Jews--Christians--Muslims...same God?

[aidanbradypop]

Calling it a mess would be more appropriate than calling it interesting lol.

We’re baptized Catholics, but didn’t really grow up religiously. So when I found G-d almost two years ago I had to learn everything about Catholicism. What I didn’t know was that my mothers Grannies were Jewish. A little bit later I found out that my fathers’ Grannies were Jewish also. I guarantee you that my mother didn’t know that she married a Jew and vice versa so in the end all stayed in the family. I call it divine intervention lol

When I started to read the Hebrew Scriptures it all made sense and felt so true and I didn’t feel comfortable with the Christian scripture anymore. Finding out that I was Jewish was almost like a relief to me. So now just like two years ago when I learned about Catholicism, I start at zero once again. It can only get better though.

I can see how it is a mess lol…

So do you still believe in Christ or did you turn away from that belief? I read somewhere (forgive me for not knowing right now…I will think of it at 2am lol) that more Muslims convert to Christianity that Jews, but more Christians convert to the Jewish faith than Muslims.

 

[504Katrin]

I can see how it is a mess lol…

So do you still believe in Christ or did you turn away from that belief? I read somewhere (forgive me for not knowing right now…I will think of it at 2am lol) that more Muslims convert to Christianity than Jews, but more Christians convert to the Jewish faith than Muslims.

Well I don’t about that, either; maybe Muslims feel closer to Christianity as they accept Jesus somewhat? I don’t know. That would make for a great poll though

Similar to what AbideWithMe said earlier, Jesus was definately part of my journey when I was looking to find G-d.

 

[meltzerboy]

Calling it a mess would be more appropriate than calling it interesting lol.

We’re baptized Catholics, but didn’t really grow up religiously. So when I found G-d almost two years ago I had to learn everything about Catholicism. What I didn’t know was that my mothers Grannies were Jewish. A little bit later I found out that my fathers’ Grannies were Jewish also. I guarantee you that my mother didn’t know that she married a Jew and vice versa so in the end all stayed in the family. I call it divine intervention lol

When I started to read the Hebrew Scriptures it all made sense and felt so true and I didn’t feel comfortable with the Christian scripture anymore. Finding out that I was Jewish was almost like a relief to me. So now just like two years ago when I learned about Catholicism, I start at zero once again. It can only get better though.

As Catholics would say, welcome home! However, somewhere during your faith journey, if you reconsider Catholicism or even discover some other religion, that would also be wonderful and part of G-d’s plan, I’m sure. Be a kind and charitable person; that’s the main thing.

 

[Doxiemom]

Well Jesus, as a jew, taught that His God , the God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob was our Father and that He and His Father were One and the Same.

So jews and Christians do worship the same Creator, God.

Muslims are taught that they worship the same God but that the jews lied and re-wrote Scripture. And they claim God has no Son. Did you know that that is written on the Dome of the Rock? Is it the same God? Well, it is a distorted God, a far different kind of God, a God who would have jews and gentiles and christians killed if they do not submit. Having said that, without the Jewish God, Chrsitians would have no God as we know Him, nor would the Muslims have a God as they know Him.

Muslims are far from the Light of God. He hears them but from a distant. I accept that they pray in honesty to the same God.

 

[504Katrin]

As Catholics would say, welcome home! However, somewhere during your faith journey, if you reconsider Catholicism or even discover some other religion, that would also be wonderful and part of G-d’s plan, I’m sure. Be a kind and charitable person; that’s the main thing.

Thanks, and yes I know it’s all part of G-ds’ plan

I try to be kind, even if being kind and charitable means to be decisive, which is , believe or not, often even harder…

 

[mum_of_three]

Hey this is my first actual taking part in a thread so pls go easy lol.

I “dabbled” in islam for a couple of months and although it is believed to be the same god as christians and jewish, from the quran and general feeling in the muslim community, He is a very different God to the God i had learned of through christianity.

The God of christianity, in my view, is loving, kind, caring, forgiving, there for everyone, patient. The God i felt i learned of in islam, again this is just my view, is something to be feared and obeyed, not understanding, biased.
I may have a blinkered view, down to the muslims i talked to and spent time around though so please do not think my view is the view of muslims in general.

 

[aidanbradypop]

Hey this is my first actual taking part in a thread so pls go easy lol.

I “dabbled” in islam for a couple of months and although it is believed to be the same god as christians and jewish, from the quran and general feeling in the muslim community, He is a very different God to the God i had learned of through christianity.

The God of christianity, in my view, is loving, kind, caring, forgiving, there for everyone, patient. The God i felt i learned of in islam, again this is just my view, is something to be feared and obeyed, not understanding, biased.
I may have a blinkered view, down to the muslims i talked to and spent time around though so please do not think my view is the view of muslims in general.

Welcome to the Forum and this thread! I talked with a Baptist friend of mine. She is going through the Bible in a year and stated to me that the God of the OT seems different that the God Jesus spoke of in the NT.

 

[GaryTaylor]

, He is a very different God to the God i had learned of through christianity.

The God of christianity, in my view, is loving, kind, caring, forgiving, there for everyone, patient. The God i felt i learned of in islam, again this is just my view, is something to be feared and obeyed, not understanding, biased.

Are you saying you were not feeling the love? I been saying the same thing for years.

Welcome to CAF.

 

[mum_of_three]

Aidanbradypop posted:
Welcome to the Forum and this thread! I talked with a Baptist friend of mine. She is going through the Bible in a year and stated to me that the God of the OT seems different that the God Jesus spoke of in the NT.

Why do you think this is when it is supposed to be the same God? Religion is sooo confusing!! I pray everyday, more than once but ive gotten to the point that im not even sure how to or if God is hearing me because of differing views of how its to be done!!

 

[aidanbradypop]

Aidanbradypop posted:
Welcome to the Forum and this thread! I talked with a Baptist friend of mine. She is going through the Bible in a year and stated to me that the God of the OT seems different that the God Jesus spoke of in the NT.

Why do you think this is when it is supposed to be the same God? Religion is sooo confusing!! I pray everyday, more than once but ive gotten to the point that im not even sure how to or if God is hearing me because of differing views of how its to be done!!

She is searching for understanding and truth. She was Catholic>Lutheran>Baptist. See is trying to understand Sacred Scripture on her own and interpreting however she sees fit. Makes for a really confusing time. I know because I once tried the same thing. lol

We try and place God into a box of our human understanding. Just doesnt work that way. What “we” deem He should be like often gets us into trouble.

 

[mum_of_three]

GaryTaylor posted:
Are you saying you were not feeling the love? I been saying the same thing for years.

Tbh, im still not sure what it was i felt. I admittedly jumped into islam quite blindly and then things just started niggling at me, like certain things as written in hadiths…plus the fact that i became terrorfied of Allah. I fear God but i love Him in equal measure. But Allah and things i learnt about him scared the living daylights out of me. In the NT i often found hope and read that God loves us etc but the feeling from the quran is that Allah saw muhammad as his best creation and the rest of us are ungrateful for our creation and world and stupid.

 

[mum_of_three]

She is searching for understanding and truth. She was Catholic>Lutheran>Baptist. See is trying to understand Sacred Scripture on her own and interpreting however she sees fit. Makes for a really confusing time. I know because I once tried the same thing. lol

We try and place God into a box of our human understanding. Just doesnt work that way. What “we” deem He should be like often gets us into trouble.

I dont for one second claim to know what God is like or how He should be…is way way WAY beyond my comprehension and maybe im not being clear in my wording. As i just posted to someone else, the God of Islam terrified me. I tried to feel love and gratitude as well as being fearful, but fear overtook all else. Even though i have now stopped practising islam, i am still ever mindful of God and that reflects in my behaviour but of course im only human and slip up and sin. From what i understand, this is expected of us and is the point of repentance. But when i was practising islam, i felt that i was to never slip up and if i did, i would be punished…repentance or not. Ultimately i know my fate on the day of judgement is in Gods hands and nobody elses, but at least in christianity i had hope and in islam only dispair.

 

[mum_of_three]

GaryTaylor posted:
Are you saying you were not feeling the love? I been saying the same thing for years.

Tbh, im still not sure what it was i felt. I admittedly jumped into islam quite blindly and then things just started niggling at me, like certain things as written in hadiths…plus the fact that i became terrorfied of Allah. I fear God but i love Him in equal measure. But Allah and things i learnt about him scared the living daylights out of me. In the NT i often found hope and read that God loves us etc but the feeling from the quran is that Allah saw muhammad as his best creation and the rest of us are ungrateful for our creation and world and stupid.

 

[aidanbradypop]

I dont for one second claim to know what God is like or how He should be…is way way WAY beyond my comprehension and maybe im not being clear in my wording. As i just posted to someone else, the God of Islam terrified me. I tried to feel love and gratitude as well as being fearful, but fear overtook all else. Even though i have now stopped practising islam, i am still ever mindful of God and that reflects in my behaviour but of course im only human and slip up and sin. From what i understand, this is expected of us and is the point of repentance. But when i was practising islam, i felt that i was to never slip up and if i did, i would be punished…repentance or not. Ultimately i know my fate on the day of judgement is in Gods hands and nobody elses, but at least in christianity i had hope and in islam only dispair.

I hope and pray you find the peace and love you are seeking :hug1:

 

[J_the_Centrist]

Calling it a mess would be more appropriate than calling it interesting lol.

We’re baptized Catholics, but didn’t really grow up religiously. So when I found G-d almost two years ago I had to learn everything about Catholicism. What I didn’t know was that my mothers Grannies were Jewish. A little bit later I found out that my fathers’ Grannies were Jewish also. I guarantee you that my mother didn’t know that she married a Jew and vice versa so in the end all stayed in the family. I call it divine intervention lol

When I started to read the Hebrew Scriptures it all made sense and felt so true and I didn’t feel comfortable with the Christian scripture anymore. Finding out that I was Jewish was almost like a relief to me. So now just like two years ago when I learned about Catholicism, I start at zero once again. It can only get better though.

I’m happy for you and glad you found your path. Yes, it can only get better from here keep the faith. From a Catholic

 

[J_the_Centrist]

GaryTaylor posted:
Are you saying you were not feeling the love? I been saying the same thing for years.

Tbh, im still not sure what it was i felt. I admittedly jumped into islam quite blindly and then things just started niggling at me, like certain things as written in hadiths…plus the fact that i became terrorfied of Allah. I fear God but i love Him in equal measure. But Allah and things i learnt about him scared the living daylights out of me. In the NT i often found hope and read that God loves us etc but the feeling from the quran is that Allah saw muhammad as his best creation and the rest of us are ungrateful for our creation and world and stupid.

Keep searching and never give up, growing up with Islam I know that it can be very positive for many people. Keep searching, praying, talk to clergymen (Muslim, Christian, etc.), as well as some lay people. Remember you can only find the answers you seek by never giving up. I was in a similar position as an Agnostic a few years ago, people who have never left the faith’s of their birth don’t understand. Always remember you are not alone, many others are and have been through this. I wish you the best of luck, God bless you.

 

[J_the_Centrist]

GaryTaylor posted:
Are you saying you were not feeling the love? I been saying the same thing for years.

Tbh, im still not sure what it was i felt. I admittedly jumped into islam quite blindly and then things just started niggling at me, like certain things as written in hadiths…plus the fact that i became terrorfied of Allah. I fear God but i love Him in equal measure. But Allah and things i learnt about him scared the living daylights out of me. In the NT i often found hope and read that God loves us etc but the feeling from the quran is that Allah saw muhammad as his best creation and the rest of us are ungrateful for our creation and world and stupid.

BTW I was brought up Catholic and came home from Agnosticism few years ago. I do have Muslim relatives though, that’s how I know it is a positive force in the world. I wouldn’t have known this if I didn’t grow up with it in my own household. Just thought I’d clear that up, good luck and God bless.

 

[aidanbradypop]

BTW I was brought up Catholic and came home from Agnosticism few years ago. I do have Muslim relatives though, that’s how I know it is a positive force in the world. I wouldn’t have known this if I didn’t grow up with it in my own household. Just thought I’d clear that up, good luck and God bless.

it appears Mum has left the building.

 

[J_the_Centrist]

it appears Mum has left the building.

No, still Home its an interfaith marriage, they were married by a judge and have been together for almost 25 years.

 

[J_the_Centrist]

it appears Mum has left the building.

Oh, you were referring to the above post! LOL, I thought you were talking about my mother thinking she converted to Islam when she married my step-father.