Jesus,a black man, really?

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Wow. The thing that struck me most about this thread is not about His color but about this claim that He only came for the tribe of Judah. :confused:

I really don’t care what color He was. Race is only an illusion anyway.

Who teaches that Jesus only came for the tribe of Judah though?
 
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ccav:
I don’t care if He was green, He is still my Lord and my God.
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Amen CCAV.

I think the original statement in the original post reflects Marcus Garvey’s assertions that led to Rastafarianism. The Ethiopian Imperial Family do indeed trace their lieneage back to an illicit relationship between King Solomon and the Queen of Sheba, who according to legend returned pregnant to Abyssinia from Jerusalem. One of the titles of the Emperor of Ethiopia is “The Lion of Judah” It is based soley on that legend, there is nothing in Scriture to confirm it.

Almost all of the returning exiles from Babylon after the destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar, almost all of them were from the Kingdom of Judah, the tribes of Judah and Benjamin. The Northern Tribes, Kingdom of Israel, exiled by the Assyrians, had melted nto the surrounding nations, becoming the “10 Lost Tribes” our Mormon friends rave about. Our word “Jew” comes from the name “Judea” the province that the returning exiles set up. It is safe to say that the bulk of our Jewish Friends are members of the Tribe of Judah.
 
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Socrates:
Wow. The thing that struck me most about this thread is not about His color but about this claim that He only came for the tribe of Judah. :confused:

I really don’t care what color He was. Race is only an illusion anyway.

Who teaches that Jesus only came for the tribe of Judah though?
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~cough~typo~cough~:p I think we all see that the first poster meant “from”, not “for”
 
“Caucasian” no longer refers to the Caucasus mountains. It is an old designation that served anthropologists well until the recent “shrinking” of the planet which has come about through advanced technology. People groups are blending at an unprecedented rate and the old designations are difficult to maintain.

In the old days, anthropologists identified three major groups: Caucasioid, Mongoloid, and Negroid. By that system, Jesus belonged to the first group.

“Caucasian” doesn’t mean “light-skinned.” It refers to a people of common ancestry. Race is not essentially a matter of appearance, but of closeness of relation. And, as SedesDomi pointed out, people of mixed ancestry don’t fall into the traditional classifications.

The “Jesus was black” ideology, usually a part of afrocentrism, has also alleged that St. Paul was a Negro, and that God himself is Negroid: after all, didn’t Daniel see him with hair like wool? (I’m NOT making this up.)

As Fidelis said, it’s bad exegesis.
 
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Churchmouse:
You’re co-worker is wrong. Jesus was one of those smooth tanned fellows. Yup, Jesus was a Puerto Rican :whistle: http://www.nesc.k12.ar.us/PHS/bused/faculty/Foreign/maracas animated.gif http://www.nesc.k12.ar.us/PHS/bused/faculty/Foreign/maracas animated.gif

Peace,
CM
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Actually from a person who’s ethnic group is from Puerto Rico, I suggest you study a little more on the ETHNIC ANCESTRIES WITHIN THE US TERRITORY OF PUERTO RICO, Because in Puerto Rico you can find many who have Dutch, Spanish, Italian backgrounds, and there are many blond haired, blue eyed Puerto Ricans on that US Island. Now, Jesus can be from India, and be TAN colored. Or from Iceland, and be an albino?
 
The Dead Bishop:
Jesus was Jewish, I guess that’s tan colored skin, huh?
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My best friend is Jewish and is very pale…not tan…as are her Israeli cousins. My Jewish neighbors are also pale…not tanned. I think it depends.
 
Whether Jesus was black or not is not knowable and in any case irrelevant.

Anyhow, all of us are Africans by descent; it is only that some of us left Africa and headed for Europe, Asia and more distant places a few tens of thousands of years ago.
 
My best friend is Jewish and is very pale…not tan…as are her Israeli cousins. My Jewish neighbors are also pale…not tanned. I think it depends.
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She’s likely an Azkenazi Jew, a Jew of Northern/Eastern European extraction. They are much more European in appearance than the Sephardim and Mizrahim (the Mediteranean and Middle-Eastern Jews). The Mizrahim in particular never moved from the region of their origin, and likely bear the same general appearance as the Jews of the time of Jesus.
 
I like to think dark tan-He came for all men darkest to lightest, his color is in the middle showing no favoritism to one side or the other.
 
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misericordie:
Actually from a person who’s ethnic group is from Puerto Rico, I suggest you study a little more on the ETHNIC ANCESTRIES WITHIN THE US TERRITORY OF PUERTO RICO, Because in Puerto Rico you can find many who have Dutch, Spanish, Italian backgrounds, and there are many blond haired, blue eyed Puerto Ricans on that US Island. Now, Jesus can be from India, and be TAN colored. Or from Iceland, and be an albino?
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Actually, I was kidding and I’m very familiar with the Puerto Rican people. I should be considering “que yo soy Borinqueno tambien.” Born in Moca, P.R. (Nena, no se por que me haces sentir tan y tan malo 😦 ). I know we’re a commonwealth and I’m very familiar with the ethnic make-up of “la isla”, but the sun has a funny habit of being the great equalizer, making us all “triguenitos” :yup:

Paz,
CM
 
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faithbound:
A co-worker said to me that Jesus only came for the tribe of Judah and that Jesus was a black man. Apparently the tribe of Judah people are all of a black color. :eek:
I really don’t see what color has to do with Jesus’ teachings in the first place.
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He probably was in between like many of the middle easterns are today.
 
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siamesecat:
My best friend is Jewish and is very pale…not tan…as are her Israeli cousins. My Jewish neighbors are also pale…not tanned. I think it depends.
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I agree. Anyone??? Does the Shroud of Turin shed any light on this???
Also, what have the caononized saints and DOCTORS and FATHERS of the Church have said when Christ has appeared to them. Examples of APPROVED apparitions: The Sacred Heart to Saint Margaret Mary, The Lord of Divine Mercy to Saint Faustina?? The CHURCH has MANY documented saints who have SEEN Jesus Christ. (I don’t just say “Jesus” I add His Divinity too and say Jesus Christ.
 
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misericordie:
Does the Shroud of Turin shed any light on this???
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Who cares?

The continuance of this thread suggests that it is important what racial characteristics were demonstrated in Jesus’ appearance - a consideration that can only seem to be of import to buoy someone’s opinion that Jesus looking as they looked gives credence to a superiority of one racial or ethnic group over another - a sinful opinion to give oneself over to!!

Many years,

Neil
 
I thought that Jesus, with his glorified body could appear to anyone any way He chooses? Mary appeared to Juan Diego as an indian princess.
 
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Minerva:
I’ve seen the mosaic at the Immaculate Conception and really don’t care for it, precisely because it is blond and unbearded, like a Roman deity. Also he looks scary!
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I"ve thought that one of my favorites–eyes blazingly awake, no sleeping/dozing Buddha here—and the Pancrator (King of All) should inspire awe
 
this thread illustrates well the fallacy of using generic words like black, caucasion, semite to describe artificially created “races”. Race is a modern cultural construct created by economists and anthropologists to differentiate population groups in order to justify spurious social theories like genetic determinism. the misuse of these terms in this thread shows how blatant our prejudices can become. the “black Jesus” theory is part of the afro-centric approach to teaching history that became popular in the last 30 years, and has so thoroughly discredited public school systems (like Detroit and Cleveland) that adopted it. A popular catalog put out by monks who create icons has a picture of a “ethnically correct” Jesus and Mary, created by computer using images of modern day middle eastern Jews. by coincidence, I had it in my hand when the newspaper published photos of the FBI’s most-wanted Islamic terrorist after 9/11. The images of Jesus and the terrorist were nearly identical.
 
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Churchmouse:
You’re co-worker is wrong. Jesus was one of those smooth tanned fellows. Yup, Jesus was a Puerto Rican :whistle: http://www.nesc.k12.ar.us/PHS/bused/faculty/Foreign/maracas animated.gif http://www.nesc.k12.ar.us/PHS/bused/faculty/Foreign/maracas animated.gif

Peace,
CM
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misericordie:
Actually from a person who’s ethnic group is from Puerto Rico, I suggest you study a little more on the ETHNIC ANCESTRIES WITHIN THE US TERRITORY OF PUERTO RICO, Because in Puerto Rico you can find many who have Dutch, Spanish, Italian backgrounds, and there are many blond haired, blue eyed Puerto Ricans on that US Island. Now, Jesus can be from India, and be TAN colored. Or from Iceland, and be an albino?
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It was a joke son, just a joke. Lighten up 🙂
 
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