Jesuit leaders pray at Hindu shrine

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Maybe they were also paying tribute to Hindus who worship Krishna.

There seems to be some similarities in the life of Jesus and Krishna.

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josephdavid said:
Maybe they were also paying tribute to Hindus who worship Krishna.

There seems to be some similarities in the life of Jesus and Krishna.

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Many Hindus, like this one, worship Jesus:
It’s difficult for us to neatly categorise Jesus, this lover of God, as a Christian or a Jew. He talked only of His Father and he was not enamoured of politics, religion or wealth as He experienced them. God’s service was His life, His love and his religion.
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Remember my Indian friend who loved Ishu “Ishu”, or “Isha”, being a Sanskrit form of “Jesus”, or “Yeshua”, or “Eshu”] so much? What about him? Was he a follower of Christ? Could he have a personal relationship with God? Would he have to “bathe in the blood of the Lamb” first (a terrible option for vegetarians)? These are important questions, though: “Can a Hindu follow Jesus?”; “Can a Hindu love God with all his heart and soul?”; “Do you have to be a Christian to follow Christ?”; even “Who owns Christ?”.
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The Sanskrit word acharya means ‘one who teaches by example’. For Hindus, Christ is an acharya. His example is a light to any of us in this world who want to take up the serious practice of spiritual life. His message is no different from the message preached in another time and place by Lord Krishna and Lord Chaitanya. It would be a great shame if we allowed our Hinduism, our Islam, our Judaism or indeed our Christianity to stand in the way of being able to follow the teachings and example of such a great soul as Lord Jesus Christ.
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ipwnuathalo said:
I think everyone here knows that the Indian Bishops’ conference is not the universal Magisterium. Thanks for playing.
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With all due respect, I will honor and follow whatever the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of India says over what you say about the actions of priests or religious, any day.
 
Stylites said:
With all due respect, I will honor and follow whatever the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of India says over what you say about the actions of priests or religious, any day.
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You would do better to follow the Truth and the teaching of the Church (i.e. Rome) rather than the opinion of a particular group. Just because they have a particular title does not mean all their actions are in line with the Truth. The only group/organization for which that is always true is Rome and only in matters of morals and theology; eg. just because JP II kissed a Quran does not necessarily make it right.

During St. Augustine’s time 40% of the bishops were Arianist heretics. The US Catholic Bishops conference does many questionable things. Just because they do this, does not make it in line with the Truth: tu quoque, ad populum.
 
thedavidwilson said:
You would do better to follow the Truth and the teaching of the Church (i.e. Rome) rather than the opinion of a particular group. Just because they have a particular title does not mean all their actions are in line with the Truth. The only group/organization for which that is always true is Rome and only in matters of morals and theology; eg. just because JP II kissed a Quran does not necessarily make it right.

During St. Augustine’s time 40% of the bishops were Arianist heretics. The US Catholic Bishops conference does many questionable things. Just because they do this, does not make it in line with the Truth: tu quoque, ad populum.
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So we are not to respect and tolerate other religions and cultures?

Could you point out in CCC and Magestarium writings which point out that the Popes have been in error on this subject?
 
Jesuits causing scandal is hardly news. 😦

But here’s the big unanswered question: To whom were they praying? :confused:
 
Seems to me it would be beneficial spiritually to bring Christ and Christianity into a Hindu shrine through prayer.
 
Good old JR Education, always on the side of heretics and apostates. As Jesus said narrow is path to Heaven while broad is the path to Hell.
 
Yah, maybe. Maybe not. Some of us are trying to understand the constant teaching of the Church on this matter throughout history. Some people just want to go crazy pants and all get together and smile on our borther and try to love one another right now, hey.

Good post on indifferentism above. I’ll bet $5 St. Francis understood indifferentism.
 
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Coleski said:
Good old JR Education, always on the side of heretics and apostates. As Jesus said narrow is path to Heaven while broad is the path to Hell.
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And you speak for Jesus? You are sinless? You are free from condemnation? Remember what Scripture says about being self-righteous.:tsktsk:
 
My gosh, this thread’s gotten hateful. What’s wrong with you people?
 
josephdavid said:
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And you speak for Jesus? You are sinless? You are free from condemnation? Remember what Scripture says about being self-righteous.:tsktsk:
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He is not speaking FOR Jesus, he is QUOTING Jesus.

Perhaps you should revisit the spiritual works of mercy:

The spiritual works of mercy are (newadvent.org/cathen/10198d.htm):🙂
Code: 
* To instruct the ignorant;
* To counsel the doubtful;
* ***To admonish sinners;***
* To bear wrongs patiently;
* To forgive offences willingly;
* To comfort the afflicted;
* To pray for the living and the dead.
God Bless!
 
josephdavid said:
So we are not to respect and tolerate other religions and cultures?

Could you point out in CCC and Magestarium writings which point out that the Popes have been in error on this subject?
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Tolerate is different than accepting false religions and beliefs as the Truth because we think it will build bridges. When we do this we lead ourselves astray and do a disservice to those who are trapped in those false beliefs. I believe what the Jesuits did and JP II did by kissing the quran, is to give the impression that the Hindu/islamic faith is acceptable to Catholics. They are not acceptable since they do not contain the fullness of the Truth. If we are truly concerned about the souls of non-believers we should be clear that their beliefs are false and show them what the Truth is. Love is to align your will with that which you love. To love God we should desire everyone to go to heaven. For this reason we should head the Athanasian Creed (newadvent.org/cathen/02033b.htm):🙂
  1. Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith;
  2. Which faith except every one do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly.
  3. And the catholic faith is this: That we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity;
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  1. So that in all things, as aforesaid, the Unity in Trinity and the Trinity in Unity is to be worshipped.
  2. He therefore that will be saved must thus think of the Trinity.
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  3. This is the catholic faith, which except a man believe faithfully he cannot be saved.
 
When you go into a Hindu shrine you are going into the house of that shrines particular god. If you pray there, to a Hindu, you would be praying to that god not to Jesus Christ. Hinduism is the ultimate expression of Paganism. There is a god for everything. Some Hindu gods like Kali are outright demonic. In the Bible the Jews constantly fell to worship of Pagan Gods as in Baal worship. Our parish had a priest from India who declared that Mahatma Grande was a Catholic saint. My constant impression was that he thought he was the one who decided what was true, what was the faith, and not the faith handed down through the ages, this priest remained in sprit a Hindu. He declared of Pope Benedict, that it was up to him a Catholic priest to decide if Benedict was worty to be Pope.

We live our faith by example, and with more than a billion Catholics in the world, it is not hard for one who wants to to find the faith. The danger is for these Jesuits is syncretism. It is not that some Indians become Catholic it is that some Jesuits become Hindus. Churches that go the way of ‘deep ecumenism’ i.e. universalist lose their identity as has the Anglican Church that now seems to stand for nothing in this nihilistic modern age.
 
thedavidwilson said:
Tolerate is different than accepting false religions and beliefs as the Truth because we think it will build bridges. When we do this we lead ourselves astray and do a disservice to those who are trapped in those false beliefs. I believe what the Jesuits did and JP II did by kissing the quran, is to give the impression that the Hindu/islamic faith is acceptable to Catholics. They are not acceptable since they do not contain the fullness of the Truth. If we are truly concerned about the souls of non-believers we should be clear that their beliefs are false and show them what the Truth is. Love is to align your will with that which you love. To love God we should desire everyone to go to heaven. For this reason we should head the Athanasian Creed (newadvent.org/cathen/02033b.htm):🙂
  1. Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith;
  2. Which faith except every one do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly.
  3. And the catholic faith is this: That we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity;
.
.
.
  1. So that in all things, as aforesaid, the Unity in Trinity and the Trinity in Unity is to be worshipped.
  2. He therefore that will be saved must thus think of the Trinity.
    .
    .
    .
  3. This is the catholic faith, which except a man believe faithfully he cannot be saved.
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And thus I believe all that but Scripture also says only God decides who enters the Kingdom of Heaven. Not you and not I. God told us to love one nother as we love Him.
 
Okay people its Dr. Matthew here with your suppertime medication. None of us can determine whether another has committed mortal sin, so quit using the Spiritual Works of Mercy. Was Jesus causing sin (scandal is still a sin) when he walked into a tax collector’s home where there was prostitutes and who knows what else was there.
 
canadianguy1143 said:
Okay people its Dr. Matthew here with your suppertime medication. None of us can determine whether another has committed mortal sin, so quit using the Spiritual Works of Mercy. Was Jesus causing sin (scandal is still a sin) when he walked into a tax collector’s home where there was prostitutes and who knows what else was there.
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Great point. I applaud you.
 
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