Jesus was an only son.. Mary did not have more children!!

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Really? We have proven, conclusively, that:
Any named 'brother of Christ" was not a child of Mary.
There is no mention of any ‘brethren’ when they return from Egypt, or when Jesus,Mary and Joseph ‘went up to Jerusalem’ when Jesus was 12. If Jesus was 12 then, where are all those brothers and sisters? Only Mary and Joseph go back to look for Him. . .
IF Jesus had a brother, Jewish law would require that on His death as the ‘oldest son’, Mary be taken into the house of the next oldest brother. For a person to give custody of the mother to any BUT the next of kin brother would be considered a slap in the face, a breach of law so profound as to require lengthy explanation as to why the brother ‘could not’ provide. Furthermore, if Jesus’s ‘next older’ brother could not do it, it should have gone then to the next, the next, etc. and then to the husbands of the sisters. Considering a lot of people seem to consider Mary the mother of a dozen or so children, it is inconceivable (pun intended) that NONE of these would have been able to take her. . .further, every time Jesus ‘goes against’ established law in Scripture it is carefully explained that His doing so is correct because of X, Y, Z. NO explanation however as to why He tells Mary that St. John is her son. . .

Furthermore, and most cogent and telling, is the fact that this utterly depraved and degrading doctrine does not appear in Christian teaching until the early 17th century. (Even MARTIN LUTHER and JOHN CALVIN and HENRY VIII believed in Mary’s PERPETUAL VIRGINITY). From the time of the apostles, Mary was taught to be a perpetual virgin.

Furthermore, our brethren the Orthodox (who are shamefully and sadly neglected in so many of these “You Catholics are wrong!” posts) have taught the same: Mary’s perpetual virginity. This is not something that was dreamed up by the evil, corrupt ‘Romans’.

Sadly, what appears to have happened is that some well-intentioned but blindly stubborn and insular people happened to be reading their Bibles and saw the word “brethren”. Despite the fact that for nearly 1700 years every single solitary Christian who lived had understood that word as ‘kinsman’, these poor souls immediately got all paranoid with, “brethren! It means brother! Jesus had brothers! This MUST BE ANOTHER CATHOLIC COVERUP” (think about the times that this ‘doctrine of men’ was introduced --at a time when Protestant hatred of the ‘romans’ was at its height–at a time when the two groups actually physically fought each other. Don’t you think that the Protestants were looking for all the ammunition they could get to ‘prove’ that the ‘romans’ were evil? Don’t you think they were trying to justify themselves, and just keep digging themselves in deeper and traveling further away from the truth every time, in order to desperately convince themselves that they were ‘right’ to leave? )
 
Really? We have proven, conclusively, that:
Any named 'brother of Christ" was not a child of Mary.
There is no mention of any ‘brethren’ when they return from Egypt, or when Jesus,Mary and Joseph ‘went up to Jerusalem’ when Jesus was 12. If Jesus was 12 then, where are all those brothers and sisters? Only Mary and Joseph go back to look for Him. . .
IF Jesus had a brother, Jewish law would require that on His death as the ‘oldest son’, Mary be taken into the house of the next oldest brother. For a person to give custody of the mother to any BUT the next of kin brother would be considered a slap in the face, a breach of law so profound as to require lengthy explanation as to why the brother ‘could not’ provide. Furthermore, if Jesus’s ‘next older’ brother could not do it, it should have gone then to the next, the next, etc. and then to the husbands of the sisters. Considering a lot of people seem to consider Mary the mother of a dozen or so children, it is inconceivable (pun intended) that NONE of these would have been able to take her. . .further, every time Jesus ‘goes against’ established law in Scripture it is carefully explained that His doing so is correct because of X, Y, Z. NO explanation however as to why He tells Mary that St. John is her son. . .

Furthermore, and most cogent and telling, is the fact that this utterly depraved and degrading doctrine does not appear in Christian teaching until the early 17th century. (Even MARTIN LUTHER and JOHN CALVIN and HENRY VIII believed in Mary’s PERPETUAL VIRGINITY). From the time of the apostles, Mary was taught to be a perpetual virgin.

Furthermore, our brethren the Orthodox (who are shamefully and sadly neglected in so many of these “You Catholics are wrong!” posts) have taught the same: Mary’s perpetual virginity. This is not something that was dreamed up by the evil, corrupt ‘Romans’.

Sadly, what appears to have happened is that some well-intentioned but blindly stubborn and insular people happened to be reading their Bibles and saw the word “brethren”. Despite the fact that for nearly 1700 years every single solitary Christian who lived had understood that word as ‘kinsman’, these poor souls immediately got all paranoid with, “brethren! It means brother! Jesus had brothers! This MUST BE ANOTHER CATHOLIC COVERUP” (think about the times that this ‘doctrine of men’ was introduced --at a time when Protestant hatred of the ‘romans’ was at its height–at a time when the two groups actually physically fought each other. Don’t you think that the Protestants were looking for all the ammunition they could get to ‘prove’ that the ‘romans’ were evil? Don’t you think they were trying to justify themselves, and just keep digging themselves in deeper and traveling further away from the truth every time, in order to desperately convince themselves that they were ‘right’ to leave? )
…Mary had children, Christ had brothers. Catholicism just doesn’t have back up for their belief of her perpetual virginity.
 
Name Mary’s children besides Christ.

Christ had no uterine brothers.

Catholic (and Orthodox, why do you keep neglecting them?) Christian teaching can ‘back up’ Mary’s perpetual virginity which has been consistent Christian teaching for 2000 years. How do you back up the claim that she is not? The protestant reformers who started the whole thing didn’t even believe she was not a perpetual virgin.

Item: Firstborn. “Firstborn” is a term used in the Old and New Testament to mark the status of a male child who ‘opens the womb.’ If a woman gives birth to a son. . .and never has another child. . .that son is still legally called ‘first born.’ If a woman gives birth to a daughter, and then a son, neither the daughter nor son is called ‘first born’. It is a Jewish legal definition specifically intended to mark the legal status of that son. ONLY the firstborn son was the legal heir to the family property. Therefore, calling Jesus ‘firstborn’ does not imply that there were any 'afters.

Item: As above. Every single named ‘brother’ of the Lord can be proven by SCRIPTURE ITSELF to be the son of someone OTHER THAN MARY. So there is absolutely no one in Scripture, other than Jesus, who is known to be a son of Mary. There simply is no proof whatsoever that Mary had ANY OTHER CHILD than Jesus.

Item: No mention of brothers/sisters in Egypt. Or when they went up to Jerusalem when Jesus was 12. Or when they returned to Nazareth after. Not one word.

Item: Mary given to St. John’s care. As above: There is no way that Mary would have gone to the care of anyone but her ‘supposed’ OTHER sons or daughters IF they existed.

Item: Until does not mean that after a given time, an action that had occurred will cease. Joseph did not know Mary BEFORE the birth, but the until is again a legal definition to show that there is no way that Joseph could be the father of Jesus, as ONLY God had relations with her ‘before’ the birth. Again, it’s a legal nicety. There is also no proof, especially in the context of the language in which the Scripture was written and the culture of the people, that ‘afterward’ he DID know her.
 
Name Mary’s children besides Christ.

Christ had no uterine brothers.

Catholic (and Orthodox, why do you keep neglecting them?) Christian teaching can ‘back up’ Mary’s perpetual virginity which has been consistent Christian teaching for 2000 years. How do you back up the claim that she is not? The protestant reformers who started the whole thing didn’t even believe she was not a perpetual virgin.

Item: Firstborn. “Firstborn” is a term used in the Old and New Testament to mark the status of a male child who ‘opens the womb.’ If a woman gives birth to a son. . .and never has another child. . .that son is still legally called ‘first born.’ If a woman gives birth to a daughter, and then a son, neither the daughter nor son is called ‘first born’. It is a Jewish legal definition specifically intended to mark the legal status of that son. ONLY the firstborn son was the legal heir to the family property. Therefore, calling Jesus ‘firstborn’ does not imply that there were any 'afters.

Item: As above. Every single named ‘brother’ of the Lord can be proven by SCRIPTURE ITSELF to be the son of someone OTHER THAN MARY. So there is absolutely no one in Scripture, other than Jesus, who is known to be a son of Mary. There simply is no proof whatsoever that Mary had ANY OTHER CHILD than Jesus.

Item: No mention of brothers/sisters in Egypt. Or when they went up to Jerusalem when Jesus was 12. Or when they returned to Nazareth after. Not one word.

Item: Mary given to St. John’s care. As above: There is no way that Mary would have gone to the care of anyone but her ‘supposed’ OTHER sons or daughters IF they existed.

Item: Until does not mean that after a given time, an action that had occurred will cease. Joseph did not know Mary BEFORE the birth, but the until is again a legal definition to show that there is no way that Joseph could be the father of Jesus, as ONLY God had relations with her ‘before’ the birth. Again, it’s a legal nicety. There is also no proof, especially in the context of the language in which the Scripture was written and the culture of the people, that ‘afterward’ he DID know her.
Jesus had brothers. Mary had children. End of.
 
Zundrah you throw that word around as if it was a tennis ball.

Do you have any proof other than ‘‘Catholics must be wrong because they’re heretics’’?
This subject can spin around in circles all day if you want it to. 😃
The bible says brothers. There we go again, see? A circle, again.

P.S. Heretics; yes my favorite word! 😉 Just like a tennis ball!
 
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