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So you claim, but we disagree.
Because it is Mohammed you follow and not Jesus.
Mohammed kissed and petted the black stone did he not?
Jesus did not, so why are you rejecting Jesus?
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Because it is Mohammed you follow and not Jesus.
Mohammed kissed and petted the black stone did he not?
Jesus did not, so why are you rejecting Jesus?
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Hamba,
It is most important for you to realize that islamic monotheism is islamic.
It is not the monotheism of the Hebrew Bible.
It is a twisted version of judaic monotheism, and the single cause of all the misery of the ummah.
It is because of this twisted concept of tawheed, that islam fails when judaism succeeds.
Strangely enough on the face of it, you may say - its the same thing!
But when you dig deeper, you realize that islamic monotheism sows the seeds of division and hate.
It is truely a dangerous teaching, just bear that in mind.
It is most important for you to realize that islamic monotheism is islamic.
It is not the monotheism of the Hebrew Bible.
It is a twisted version of judaic monotheism, and the single cause of all the misery of the ummah.
It is because of this twisted concept of tawheed, that islam fails when judaism succeeds.
Strangely enough on the face of it, you may say - its the same thing!
But when you dig deeper, you realize that islamic monotheism sows the seeds of division and hate.
It is truely a dangerous teaching, just bear that in mind.
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hamba2han
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Here is a Jewish perspective on “ethical monotheism”:
Ethical monotheism means two things:
- There is one God from whom emanates one morality for all humanity.
- God’s primary demand of people is that they act decently toward one another.
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RockyRoad
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Hamba Hamba Hamba…when are you going to address my posts? I’ve got to figure you have no leg to stand on if you don’t.
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elwill
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where is valuable post writeen by you which need any responds ?
i searched all your post back to page five ? and i found nothing
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RockyRoad
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there you have it elwill.
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elwill
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then ? this is you beliefs
what do you expect from us to say
"you are wrong , mohammed is a prophet of God " , is that answer will satisfy you ?
we follow jesus becuase we can’t to be straight muslims without believing in jesus (pbuh) . he is part of our beliefs and he is mentioned in our quran whither you like it or not . we have the rights to say that we follwing jesus (pbuh)
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RockyRoad
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No…Hamba says that muslims follow Jesus and Christians do not. Christ is the Son of God. The Word made Flesh. The Great I Am. You do not follow him.
Also the fallacious argument against eating pork is just that. Nonsense. As Jesus said there is nothing that goes into you that makes you unclean. It is what comes from your heart and mouth that makes you unclean. You blaspheme against Jesus…then claim to follow him.
No…Mo was not a prophet of God. He denied God.
If you followed Jesus one iota then there would be no fatwas against those that disagree with you. There would be no suicide bombings against innocent people. There would be no 9/11. You don’t follow Jesus in the least way.
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elwill
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was jesus talking about food in this verse ?
i can accept our differs , but saying that mohammed (pbuh) denied God means that he was athiest , was he athiest ?
or did you mean that mohammed (pbuh) denied the divinity of jesus ? it will be more realistic
yes , i don’t think that 9/11 is teaching of jesus ( pbuh) , nor mohammed (pbuh) . actually most muslims not agree with what happened in 9/11 . is that make them follower for jesus (pbuh)
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RockyRoad
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If you followed Jesus you would follow His words and followers. The people who lived with Him and walked the earth with Him. You do not. You take the word of a man who knew nothing of Jesus and was a heretic.
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RockyRoad
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Yes he was talking about food and everything else. Read the bible.
Mo was a heretic. There are many who believe in a false god.
9/11 is a teaching of mo and his allah. Read the koran.
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RockyRoad
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Matthew 15:11
Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man: but what cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.
That applies to anything. Including the murderous hate the Mo preached when he didn’t get his way. Jesus never preached hate.
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qwerk
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Why is it that Muslims depend on the Jews and Christians in order to justify Islam?
Whether you like it or not, that Jesus in your Quran doesn’t even come close to the truth of what He is. We are not bound by your Quran and whatever character Muhammad made up. You can call him Jesus, or Tom, or Dick or Harry - it is a character that Muhammad made up and put the name of Jesus on him so Muhammad could justify his own agenda.
And he did this with the other Old Testament prophets too.
The Quran comes out of nowhere, and it is mostly about the unbelievers and how they are to be (mis)treated depending on Muhammad’s moods. When Muhammad thought people might swallow Islam, he was peaceful. When he found out that they rejected it, and Muhammad became angry then Muhammad, oops I mean Allah, became angry. Islam couldn’t stand on its own so he had to steal from other religions.
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elwill
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yes , he neve preach hate , may God bless him
and i hope to not feel hateness from you either toward muslims and islam
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qwerk
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You hope not to feel hatred and you know that we are not taught that so you can slither away from the teachings of Muhammad that do indeed teach hatred. It reminds me of people repeating the same stuff and hoping it becomes a fact. Well the reverse is true too. Denying what is there doesn’t make it disappear. It is a fact that Muhammad taught whatever it takes to win for Islam is halal. The whole premise of Islam is immoral because it forces people to deceive others about its true intentions, Jihad, to kill or subjugate us if we don’t answer the call to Islam.yes , he neve preach hate , may God bless him
and i hope to not feel hateness from you either toward muslims and islam
“Allah:”
“I will cast terror into the hearts of those who
disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads
and strike off every fingertip of them.”
(Qur’an 8:12)
Muhammad:
“Fight everyone in the way of Allah and
kill those who disbelieve in Allah.”
(Ibn Ishaq 992)
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RockyRoad
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I certainly do not feel hatred toward you.yes , he neve preach hate , may God bless him
and i hope to not feel hateness from you either toward muslims and islam
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RockyRoad
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That’s true. Since there has been no proselytizing going on by Christians on muslims…perhaps we should start trying. It might work. Jesus is always looking for a way to bring people to Him.
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Ethical Monotheism is contrary to the position of islam.
Islam states that ethics are subjective, therefore the slaying of 600 jewish POWs was justified and in the defence of God.
Let me ask you this, were those jews polytheists? what was the justification for their slaughter?
It does no such thing, the Bible does not support war with people based on their acceptance or rejection of YHWH.
The reason for this is plain, the Torah is silent on the gods of other peoples.
Are you going to tell me that people who believed in Baal alone and not partnered with anyone else are not monotheists?
The Quran however has set an eternal barrier between muslims and everyone else.
The reason for this is because the Quran explicitly condemns the beliefs of others.
There is a very fine line between judaism and islam, and in this I suspect a great evil force.
The line is this - YHWH forbids adherents from worshipping implicitly false gods. There is in this an implicit condemnation of goy beliefs, but is limited to restricting a jew from accepting the practice of a goy.
Islam on the other hand explicitly states that people who do not worship Allah are transgressors and worthy of punishment because Allah is the only god.
Thus rendering muslims in a constant state of war with all others.
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seraphime2008
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Well, i supposed the muslim claim that the Jew have made Ezra as the Son of God, thus performing shirk (associating partner with Allah)…!
Muslim apologist would say that the slaying of those Jews were also justified since they betrayed and made allegiance with the enemy of Muh from behind.
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