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Jean_1958
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I understand that Jehovah Witnesses use their own Bible translation. Can someone give me examples of how Scripture was changed and how the meaning was altered?
Thank you.
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CalCatholic
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I am aware of one alteration off hand in ‘The New World Translation’, and that is in John 1:1 which states; 'In the beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a God.’ This is how the JWs get around the doctrine of the Trinity.
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Catholic_Dude
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The examples are too numerous to count.
There is obviously the infamous John 1:1, which is blatantly exposed by their own official interpretation.
Don’t forget about the way the went through the NT and replaced the Greek word for “Lord” with “Jehovah” - even though (and they admit this) not a single manuscript has the word “Jehovah” in the NT. Of course, they don’t translate “Lord” as “Jehovah” when the Bible uses “Lord” in reference to Jesus, but that’s just a double standard.
There is also the other infamous case when they insert the term “[other]” in brackets five times in Colossian’s 1, admitting the word isn’t there in the Greek, though I noticed in newer printings they’ve dropped the brackets! They do this because when it says Jesus created “all things,” it indicates Jesus was not created, but they make it say Jesus created “all [other] things” so as to “prove” that Jesus was the only thing created, and from then on he created everything else.
One lesser known but equally scandalous example is when the JW’s officially teach Jesus only became the Messiah “at his baptism,” not before - yet Luke 2:10 says when the Angel tells the shepherds that Jesus had just been born: “because there was born to YOU today a Savior, who is [to be] Christ the Lord.” In the printed JW Bible, they ADD the brackets and the words “to be” in brackets and thus blatantly change the meaning from “present” to “future”. So even they admit the text says ‘is [right now] the Messiah’ but can’t have that so they boldly inject “to be” in brackets. (The term “Christ” means “anointed” which also means “Messiah”)
In Matthew 26, when Jesus says “This is my Body,” the JW Bible translates it as “This means my body,” to give it a ‘symbolic’, non-literal spin.
There are many other examples, too numerous to count - all easily verifiable. You get the idea though.
Sad, that’s all I can say, because these are blatant tampering with the very Scriptures they claim are most faithful to the Greek. It’s not even a matter of saying maybe this or that word might be better translated as X, instead they go ahead and insert their own words not even in the Greek, defying the text.
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Fink
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On the Cross, our Lord says to the repentant thief in Luke 23:43:
“I tell you, this very day you will be with Me in Paradise.”
The Jehovah`s Witnesses believe in soul sleep, so the NWT has it:
“I tell you this very day, you will be with Me in Paradise.”
Another example of a seemingly minor change, in this case moving a little old comma, subverting an entire doctrine!
“I tell you, this very day you will be with Me in Paradise.”
The Jehovah`s Witnesses believe in soul sleep, so the NWT has it:
“I tell you this very day, you will be with Me in Paradise.”
Another example of a seemingly minor change, in this case moving a little old comma, subverting an entire doctrine!
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Jaypeeto4
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Hi.
Actually, Jehovah’s Witnesses DO NOT believe in Soul-SLEEP.
Rather, they believe that,
at death,
the soul is ANNIHILATED, i.e., utterly goes out of existence, because
they believe that the Soul is the Living Body.
Dead Body to them equals dead or annihilated Soul.
In the Resurrection,
they believe that the body, being re-created and re-animated
by Divine Power, is the Resurrection of the soul, too,
since in their belief the soul is the living body.
This was my religion for years when I was much younger.
Actually, Jehovah’s Witnesses DO NOT believe in Soul-SLEEP.
Rather, they believe that,
at death,
the soul is ANNIHILATED, i.e., utterly goes out of existence, because
they believe that the Soul is the Living Body.
Dead Body to them equals dead or annihilated Soul.
In the Resurrection,
they believe that the body, being re-created and re-animated
by Divine Power, is the Resurrection of the soul, too,
since in their belief the soul is the living body.
This was my religion for years when I was much younger.
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Jim_Dandy
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One can usually buy an inexpensive used copy of the “New World Translation” at a used book store, or even Good Will.
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Church_Militant
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T_More
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These are some excellent articles in regards to the NWT:
catholic-forum.com/members/popestleo/hiding.html
catholicxjw.com/Wordwasgod.html
catholicxjw.com/JesusYahweh.html
jwfacts.com/watchtower/jehovah.php
jwfacts.com/watchtower/worship-jesus.php
The NWT was transliterated to remove 3 things from scripture. 1, The divinity of Christ. 2, The existence of Hell. And 3, the immortality of the soul. I like asking JW’s if the NWT is so accurate, why are they the only ones that use it? Anytime a sect takes on a translation all by themselves, it’s usually because other versions are not telling them what they want to hear. The previous posters are correct, there are too many verses to count of how they have changed what scripture is saying. A classic example is in John 8 where they insert [he] after Christ says I AM, thus trying to dilute the claim of what He was claiming to be. This happens again in John 9 and John 18. There are many, many more examples.
catholic-forum.com/members/popestleo/hiding.html
catholicxjw.com/Wordwasgod.html
catholicxjw.com/JesusYahweh.html
jwfacts.com/watchtower/jehovah.php
jwfacts.com/watchtower/worship-jesus.php
The NWT was transliterated to remove 3 things from scripture. 1, The divinity of Christ. 2, The existence of Hell. And 3, the immortality of the soul. I like asking JW’s if the NWT is so accurate, why are they the only ones that use it? Anytime a sect takes on a translation all by themselves, it’s usually because other versions are not telling them what they want to hear. The previous posters are correct, there are too many verses to count of how they have changed what scripture is saying. A classic example is in John 8 where they insert [he] after Christ says I AM, thus trying to dilute the claim of what He was claiming to be. This happens again in John 9 and John 18. There are many, many more examples.
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Fink
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OK. Point taken.
According to one of their publications, Jehovah God stores all of the “memories” of the deceased in His own mind, and then puts them into the new body at the resurrection.
In the JW`s case, “soul sleep” is obviously an incorrect term.
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Big_Dummy
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satsonline.org/userfiles/Baumgarten%20K,%20MTh%20Thesis%20(Final).pdf
A linguistic critique of the “New World translation of the Holy Scriptures (NWT)” in connection with Christ’s deityBrian N. Kneser
A linguistic critique of the “New World translation of the Holy Scriptures (NWT)” in connection with Christ’s deityBrian N. Kneser
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TimothyH
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Matthew 26:26-29 is one of the most blatant changes, substituting “means” for “is”.
As they continued eating, Jesus took a loaf and, after saying a blessing, he broke it and, giving it to the disciples, he said: "Take, eat. This means my body." Also, he took a cup and, having given thanks, he gave it to them, saying: "Drink out of it, all of you; for this means my ‘blood of the covenant,’ which is to be poured out in behalf of many for forgiveness of sins. (Matthew 26:26, New World Translation)
The Greek word is “estin” which translates to “is”. The word substituion is clear and deliberate.
They also changed the phrase “worship” to “obiesciance” whenever scripture references worshipping Jesus. Hebrews 1:6 in their own New World Translation read “Let all God’s angels worship him” unitl 1970 when the Watchtower Society changed it to read “do obeisance to him.”
Then those in the boat did obeisance to him, saying: “You are really God’s Son.” (Matthew 14:33 New World Translation)
Again, the subsitution is clear, deliberate, and with the agenda to remove every reference to Jesus’ divinity.
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As they continued eating, Jesus took a loaf and, after saying a blessing, he broke it and, giving it to the disciples, he said: "Take, eat. This means my body." Also, he took a cup and, having given thanks, he gave it to them, saying: "Drink out of it, all of you; for this means my ‘blood of the covenant,’ which is to be poured out in behalf of many for forgiveness of sins. (Matthew 26:26, New World Translation)
The Greek word is “estin” which translates to “is”. The word substituion is clear and deliberate.
They also changed the phrase “worship” to “obiesciance” whenever scripture references worshipping Jesus. Hebrews 1:6 in their own New World Translation read “Let all God’s angels worship him” unitl 1970 when the Watchtower Society changed it to read “do obeisance to him.”
Then those in the boat did obeisance to him, saying: “You are really God’s Son.” (Matthew 14:33 New World Translation)
Again, the subsitution is clear, deliberate, and with the agenda to remove every reference to Jesus’ divinity.
-Tim-
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JohnOneOne
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Regarding Jehovah’s Witnesses’ “New World Translation” Bible and its rendering of John 1:1, it may interest you to know that, in support and explanation of their wording of this verse (especially within the third clause with “a god”), there is soon to be published a 19+ year study (as of 8/2011), a thoroughly researched reference work - an historical analysis & exhaustive annotated bibliography - it will be entitled, “What About John 1:1?”
To learn more of its design and expected release date, you are invited to visit:
goodcompanionbooks.com
When finally published, apart from discussing many of the other topics and scriptures often related to the man-made Trinity doctrine, you will also discover that we have collected information on about 430+ scholarly reference works (mostly Trinitarian) which, throughout the centuries, had opted to say something other than, “and the Word was God,” and that, included among them are over 120 which had chosen to use “a god” within the third clause of their renderings.
As you might expect, we are very excited at the opportunity to share our findings with others.
Agape, JohnOneOne.
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Cyclophile
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Must be interesting… to be able to rewrite the rules every so often to fit your world view…
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Miriam1947
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Actually, my understanding is that there were no commas nor were there verses in the originals.On the Cross, our Lord says to the repentant thief in Luke 23:43:
“I tell you, this very day you will be with Me in Paradise.”
The Jehovah`s Witnesses believe in soul sleep, so the NWT has it:
“I tell you this very day, you will be with Me in Paradise.”
Another example of a seemingly minor change, in this case moving a little old comma, subverting an entire doctrine!
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T_More
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Copy, paste, copy, paste…
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arius325
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Reply,
My Catholic (fleshly) brother has asked me to join “Catholic Answers”, he is at the moment on the “Is Jesus God” topic and has quoted me a few times, but this topic caught my eye, as there are many critics of the NWT and I’ve not come across any that have not been sucessfully challenged!
Arius
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arius325
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Hello John,
Having looked through some of the replies and the lack of know how and empirical data, what I’ve seen on here is typical of Trinitarian ignorance, sentimentality, spin and rhetoric etc!
How many Trinitarians (for example) are told by their church leaders, that there are at least 48 NT translations, that translate similar to the NWT and of the 48 there are 18 that translate exactly as does the NWT i.e. “a god” or “a God” and I’m sure several of them, if not most are Trinitarian NT’s!
The question is, why are those in church authority hiding these empirical facts from their laity, who may not be familiar with classical or koine Greek, grammar, nuances and syntax etc!
Examples on request!
Best wishes,
Arius
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Big_Dummy
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also, in fact no spaces, nor lower case letter too.
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Big_Dummy
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Really, then you are not paying attention.
THE TRUTH ABOUT
TRUTH IN TRANSLATION
A Review and Analysis by
Thomas A. Howe, Ph.D.
apologeticsindex.org/j01.html
equip.org/articles/john-1-1-and-the-new-world-translation
freeminds.org/doctrine/publications/the-new-world-translation-and-its-critics.html
digilander.libero.it/domingo7/protestanti.htm
aomin.org/aoblog/index.php?amount=0&blogid=1&query=beduhn
forananswer.org/Top_JW/Scholars%20and%20NWT.htm
tetragrammaton.org/
Bias in New Testament Translations? A Defense of the Deity of Christ [Paperback]
Thomas Howe (Author)
amazon.com/Testament-Translations-Defense-Deity-Christ/dp/0615366767/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1313947527&sr=1-3
richardghowe.com/richardghowe.html
evangelicalbible.com/jw.htm
google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&source=hp&q=court+testimony++new+world+translation&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=6b0bc32c2d61c508&biw=1024&bih=524
And, then there is the watchtower using a spiritualist to justifly their mistranslations, btw if you read the translation by the spiritualist it is basically the NWT in places related to the deity of christ.
google.com/#hl=en&xhr=t&q=watchtower+spiritualist&cp=23&qe=d2F0Y2h0b3dlciBzcGlyaXR1YWxpc3Q&qesig=NZPUyKJobAmEwmwq8BaPqQ&pkc=AFgZ2tnU7eggQRBJD4GQak4CQr9H6lzQAnAfpX3P8PPW6tnlToZWsPV19mbMRJ9YGYYc6ZtoJsIn2r7Htg15ZI9puBVSs1R0Kw&pq=watchtower%20grabber&pf=p&sclient=psy&source=hp&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=watchtower+spiritualist&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=6b0bc32c2d61c508&biw=1024&bih=524
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Big_Dummy
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let’s see your response to
An Abomination to the Lord
How the Watchtower Relied on a Spiritist’s Bible Translation
By Fr. Mitch Pacwa
catholic.com/thisrock/2000/0012fea4.asp
An Abomination to the Lord
How the Watchtower Relied on a Spiritist’s Bible Translation
By Fr. Mitch Pacwa
catholic.com/thisrock/2000/0012fea4.asp
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