Jesus' Soul

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In my parish there is a morning Rosary that takes place everyday, a very good thing! There has been something that has bothered me for awhile that concerns it. Whenever we say the sorrowful mysteries the same person leads them and uses these gross meditations for each bead; such as for the wound on his should for carrying our punishment, or the wound in his left foot, or the wound in his side and so on. Now I do not argue that one can call to mind things to meditate on but this person goes a little far, so far that one of the bead meditations is “for the greatest wound, the wound in your soul that our sins caused.” This always gets me because it does not sound right. Obviously his body was wounded for our faults but was his soul?

I don’t know if this person’s meditation has gone too far or if he is dogmatically legit. Can someone point me in the right direction on this.
 
Maybe you could volunteer to lead a decade.

Jesus did and does have a Soul, the Soul is the animating force of the body. His Spirit can indeed be wounded, insofar as an incorporeal entity can be wounded, and our sins do that.
 
Spirithound said:
Maybe you could volunteer to lead a decade.

Jesus did and does have a Soul, the Soul is the animating force of the body. His Spirit can indeed be wounded, insofar as an incorporeal entity can be wounded, and our sins do that.
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Maybe I do, way to be presumptuous. I know what the soul is. I know it animates us and is the form of the person just as the body is the matter. Does sin wound our souls, certainly. Sin can damage or kill off the life of grace in us, sometimes leaving us spiritually dead.

However, would not Christ be wounded in a different way if he had been or am I to take it that he lost his participation in the Divine Life that sanctifying grace gives once he took all sin upon himself? Where do we find it talked about that His soul was wounded just like ours’ are when we sin?
 
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Maybe I do, way to be presumptuous. I know what the soul is. I know it animates us and is the form of the person just as the body is the matter. Does sin wound our souls, certainly. Sin can damage or kill off the life of grace in us, sometimes leaving us spiritually dead.

However, would not Christ be wounded in a different way if he had been or am I to take it that he lost his participation in the Divine Life that sanctifying grace gives once he took all sin upon himself? Where do we find it talked about that His soul was wounded just like ours’ are when we sin?
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I meant maybe you could volunteer for a Sorrowful Mystery, thus pre-empting these meditations that distress you so.

This is an interesting topic. Jesus did have a human soul, so presumably it could be wounded in the same way that anyone else’s could be, but as you pointed out, as God, He is the very definition of Divine Life. So, He must not have lost His participation in the Divine Life, right? By way of a metaphor, maybe it’s like subtracting 3 from infinity.
 
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This is an interesting topic. Jesus did have a human soul,
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This bothers me too. If He was born fully human and fully divine, then He should have been born with original sin, no? Yet we are taught that He was sinless. How does that happen?
 
Namesake said:
This bothers me too. If He was born fully human and fully divine, then He should have been born with original sin, no? Yet we are taught that He was sinless. How does that happen?
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To be human does not mean that one has to sin. Sin is an evil, a privation of good, and there could not be any evil that coexists with one who is fully Divine. It would be a contradiction, a paradox, and Christ would not be God. Yet we know that he became sin for us when he took upon himself all our sins. My question is whether or not his soul was wounded like our souls get wounded by of sin.
 
Namesake said:
This bothers me too. If He was born fully human and fully divine, then He should have been born with original sin, no? Yet we are taught that He was sinless. How does that happen?
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Because Original Sin was not in the Original Specs. When we don’t sin, we are becoming more human, and when we get to Heaven, we will have fulfilled our Humanity, while being sinless.
 
Spirithound said:
Because Original Sin was not in the Original Specs. When we don’t sin, we are becoming more human, and when we get to Heaven, we will have fulfilled our Humanity, while being sinless.
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I guess I don’t understand. I thought humans are all born with the sin of Adam, no?
 
Namesake said:
So then, fully human is out, no?
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Hebrews 4:13-14 And before him no creature is hidden, but all are open and laid bare to the eyes of him with whom we have to do. Since then we have a great high priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus, the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession.

Luke 1:31-36 And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus. He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Most High; and the Lord God will give to him the throne of his father David, and he will reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there will be no end." And Mary said to the angel, “How shall this be, since I have no husband?” And the angel said to her, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; therefore the child to be born will be called holy, the Son of God. And behold, your kinswoman Elizabeth in her old age has also conceived a son; and this is the sixth month with her who was called barren.

Mary did not conceive and give birth to a thing but a child. Humans beget humans. Our lord was fully human. He came from a fully human mother. It is just that not only was He fully human, He was fully Divine; for he was not conceived in a natural way but a supernatural way (this the angel explains to Mary).

The fact that neither of them had sin makes their humanity perfect because that is the way God made man - without sin. It was not until the devil deceived our first parents that sin entered the world.
 
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