Jihad on Dogs

[donsnow]

That happened in Argentina, but there are not any confirmed reports in the US according to this.

My MIL sends me every single email “alert” and “warning” imaginable, and most are false, according to Snopes. Every so often she will hit on one, but I have to sift through a lot of false “warnings” to find a real one. A plus side is I visit Snopes often!

This is also confirmed HERE and HERE.

Good morning, Catholic90,

Thanks for the links.

However, the link for this OP was from Spain this year, not Argentina.

On the other hand, I grant that the article from Spain has no eye witnesses as to who is actually poisoning the dogs. All they have is poisoned dogs and a Muslim neighborhood’s hostility towards dogs, for circumstantial evidence. I’m real hard on circumstantial evidence, whether legal or evolutional.

Anyway, anybody in Catalan, Spain could be poisoning those poor dogs, there.

That neighborhood in Catalan would do well to keep its hostility toward dogs to itself and leave Spanish and/or Christian dog owners and their dogs alone. Sharia law belongs in Muslim, not Western, countries.

God loves you,
Don

 

[CatholicBoy1957]

It’s a bad action on the part of the Muslims, which has been made worse because of many owners. It’s bad enough that dogs are “unclean”, (which is quite an understatement), but then, so many owners are slobs themselves. I however doubt if, for the most part, any owners will learn anything from this.

This makes me think of a very old bar in this area. I’m still amazed, every time I go there, by the trough in the floor, around the bar, which has been concreted in, of course, after the laws were changed, quite some years ago now. Some of you might not know what that trough was for, so use some imagination, but remember, it was not for spitting, as they had spittoons for that. The point is, that, these two stories show how far we’ve come, and far we still need to go.

I know a lot of you probably love it when your dog licks your face, even after it just got done licking whatever it is that dogs lick, and goodness knows I believe in a free country, so if that’s what blows up your skirt, go for it, but seriously, that’s where the Muslims see that dogs are unclean, and while I don’t think it means the solution is to secretly poison someone else’s property, maybe if animal owners had some respect for others in society, and kept their animals away from others, and others’ property, I wonder if the problem would have gone this far.

 

[donsnow]

It’s a bad action on the part of the Muslims, which has been made worse because of many owners. It’s bad enough that dogs are “unclean”, (which is quite an understatement), but then, so many owners are slobs themselves. I however doubt if, for the most part, any owners will learn anything from this.

This makes me think of a very old bar in this area. I’m still amazed, every time I go there, by the trough in the floor, around the bar, which has been concreted in, of course, after the laws were changed, quite some years ago now. Some of you might not know what that trough was for, so use some imagination, but remember, it was not for spitting, as they had spittoons for that. The point is, that, these two stories show how far we’ve come, and far we still need to go.

I know a lot of you probably love it when your dog licks your face, even after it just got done licking whatever it is that dogs lick, and goodness knows I believe in a free country, so if that’s what blows up your skirt, go for it, but seriously, that’s where the Muslims see that dogs are unclean, and while I don’t think it means the solution is to secretly poison someone else’s property, maybe if animal owners had some respect for others in society, and kept their animals away from others, and others’ property, I wonder if the problem would have gone this far.

Good afternoon, CatholicBoy1957,

Ummm.

Well, I guess you haven’t seen the documentary on the abuser and serial killer profile put together by the FBI. Abusers and killers start with animals.
Then, they work up to abusing or killing people.

I just don’t like somebody practicing on my pets to work up to abusing or killing children and adult humans.

And I find it a dangerous signal, that killing of stray dogs is a regular occurrence in and near a Muslim neighborhood. Speaks poorly of Islam.

Like the old proverb says, “Avoid the appearance of evil.” Whoever is poisoning those dogs in Catalan, Spain needs to do that and stop killing stray dogs.

God loves you,
Don

 

[Catholic90]

Good morning, Catholic90,

Thanks for the links.

However, the link for this OP was from Spain this year, not Argentina.

On the other hand, I grant that the article from Spain has no eye witnesses as to who is actually poisoning the dogs. All they have is poisoned dogs and a Muslim neighborhood’s hostility towards dogs, for circumstantial evidence. I’m real hard on circumstantial evidence, whether legal or evolutional.

Anyway, anybody in Catalan, Spain could be poisoning those poor dogs, there.

That neighborhood in Catalan would do well to keep its hostility toward dogs to itself and leave Spanish and/or Christian dog owners and their dogs alone. Sharia law belongs in Muslim, not Western, countries.

God loves you,
Don

Yes, Don, the OP was referencing Spain. However you will note my reply was to Scott-Lafrance’s assertion these poisonings were also happening in the US. I addressed the US allegations, NOT the Spain ones. The ones that allegedly happened in the US and/or Canada have never been proven to have actually happened.

 

[nathan_oc]

Good morning, Catholic90,

On the other hand, I grant that the article from Spain has no eye witnesses as to who is actually poisoning the dogs. All they have is poisoned dogs and a Muslim neighborhood’s hostility towards dogs, for circumstantial evidence. I’m real hard on circumstantial evidence, whether legal or evolutional.

Spanish authorities are investigating the recent deaths by poisoning of more than a dozen dogs in Lérida, a city in the northeastern region of Catalonia that has become ground zero in an intensifying debate over the role of Islam in Spain.

All of the dogs were poisoned in September (local media reports here, here, here, here and here) in Lérida’s working class neighbourhoods of Cappont and La Bordeta, districts that are heavily populated by Muslim immigrants and where many dogs have been killed in recent years.

Local residents say Muslim immigrants killed the dogs because according to Islamic teaching dogs are “unclean” animals.

Over the past several months, residents taking their dogs for walks have been harassed by Muslim immigrants opposed to seeing the animals in public. Muslims have also launched a number of anti-dog campaigns on Islamic websites and blogs based in Spain. hudson-ny.org/2480/spain-dog-poisoning

 

[CatholicBoy1957]

Good afternoon, CatholicBoy1957,

Ummm.

Well, I guess you haven’t seen the documentary on the abuser and serial killer profile put together by the FBI. Abusers and killers start with animals.
Then, they work up to abusing or killing people.

I just don’t like somebody practicing on my pets to work up to abusing or killing children and adult humans.

And I find it a dangerous signal, that killing of stray dogs is a regular occurrence in and near a Muslim neighborhood. Speaks poorly of Islam.

Like the old proverb says, “Avoid the appearance of evil.” Whoever is poisoning those dogs in Catalan, Spain needs to do that and stop killing stray dogs.

God loves you,
Don

I haven’t seen the documentary, but I am familiar with the principles regarding mass murderers starting with bizarre animal abuse. The Nazi SS used it to toughen up their officers. But even if I had seen the documentary, or was not already familiar with those principles, what’s the point?

 

[donsnow]

I haven’t seen the documentary, but I am familiar with the principles regarding mass murderers starting with bizarre animal abuse. The Nazi SS used it to toughen up their officers. But even if I had seen the documentary, or was not already familiar with those principles, what’s the point?

Hi, CatholicBoy1957,

The point is that methodically killing dogs, or any other animal, is symptomatic of unbridled lust to kill. Since the lust to kill is unbridled toward animals, it’s also can become unbridled toward people.

So, the point is, because of the above, dead animals laying around the neighborhood is a bad sign. There’s no valid justification for it.

God loves you,
Don

 

[colmywaykurtz]

Good afternoon, CatholicBoy1957,

Ummm.

Well, I guess you haven’t seen the documentary on the abuser and serial killer profile put together by the FBI. Abusers and killers start with animals.
Then, they work up to abusing or killing people.

I just don’t like somebody practicing on my pets to work up to abusing or killing children and adult humans.

And I find it a dangerous signal, that killing of stray dogs is a regular occurrence in and near a Muslim neighborhood. Speaks poorly of Islam.

Like the old proverb says, “Avoid the appearance of evil.” Whoever is poisoning those dogs in Catalan, Spain needs to do that and stop killing stray dogs.

God loves you,
Don

We hear frequently in the news about women getting abused and killed in Islamic countries, and they don’t try to hide it because there seems to be at least a general resignation toward it happening in that culture.

It could well be that Islam also habitually creates a cultural milieu in which the serial killer type arises and flourishes. We just don’t hear much about it because it’s considered un-newsworthy in those countries, and un-PC to say anything about it over here even when western journalists get hold of information on it.

Think about it. When was the last time you ever heard anything about a serial killer in an Islamic country (other than most of their rulers )?

 

[colmywaykurtz]

I guess I’d have to conclude that today’s animal killers are tomorrow’s would-be jihadists and lackies of clerical regimes like Iran’s.

It’d be interesting to examine police records from the Shah’s time in Iran and see if there were any uptick in incidents of animal killing/abuse in the years leading up to Khomeini’s revolution—if those weren’t all destroyed during the chaos of that time.

 

[Wolseley]

These people make it very hard to love them. Again.

It just shows you what a joyless, soulless culture they have.

And yet, Political Correctness demands that we let them do whatever they want, in the name of “tolerance” and “understanding”, and we’re supposed to give them all the concessions they want, even as they defecate all over us.

I say Kipling was right: East is East, and West is West, and never the twain shall meet. The Muslims know this perfectly well, but we’re apparently too dumb to know that.

Maybe we deserve whatever we get.

 

[Raskolnikov]

Woseley:

I say Kipling was right: East is East, and West is West, and never the twain shall meet. The Muslims know this perfectly well, but we’re apparently too dumb to know that.

Maybe we deserve whatever we get.

I suppose then I should correct my Muslim friends who are actually dumb enough to think that they are actually Americans, and tell them to go “back” to the ‘East.’

 

[CatholicBoy1957]

Hi, CatholicBoy1957,

The point is that methodically killing dogs, or any other animal, is symptomatic of unbridled lust to kill. Since the lust to kill is unbridled toward animals, it’s also can become unbridled toward people.

So, the point is, because of the above, dead animals laying around the neighborhood is a bad sign. There’s no valid justification for it.

God loves you,
Don

I understand that there’s no valid justification for Muslims killing dogs. I said that in my post, not in exactly the same words, but essentially that idea, so your point is pointless, if you’re not pointing out anything that’s new to me, unless you can point out something in the FBI documentary which is contrary to my post.

Are you trying to say that the FBI documentary justifies being a pig?

 

[Wolseley]

I suppose then I should correct my Muslim friends who are actually dumb enough to think that they are actually Americans, and tell them to go “back” to the ‘East.’

If they’re advocating killing dogs because Mohammed said so, then AFAIC, by all means, feel free to tell them just that.

If they’re not advocating killing dogs, or killing their daughters for “dishonoring” the family, or blowing up buildings for religious reasons, or imposing Sha’ira law on the rest of us, or reducing all non-Muslims to dhimmitude, then I have no spat with them.

 

[Darryl1958]

Mao shared a lot with Mohammed in his hatred for dog, though for him it was more aoutthe Shar Pei being a symbol of imperial privilege.

For psychologists, it has often been noted that killing pets is a sure sign of psychopathology, and is often how mass murderers start out.
That describes Mao well enough. It may well be true enough for Mohammed too, although he is more of a mythical figure now than a historical one. Anything that Mohammed is purported to have siad could just as likely have been composed for a plethora of other sources that have nothing to do with Mohammed, much like the Koran itself is a mishmash of different sources, some of them heterogeneous Christian ones even.

No matter. People that go around killing other people’s pets should be deported and/or in jail. It doesn’t speak well for a religion that this is the kind of psychopathic behavior that we have come to expect from so many of its followers.

 

[Rence]

How could someone not notice some freak poisoning their dog? Are they sneaking into houses and dumping poison into dog dishes? I wouldn’t let my dog have anything from a stranger and if some wierdo tried to give something to my dog without asking me first they’d have a plastic baggy of dog-poo smeared in their face so they know how unclean he really is!

Allegra, there are many ways to poison dogs. I won’t say here, to avoid giving people ideas. Living in the country, sometime I have had canine visitors that have tore up my henhouse and attacked my livestock. After talking with the owners a couple times, and even taking shots at the dogs with a .22, they decided it would be best to contain their animals as I contain mine. That said, sometimes talking doesn’t work, and homeowners have taken to leaving poison infused treats for predatory dogs. Some poisons smell and taste sweet to dogs and they’ll eat them like candy. Knowing this, I can totally see how someone who wants to could poison dogs. Just walking your dog at night, would you know if and what he was eating? Especially if the laced tidbits were offered in bite sized pieces strewn in the grass or bushes.

I’m so glad I live where I can shoot at predatory humans who would harm my animals. And if you believe anything I write on this forum, believe that: yes I would shoot at them. No one would go after another’s animals around these parts!

 

[donsnow]

I understand that there’s no valid justification for Muslims killing dogs. I said that in my post, not in exactly the same words, but essentially that idea, so your point is pointless, if you’re not pointing out anything that’s new to me, unless you can point out something in the FBI documentary which is contrary to my post.

Are you trying to say that the FBI documentary justifies being a pig?

Hi, CatholicBoy1957,

Oh, that point.

No, I’m saying there’s no valid justification in hating dogs nor dog owners. There’s nothing wrong with loving dogs, who are quite affectionate, loyal, faithful, when treated kindly and some breeds are quite intelligent.

So, we’re disagreed. You’ve made your point and I’ve made my point. Let’s leave it at that, Ok?

God loves you,
Don

 

[Raskolnikov]

If they’re advocating killing dogs because Mohammed said so, then AFAIC, by all means, feel free to tell them just that…

They, being characteristic of Muslims, do not.

If they’re not advocating killing dogs, or killing their daughters for “dishonoring” the family, or blowing up buildings for religious reasons, or imposing Sha’ira law on the rest of us, or reducing all non-Muslims to dhimmitude, then I have no spat with them

Wonderful. Then the overwhelming majority of Muslims should not be problems for you.

 

[Allegra]

Just walking your dog at night, would you know if and what he was eating? Especially if the laced tidbits were offered in bite sized pieces strewn in the grass or bushes.

I don’t let my dogs eat anything lying around on the ground when we go for a walk and my dogs aren’t allowed off my property unleashed. (I live in the city.) I don’t own a gun, so I couldn’t shoot anyone, but I’m pretty sure that they would not escape unscathed. My dog is very cute.

 

[CatholicBoy1957]

Hi, CatholicBoy1957,

Oh, that point.

No, I’m saying there’s no valid justification in hating dogs nor dog owners. There’s nothing wrong with loving dogs, who are quite affectionate, loyal, faithful, when treated kindly and some breeds are quite intelligent.

So, we’re disagreed. You’ve made your point and I’ve made my point. Let’s leave it at that, Ok?

God loves you,
Don

What was it we disagreed on?

 

[donsnow]

What was it we disagreed on?

Good evening, CatholicBoy1957,

I get the impression we’re disagreed on the emotional value of dogs. That’s why I offer to drop the discussion.

Anyway, it’s late, for me, and I’m getting sleepy eyed as I type. I’ll be back tomorrow.

God loves you,
Don