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Sam_777
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Cursing a single (Soul free) fig tree is much better than cursing all the Jews, Christians, and people using tattoos.
(Quran 05:78):
“Curses were pronounced on those among the Children of Israel who rejected Faith, by the tongue of Dawud and of 'Isa, the son of Maryam, because they disobeyed and persisted in Excesses.”
**Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 56, Number 666: **
“I heard 'Umar saying, "May Allah Curse so-and-so! Doesn’t he know that the Prophet said, 'May Allah curse the Jews for, though they were forbidden (to eat) fat, they liquefied it and sold it.”
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**Sahih Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 72, Number 706: **
“When the disease of Allah’s Apostle got aggravated, he covered his face with a Khamisa, but when he became short of breath, he would remove it from his face and say, “It is like that! May Allah curse the Jews Christians because they took the graves of their prophets as places of worship.” By that he warned his follower of imitating them, by doing that which they did.”
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**Sahih Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 72, Number 815: **
“Allah has cursed those women who practise tattooing and those who get themselves tattooed, and those who remove their face hairs, and those who create a space between their teeth artificially to look beautiful, and such women as change the features created by Allah. Why then should I not curse those whom the Prophet has cursed? And that is in Allah’s Book. i.e. His Saying: 'And what the Apostle gives you take it and what he forbids you abstain (from it).’”
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dolphinlove
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inJESUS
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very fishy claim… in order to cover up his mistakes, Muhammad invented such claim just as he invented the abrogation claim.
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Lance
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My wife was 22 when we married and Jesus never married, not 9 like mohammid’s, so we don’t meet the pedophile standard. I did not start a false religion. How do you know I am a war monger, I have never killed anyone, unlike mohammid. I never attacked you personally because it is against forum rules. One more outburst like this and you will be reported to the forum admins.
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Dear Brother and Sisters,
I do understand your points and your oppositions to Planten’s posting, as well as the Islamic Theology he presented. I would like to invite all of us to reconsider how Planten has made his contributions and sharing to all of us. All of us has been challenged by Planten to understand our own bible, and we have learn (at least know) something from him too. Whether what he brings is valuable or not, is a different matter I believe. But, the most important thing, I believe that we need somebody from the other side of our believe such Planten. At least, we can have a good an interesting discussion with him, and make this forum alive.
I do understand your points and your oppositions to Planten’s posting, as well as the Islamic Theology he presented. I would like to invite all of us to reconsider how Planten has made his contributions and sharing to all of us. All of us has been challenged by Planten to understand our own bible, and we have learn (at least know) something from him too. Whether what he brings is valuable or not, is a different matter I believe. But, the most important thing, I believe that we need somebody from the other side of our believe such Planten. At least, we can have a good an interesting discussion with him, and make this forum alive.
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Charlie_Zeaiter
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Why? What’s so special about the Qur’an?
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planten
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You are all abusing Muhammad here in this forum. I have seen a film recently in which it is proved that Jesus was married and he had some secrte affair with a lady and he had a son too. Did I mention that aspect of Jesus here. Did I ever abuse Jesus? But all of you have done it as a habit and all your abuse goes to Jesus first. Do I care for your false religion which is so complicated that you do not understand it yourself.
If you are so interested in not having me here, I will not post here any more.But that will prove your falsehood and weakness and wickedness. That is all. I have always welcomed fair discussion. But it appears that you have all failed to bring up anything sensible or useful. There is only abuse. Why? Because you have no reply, no sensible reply. You have come upto your necks now. Why don’t you carry on decent lovable discussion. You speak so much of love. Where is your love? Go ahead. I will only come back to check up your reply. So do give some reply. I had not abused you. I don’t know who you are. But it appears that you are alsosome nasty person, very old member of this forum. Being a senior most member, you should have some rights. So enjoy.
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planten
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I had to bring back your abusive post (see above) your good and lovely language. That is just to remind you. You believe what you like but do not spill your bad ideas here. I would like to know if you are a christian and you love Jesus or not? Would you like to hear that Jesus birth was illegitimate. Unless Joseph was his biological father. Tell me. That is only for your example. I am sure you would not like to read such things on this forum. So I as a muslim do not like to read such things against any prophet of god. He may be Moses or Jesus or Muhammad. Simple as that.
You had accused Muhammad for telling lies. Please see your post, you being such a senior member could do such a thing. But thanks anyway.
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Charlie_Zeaiter
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That’s not fair.
We’ve brought up quotes from the Qur’an and Hadith. It is out of our control if they are not sensible or useful.
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Charlie_Zeaiter
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But muslims believe in his virgin birth too.
If you think his birth is illegitimate, so be it. I’m just glad that you believe in his virgin birth.
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dolphinlove
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We have been over these things so many times with you its really not funny anymore.
You accuse Jesus of lying, you deny his divinity, to us this is an insult against Jesus. Muhammed denies the very things that make Christianity so great about it and what makes it Gods true path to salvation and truth. For example, to take away what Jesus did for us destroys the whole Christian faith, and there is nothing more than the devil would like to see happen than to take this away.
There are many more examples of Jesus’ teaching that is taken away in Islam, that is why we find your prophet truly insulting.
Yet, Muslims want Christians to acknowledge Muhammed, they even asked the Vatican to do this, and of course, the answer will ALWAYS be a big fat NO, there is no way Muhammed will ever be acknowledged. This is because he is a false prophet who took away what Jesus really did for us, taught us and displayed how we should truly live.
You find anything we say against him will be insulting, that is a fact from your perspective, but dont forget, its insulting to us what you call Jesus as well.
Planten, we have shown you many times now the teachings of Jesus, but you reject everything and/or do not really understand or look at the meaning of it. I still pray for you to open your heart to our teachings and also open your mind.
We do love you Planten, its your beliefs we do not love.
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Sam_777
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Excuse me planten, I think you’re way off base there
, here is what Quran says:(Quran 04:171):
“… A Messenger of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Maryam, and a Spirit proceeding from Him…”
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dolphinlove
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I still (and im not being insulting here) Planten does not understand Christian teachings. Planten just needs to learn to open his/her heart and mind to Jesus.Excuse me planten, I think you’re way off base there
(Quran 04:171):
“… A Messenger of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Maryam, and a Spirit proceeding from Him…”
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