Congressional committee to be public flogged. [Turned out the drivers were stepping on the accelerator instead of on the brake. Not guilty.]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seppuku
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So says wiki. (?)
Quite a theory.
 
catharina said:
I checked the wiki link. Extra link unneeded.

Can’t imagine why I would ever be interested in
any details related to Japanese ritual-suicide.

(Can’t imagine why you are either.
Takes all kinds …?)
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It’s the reason why the Japanese are exaggerating, after the fact, the severity of their nuclear issues.

“Yes, it’s the world’s worst catastrophe, and we handled it badly, so sorry, so sorry.”
 
This is so sad. I knew from the very beginning that this would prove to be a huge disaster. Unfortunately, it wasn’t exactly preventable. 😦
 
Monte_RCMS said:
It’s the reason why the Japanese are exaggerating, after the fact, the severity of their nuclear issues.

“Yes, it’s the world’s worst catastrophe, and we handled it badly, so sorry, so sorry.”
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My dad worked for a Japanese company for 40 years… you are so right.

It is a cultural thing with Japan… an 'Honor" thing.
Disgracing your name or your family is the worst thing in the world to them… and they will publicly flog themselves for it.
Its an interesting culture.
 
catharina said:
Harikari, yes, of course.
Seppuku? No.
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Harikiri literally mean ‘abdomen cutting’ and is generally considered a vulgar slang. Seppuku is ritual suicide to regain honor. Samurai would slice their abdomen open and sit stoicly waiting to die. If they started to give into the pain, their second would behead them to prevent any further dishonor from crying out in pain. Women were not allowed to use such technique, so they would stab themselves in the throat, which generally ended quicker. Madame Butterfly caused a stir in Japan and was banned for a time because the leading lady would use the samurai method and this was an affront to their culture.

Japanese feudal culture was something I studied for fun in high school.
 
Baron_Korf said:
Harikiri literally mean ‘abdomen cutting’ and is generally considered a vulgar slang. Seppuku is ritual suicide to regain honor. Samurai would slice their abdomen open and sit stoicly waiting to die. If they started to give into the pain, their second would behead them to prevent any further dishonor from crying out in pain. Women were not allowed to use such technique, so they would stab themselves in the throat, which generally ended quicker. Madame Butterfly caused a stir in Japan and was banned for a time because the leading lady would use the samurai method and this was an affront to their culture.

Japanese feudal culture was something I studied for fun in high school.
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Fascinating.
 
catharina said:
I checked the wiki link. Extra link unneeded.

Can’t imagine why I would ever be interested in
any details related to Japanese ritual-suicide.

(Can’t imagine why you are either.
Takes all kinds …?)
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Japan is an important country for the United States and for the world. In many respects.

It’s helpful to understand their culture and how they think and what motivates them.
 
Monte_RCMS said:
Japan is an important country for the United States and for the world. In many respects.

It’s helpful to understand their culture and how they think and what motivates them.
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Can’t imagine why I would ever be interested in
any details related to Japanese ritual-suicide.
 
catharina said:
Can’t imagine why I would ever be interested in
any details related to Japanese ritual-suicide.
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Understanding how serious they take their honor explains a lot, that was the point.

It also explains why Fukishima 50 are willing to die in the reactor. Their whole family will share in the honor of their heroic actions.

Its a neat culture… its also why you can forget your wallet at a restaurant in Japan and it will not be stolen.
 
Stjudeprayforus said:
Understanding how serious they take their honor explains a lot, that was the point.

It also explains why Fukishima 50 are willing to die in the reactor. Their whole family will share in the honor of their heroic actions.

Its a neat culture… its also why you can forget your wallet at a restaurant in Japan and it will not be stolen.
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Still, the details of ritual-suicide are TMI, IMO.
There is no need at all for that sort of detail - IMO.

Once more,

**Can’t imagine why I would ever be interested in
any details related to Japanese ritual-suicide. **
 
Also explains a lot about how World War II got started.

Read “Bankrupting the Enemy: The U.S. Financial Siege of Japan Before Pearl Harbor” by Edward B. Miller.

Miller has several other books that relate.

Important stuff, given the international messes that could have bee avoided in the past and with understanding could be avoided in the future … different cultures in some cases, but important to understand them to learn their vulnerabilities and ours.

What goes on in Japan or Saudi Arabia or Iran or Brazil is not the same as the culture of Sunnyvale, California.
 
Monte_RCMS said:
Also explains a lot about how World War II got started.

Read “Bankrupting the Enemy: The U.S. Financial Siege of Japan Before Pearl Harbor” by Edward B. Miller.

Miller has several other books that relate.

Important stuff, given the international messes that could have bee avoided in the past and with understanding could be avoided in the future … different cultures in some cases, but important to understand them to learn their vulnerabilities and ours.

What goes on in Japan or Saudi Arabia or Iran or Brazil is not the same as the culture of Sunnyvale, California.
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Wouldn’t want to be stuck living in any of those places - including Sunnyvale CA.
 
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