Jewish Christianity?

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Christianity arose within the context of Second Temple Judaism. We all know the details, Jesus was a Jew, all his early followers were Jews, but the apostles began to allow gentile converts about a decade after the movement began by people like Paul (himself a Jew). The Council of Jerusalem (45 A.D) decreed that gentile converts did not need to convert to Judaism or follow Jewish laws to become Christians. Within the next decades of the 1st century, gentile Christianity came to dominate over Jewish Christianity; though even by the end of the 1st century there were still large Jewish Christian communities in Palestine, Syria, Asia Minor, and Egypt. Indeed, about 100 years after Jesus, Jewish Christianity was still the dominate mode of Christianity in Palestine, and a full break in this region hadn’t been realized yet on both sides. But, by the time of the Bar Kokhba revolt (132 A.D. - 135 A.D.), the Palestinian Church largely went into diaspora, and the original Palestinian Christianity community was replaced by a gentile Church. This signaled the final break of Judaism and Christianity.

Yet it seems that there has always been somewhat of a link. Up until the 13th century A.D., there were small surviving remnants of Jewish Christian groups like the Ebionites and the Nazarenes (granted they were heretical). And even today, there is a Hebrew Catholic community in Israel and abroad, and there is also the movement of “Messianic Judaism”, who are basically Evangelicals with yamakas, and about half of all “Messianic Jews” are ethnically Jewish and/or were raised in Jewish households. What I want to know is if Christianity still has small chain in Judaism. I know a lot of conservative Jews on here will brush off Messianics as not a true Jewish movement (when I say Messianics I mean all Hebrew Catholics, Messianic Jews, and others), and many Christians will also brush them off as a Jewish movement but include them as a movement within Christianity; but is it possible they’re in-between/both coming from a purely neutral point of view and taking in all sociological, cultural, and religious factors into account.
 
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I suppose it means what you mean. Catholicism is fulfilled Judaism.
Following the old laws is not what brings you salvation.
 
There is a legitimate orthodox Catholic organization called “Hebrew Catholics” http://www.hebrewcatholic.net

Then there are various schismatic or heretical sects, known historically as Judaizers, such as “Messianic Jews”, “Hebrew Roots movement”, and various others.

All Catholics in themselves, to a greater or lesser degree, are Jews. I have no problem identifying as a Jew - with the caveat that I mean fulfilled Judaism as found in the Catholic Church, not rabbinic Judaism, which is a religion founded in the year A.D. 70 and which Jesus was NOT a member of.
 
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Within the Latin Patriarchate of Jerusalem, the St. James Vicariate for Hebrew-speaking Catholics looks after the specific interests of this numerically small group. Fr David Neuhaus, who headed the vicariate for 12 years, has written a Pastoral Letter packed with background information about Catholic-Jewish relations in Israel from the 1950s onward, almost since Israeli independence. Click on the words Pastoral Letter in the top right-hand corner:

http://www.catholic.co.il/index.php?lang=en
 
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Romans 11 gives an outline. Gentiles are not naturally God’s children of the New Testament (Covenant). We have been adopted - branches grafted on. As to the Jewishness of the faith, we know that salvation is of the Jews. Period.

As spyridon already linked, the Association of Hebrew Catholics is also a wealth of information.
 
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So nobody seems to have actually addressed my question…
 
I’m not entirely sure exactly what you were asking, but I thought I answered it when I said Catholics are Jews in that we fulfill the Old Covenant and live under the New and Eternal Covenant.
 
I wasn’t asking about being Jews in a spiritual sense. Maybe re-read what I wrote.
 
I’ve read what you wrote about 4 times and I’m still not sure.

Can you reiterate or rephrase your query?
 
I know a lot of conservative Jews on here will brush off Messianics as not a true Jewish movement (when I say Messianics I mean all Hebrew Catholics, Messianic Jews, and others), and many Christians will also brush them off as a Jewish movement but include them as a movement within Christianity; but is it possible they’re in-between/both coming from a purely neutral point of view and taking in all sociological, cultural, and religious factors into account.
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Messianic Jews aren’t Jews. They’re Evangelical Christians.

I put it this way:

Evangelical Protestant + some Hebrew + some Jewish trappings (shofars, yarmulkes, tallit, etc) = voila! Messianic Jew.

Admittedly, they produce great music.

But I accept them as nothing more than Protestant brethren, even if some of them are indeed ethnically Jewish.
 
That makes 5 times I’ve read that now.

Still not sure what it is you’re asking there.

Can you rephrase the question you have?
 
Jewish Christians movements are specifically Jewish, and most Messianic Jews are too, though yes there are gentile “converts” who undergo a process similar to conversion into mainstream Judaism within various Messianic movements. Their congregations may be also filled with “non-converted” gentiles, though they wouldn’t technically be considered apart of the movement.

I agree, these communities are Christians, yet what wouldn’t make them a Jewish movement? As I made clear in the context, even 100 years after Christianity began, most Palestinian Christians were Jewish, and Jews on both sides hadn’t realized a full break yet within Palestine. Christianity existed primarily as gentile movement outside of Palestine, but within Palestine it was still a Jewish movement. Could likewise be said today? Most of the Christian world is gentile, but there are small factions that are still within Judaism as a movement and so in some sense being both Christian and Jewish?
 
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Sure, a demographer could classify Hebrew Catholics and Messianic Jews as either Christian or Jewish, I don’t see why not anyways.
 
Jewish groups not recognizing each other is nothing new. Orthodox Jews don’t believe either Conservative or Reform Judaism are valid movements of Judaism, and they certainly don’t accept their conversions. Some Conservative Jews would also take a similar position as well.
 
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Philosopher.―You ask in your OP:
What I want to know is if Christianity still has small chain in Judaism.
The expression “small chain” is unknown to me. What does it mean?
 
Sure.

It’s just the Messianic Jews aren’t it.

Messianic Judaism is Western, Gentile Evangelical Protestant Christianity playing Jewish dress-up.
 
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