Jesus: 100% God and 100% Man

[dolphinlove]

So how can some one believe in clear contradictory stuff
and make it one of ur major belief.

so think about it frnd. and if some one can explain then kindly explain it too.

Peace.

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There is a whole thread dedicated to muslim woman explaining the trinity with many different ways of showing how the trinity works.
Why dont you go to that thread and read it. muslim woman doesnt have an open mind and cant really understand the concept of the trinity. It will be refreshing if we did get a muslim on here that could open their mind and understand the trinity for a change.

 

[Xiaahmad]

Dolphinlove:

Look this belief is different frm Trinity(althought It is contradictory too)

so thats why this is totally different thread

 

[ralphinal]

Either God, the Creator of Creation, can do as he wishes, or he is held bound by the rules of Creation that he Created.

Do you beleive that God must obey the rules of Creation?

 

[ncgolf]

So how can some one believe in clear contradictory stuff
and make it one of ur major belief.

so think about it frnd. and if some one can explain then kindly explain it too.

Peace.

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You hit on something very unique … Christians wonder about the being of their founder. We wonder unlike Muslims, who I do not believe, wonder about the nature and being of Mohammed. Buddhists do not worry about the being or nature of the Buddha. We, as Christians, wonder how a person who possesses an obvious human nature could also be God at the same time. How can we explain … or even understand this. It would seem that almost any other explanation would have been easier … more palatable … but the one where we say Jesus is both fully divine and fully human at the same time is used … and believed by Christians.

This understanding is not overtly obvious nor intuitive … to understand and accept the Incarnation, and everything that entails this truth is a gift.

 

[ENIYE]

Salam

I would like to ask my christian friends here to explain 100% God and 100% Man jesus belief

Xiaahmad

It is our belief as Christians that the Almighty God decided to reveal himself to us mortals. In his infinite wisdom, he chose a time, a place, and a people to do this. He also chose a form we can understand (100% Man) and a woman to be born of (Mary).

Now, God, that part of himself (2nd person of the trinity) which he allowed to be born of the virgin is Jesus Christ. Who we also believe is the same as God, because he came with authority and power. So must also be 100% God.

The interesting part is Why?
Why would God decide to reveal himself in this manner?

The answer is because of LOVE.

Imagine God looking down at our sins and is unhappy. We, who are supposed to be created by Him in his own image, have turned totally away from his plan for us. He cries, he sends Christ, to call our attention, to teach us, and finally as an act of Ultimate Love, to die for our sins. A sacrifice we can never forget, for us mortals and for our salvation.

Our religion would be meaningless if Jesus Christ was only 100% man, because other prophets had been killed for God’s sake. But Christ is more than just extra special, he is 100% God. Who existed even before the world and Mary.

My friend, I hope this helps.

Peace be with you.

Eniye

 

[Gottle_of_Geer]

So how can some one believe in clear contradictory stuff
and make it one of ur major belief.

so think about it frnd. and if some one can explain then kindly explain it too.

Peace.

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www.youtube.com/ozzycda

The Blessed Trinity is no more capable of being explained by the​

• limited
• feeble
• & sin-damaged
  minds of us who believe in this Reality, than a living lion could be crammed into language about one. Is the mention of Lot in the Koran identical with the man himself ? Who thinks that ? In a far more excellent manner, God exceeds all words & all thoughts about Him. To deny that, is to end in atheism or idolatry.

God cannot be reduced to the limits of our poverty-stricken intellects. Can God be crammed into the Koran ? Or do Muslims believe God is greater than the Koran ? What we respond to by believing it is infinitely mysterious - but it’s not a muddle of gibberish. To compare great things with small, there is a difference between saying that a piece of writing is utter gibberish, & saying it is written a language of which only part can be understood.

Well then - neither do we believe in a God Who is less than we are. So of course He is beyond our feeble words: how can He not be, if He is not to be a wretched little idol ? This God is Pure Spirit - not matter. And therefore, He does not occupy space - any more than a word does. If people can’t see this, that does not make our belief untrue - it is equally possible that such people are applying materialist ideas to the God Who is “beyond” matter.

 

[rinnie]

This is a hard one. The only thing I can think of is we are all made in the image of God. Human is all I can think of. To be human is women and man. I believe that is one no one can really answer, only God and he will answer when he want’s us to know I guess.

 

[ferdie]

CWBetts

Egg white shell are not fully Egg them self (like in trinity)

Some one posted that it should not be % ok fine (although that I use to hear most of the time )

make if fully God , Fully man.

so thing is it is clear that Fully God is contradictory with Fully Man

and Fully man is contradictory with Fully GOD.

I am not talking about something that cantbe understand but about a clear contradiction in Major belief.

Chancellare:

I gave the examples as well:

Fully GOD is Immortal Fully Man is Mortal
Fully GOD is all knowing FUlly Man is not
Fully GOD is not dependent Fully Man is
etc.

So it is SELF CONTRADICTORY so think about it frnd.

Peace

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Do muslims believe in miracles? Are there any miracles that happened in the muslim world?

 

[Chancellare]

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Chancellare:

I gave the examples as well:

Fully GOD is Immortal Fully Man is Mortal
Fully GOD is all knowing FUlly Man is not
Fully GOD is not dependent Fully Man is
etc.**

So it is SELF CONTRADICTORY so think about it frnd.

Peace

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First you have to accept that Fully God can become Fully Man.
Please let me know what is your objection with that.
Everything else will be easier from there.

 

[paarsurrey]

First you have to accept that Fully God can become Fully Man.
Please let me know what is your objection with that.
Everything else will be easier from there.

Kindly inform has have you ever seen a fully man and a fully monkey?

Thanks

 

[Blade_and_Blood]

Salam

I would like to ask my christian friends here to explain 100% God and 100% Man jesus belief as it is one of Major belief as far as I think.

coz what I see it is self contradictory:

100% Man contradicts with 100% God
and 100% God contradicts with 100% man.

How jesus was both? coz as far as i think christian believe he was both all the time not that sometimes just man and some times just God.

Hope to get sensible precise and clear answer

Regards,
Xiaahmad

Jesus Christ was born a human, yet, considering He is God the Son, He had the tools to become Divine. He just needed the human quality of “living and learning.”

Ironically Yours, Blade and Blood

 

[Angels_Unaware]

Kindly inform has have you ever seen a fully man and a fully monkey?

Thanks

This is not an accurate analogy, as I am sure you would agree that a monkey does not contain any attribute of deity, and God is more than simply another form of life.

Can God reproduce himself in any form he sees fit?

If not, then why not?

 

[paarsurrey]

Jesus: 100% God and 100% Man

Hi

To me it is a mythical mystery;not a real one.

Thanks

 

[Angels_Unaware]

Hi

To me it is a mythical mystery;not a real one.

Thanks

What if you wished to marry an ant. What would you do? It would not matter how much you professed your love. As soon as you moved in close to the ant to tell him that he was dear to your heart he would run in fear of being squished.

The only thing you could do to convince this ant of your love would be to become accessible to the ant. What more perfect way to become totally accessible, so that the ant could understand you fully and then decide if he wished to accept or reject your proposal, than to become an ant yourself?

 

[Chancellare]

Kindly inform has have you ever seen a fully man and a fully monkey?

Thanks

Ah, Argumentum ad Absurdum!
My friend, if you can’t imagine what Fully God can do, please don’t attempt to hide your misunderstanding by using monkey! There is no comparison.
Otherwise you don’t know what you are doing, and you are excused.

 

[Muslim_Woman]

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Salaam/peace

… muslim woman doesnt have an open mind …

I informed U about the latest ans I got from a Christian in the thread- 'Is Mary the mother of Trinity ’ ?

I asked if Mary (p) is daughter of the Father & Jesus (p) is son of the Father , how come they are not bro & sis ? Ans was like that Trinity is a mystery. So , if it’s a mystery to Christians , how can u expect that a very ordinary Muslim like me can understand it ?

I also asked Christians if you understand Hindu’s Trinity ? Did not get much reply . If u do , then it’s ok for you to complain against us ; If u can’t understand Hindu’s Trinity , then don’t blame us for not understanding the mystery.

 

[swariffin]

Hi

To me it is a mythical mystery;not a real one.

Thanks

Because you are thinking with human mind, not God’s mind. See Genesis 3:15, look at the context, and tell me if you can see things between the line.

 

[swariffin]

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Salaam/peace

I informed U about the latest ans I got from a Christian in the thread- 'Is Mary the mother of Trinity ’ ?

I asked if Mary (p) is daughter of the Father & Jesus (p) is son of the Father , how come they are not bro & sis ? Ans was like that Trinity is a mystery. So , if it’s a mystery to Christians , how can u expect that a very ordinary Muslim like me can understand it ?

I also asked Christians if you understand Hindu’s Trinity ? Did not get much reply . If u do , then it’s ok for you to complain against us ; If u can’t understand Hindu’s Trinity , then don’t blame us for not understanding the mystery.

Why Deity has to do with Father vs Mother, Male vs Female, Brother vs Sister. Father, Mother, Male, Female, Brother, Sister are terminology applied to human, not to God. You cannot apply human terminology to God. What do you think of the gender of God, tell me.

 

[swariffin]

This is not an accurate analogy, as I am sure you would agree that a monkey does not contain any attribute of deity, and God is more than simply another form of life.

Can God reproduce himself in any form he sees fit?

If not, then why not?

Fully man and fully monkey. That is Sun Go Kong. But, it is nothing to do with Christianity.

 

[paarsurrey]

Originally Posted by paarsurrey:

To me it is a mythical mystery;not a real one.

What if you wished to marry an ant.

Hi

Have you ever wished to marry an ant? I don’t think it is a sensible thing to imagine or think of; a queer think. Cant you find a girl as your legitimate wife from your own species, who has the same feelings for you as you have?

Thanks