Jesus' Second Coming has taken place

[paarsurrey]

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I believe Jesus was never a god who became man

Originally Posted by Jay53:
I have an off topic question - what is this “Second Coming 1835-1908” Is this a person? time period? I’m just confused because I can’t figure it out based on the different contexts in which it has been used. Thank you.

Originally Posted by Paarsurrey:

Hi

Jesus’ Second Coming has taken place in the symbolic form of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908, like Elijah’s second coming took place in the symbolic form of John the Baptist, and it was acceptable to Jesus. Elijah did not come from the skies or heaven for second coming before Jesus as was prophesized but John the Baptist was declared as Elijah by Jesus.

I think it helps

I love Jesus

Thanks

 

[narrowpath]

This “renincarnation” type of Second Coming was never even thought of until the Millerite (and similar other) movements in the 18th centuries. When Christ returns, we will know because He will judge the nations.

 

[Jay53]

Are you saying Elijah was reincarnated as John the Baptist?

 

[paarsurrey]

Are you saying Elijah was reincarnated as John the Baptist?

Hi

I don’t believe any body is incarnate of anybody; there is no incarnation. It is symbolic to denote the similarity of two persosn in qualities.

I love Jesus

Thanks

 

[cathopologist]

I wanted to give you a response but decided i’m better off watching paint dry. Maybe Armageddon will commence as soon as it dries.

 

[FightingFat]

paarsurrey, I think you’re a nice person, but your own Muslim brothers think you’re wrong, what makes you think you can convince Catholics?

Rastafarians believe that Jesus has come again as well, Benjamin Creme believes he is here now. What makes you think you’re right and these other people are wrong? Where’s your authority?

 

[paarsurrey]

paarsurrey, I think you’re a nice person, but your own Muslim brothers think you’re wrong, what makes you think you can convince Catholics?

Rastafarians believe that Jesus has come again as well, Benjamin Creme believes he is here now. What makes you think you’re right and these other people are wrong? Where’s your authority?

Hi

I have accepted the truthful Second Coming 1835-1908, and I have no doubt; may be you have not yet, so you have a choice to verify one amongst these. It is for you now to come into action. I don’t mind if you become a “Rastafarians” or "Benjamin Creme " or a Mormon or a JW or a Protestant or a Hindu; for me you will remain a human being. I won’t hate you. I love all human beings.

I love Jesus and Muhammad

Thanks

 

[Cluny]

Are you saying Elijah was reincarnated as John the Baptist?

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Elijah never died, if you will recall.

Reincarnation says that after you die, you get a new body later.

paarsurrey knows nothing about Christianity, as his posts on the subject show.

 

[paarsurrey]

Are you saying Elijah was reincarnated as John the Baptist?

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Elijah never died, if you will recall.

Reincarnation says that after you die, you get a new body later.

paarsurrey knows nothing about Christianity, as his posts on the subject show.

Hi

I don’t believe in any incarnation.

I believe in Jesus and that is the true Christianity in my opinion. I don’t believe in weird concepts of Paul; and there is no need for that. St.Thomas never believed in Paul . Was he a Christian or he was not a Christian in your opinion? Just tell me in plain language.

I love Jesus and Muhammad

Thanks

 

[Cluny]

I believe in Jesus and that is the true Christianity in my opinion.

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Since you link Jesus with Muhammed, Buddha, and Krishna, that means you don’t believe in the REAL Jesus, so your opinion doesn’t really matter.

 

[doughnut]

Hi

I don’t believe in any incarnation.

I believe in Jesus and that is the true Christianity in my opinion. I don’t believe in weird concepts of Paul; and there is no need for that. St.Thomas never believed in Paul . Was he a Christian or he was not a Christian in your opinion? Just tell me in plain language.

I love Jesus and Muhammad

Thanks

im not sure why you’re so against Paul. there was absolutely no benefit for him to become Christian so why should there be so many doubts on what he did? Psychologically, men are only willing to die for a truth ~ the only alternative logical explanation for his behavior was that he’s raving mad. If that is the case, his works would have reflected and that any psychiatrist would easily evaluated that out. If he isn’t mad, then he must have been telling the truth. I thought that isn’t too hard to understand?

Same goes with all the eye-witnesses of the death and ressurection of Jesus Christ. There simply cannot be a “mass-lunacy” that occured right back there can it? It is more sensible for me to believe that Jesus died and was ressurected.

 

[FightingFat]

Hi

I have accepted the truthful Second Coming 1835-1908, and I have no doubt; may be you have not yet, so you have a choice to verify one amongst these. It is for you now to come into action. I don’t mind if you become a “Rastafarians” or "Benjamin Creme " or a Mormon or a JW or a Protestant or a Hindu; for me you will remain a human being. I won’t hate you. I love all human beings.

I love Jesus and Muhammad

Thanks

How does your lack of doubt qualify the validity of your claim any more than any of these other sects?

 

[FightingFat]

Hi

I don’t believe in any incarnation.

I believe in Jesus and that is the true Christianity in my opinion. I don’t believe in weird concepts of Paul; and there is no need for that. St.Thomas never believed in Paul . Was he a Christian or he was not a Christian in your opinion? Just tell me in plain language.

I love Jesus and Muhammad

Thanks

Forget Paul, everything he asserts (which is merely he kerygma) is evident in the synoptic gospels and unambiguously in John!

 

[paarsurrey]

I wanted to give you a response but decided i’m better off watching paint dry. Maybe Armageddon will commence as soon as it dries.

Hi

Maybe Armageddon is already on. It is with reason, rationality and good arguments.

I love Jesus and Muhammad.

Thanks

 

[ricko]

Paul is/was a Christian. The Second Coming has not occured. When it happens even you will know it.

 

[narrowpath]

amen. why does St. Paul always get such a bad rap…?

 

[paarsurrey]

Paul is/was a Christian. The Second Coming has not occured. When it happens even you will know it.

Hi

I already know that it has happened, in my opinion.

I love Jesus and Muhammad.

Thanks

 

[FightingFat]

in my opinion.

Precisely.

 

[paarsurrey]

The Second Coming has not occured. When it happens even you will know it.

Hi

I know, he has come, in my opinion ; that is why i am telling you.

I love Jesus and Second Coming 1835-1908

Thanks

 

[ronyodish]

Jesus’ Second Coming has taken place

Matthew 24:

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[3] As he sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will this be, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the close of the age?”
[4] And Jesus answered them, "Take heed that no one leads you astray.
[5] For many will come in my name, saying, `I am the Christ,’ and they will lead many astray.

[23] Then if any one says to you, Lo, here is the Christ!' or There he is!’ do not believe it.
[24] For false Christs and false prophets will arise and show great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.
[25] Lo, I have told you beforehand.​

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is a false christ and false prophet. Jesus warned us ahead of time not to believe in these false prophets. Paarsurrey seems to be unaware that he is fulfilling the words of Jesus, by promoting one of the false prophets whom Jesus warned us against.

Here is the picture of the false christ and false prophet:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/53/Hadhrat_Mirza_Ghulam_Ahmad.jpg

I love Jesus and I will defend Him against the false christ and false prophet by the name of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, and I will also defend Jesus against those who promote the false prophets.

God bless,

Rony