Jihadists Seize Iraq's Nineveh Province!

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This would not be happening if the U.S. had not gone to war with Iraq in the first place, i.e., by taking out Saddam the U.S. destabilized the region, so the least they can do now is provide some help to Iraq with air strikes and such (this is bad for everyone, i.e., the more radicalized the Middle East becomes, the more dangerous a situation the world will find itself in).
So the idea is to do what with the embassy in the middle of this? Even if I was to think which I don’t we are to spend another 700-billion on a long term stabilized adventure, with an undermined short term goal for Baghdad, this regime and Isis. The idea behind that is to protect ourselves here, Jordan, Syria, in the long term goal.
 
"Two senior intelligence sources, though, told Fox News there is serious concern about how to evacuate other Americans out of Iraq if the situation further deteriorates.

“We need places to land, we need safe and secure airfields,” one source said, noting that the militants are “seizing airfields and they have surface-to-air missiles, which very clearly threatens our pilots and planes if we do go into evacuation mode.”

Sources said “all western diplomats in Iraq are in trouble,” and American allies are scrambling to put together an evacuation plan. Military officials said there are “not a lot of good options.”

Last was this older article. We know Isis is very dangerous.

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Our military intervention takes sides in their Holy Civil war.
 
I think we need to quickly admit democracy American style failed, we are not building the 51st state of America, this country[Iraq] is going to be tribal and rightfully divided, and the Air Strikes to sway favor with shock and awe using the military as a political pawn is “bad advice”.

Tell me how you can not be skeptical about another 10-year adventure with what, democracy?
I agree 100%. To work and to last, democracy has to be imported: (as in people without it, reaching out to attain it) rather than exported into a place it neither exists nor is particularly appreciated.
 
This would not be happening if the U.S. had not gone to war with Iraq in the first place, i.e., by taking out Saddam the U.S. destabilized the region, so the least they can do now is provide some help to Iraq with air strikes and such (this is bad for everyone, i.e., the more radicalized the Middle East becomes, the more dangerous a situation the world will find itself in).
Provide help to Iraq to defend the govt in Iran? The same Iraq that is propping up Assad the Terrible in Syria and posing a threat to Israel’s existence? I think not. Have we not learned yet that the enemies of our enemies are not necessarily our friends?

Part of the lesson we were supposed to learn from this past decade of war, is that even extremists will direct their energies inward, to their own people, until and unless outsiders interfere (e.g. the Taliban pre-911).

The primary cause of these radicals’ existence is to establish a pure theocracy where they live - only secondarily is it our destruction. I’m of the mind that the threat from ISIS will increase - not decrease - if we engage in a fight against them.

And what one earth would be our targets in an airstrike? Does ISIS have stationary bases?
 
Provide help to Iraq to defend the govt in Iran? The same Iraq that is propping up Assad the Terrible in Syria and posing a threat to Israel’s existence? I think not. Have we not learned yet that the enemies of our enemies are not necessarily our friends?
Well, U.S. military assistance would have to come with concessions on the part of the majority Shiite government in Iraq, moreover, if the situation in Iraqi continues to escalate further you will have a far greater threat to deal with, i.e., ISIS wants to create a caliphate that will encompass, first, the Middle East and then possibly the rest of the world, in other words, this issue is not going to go away, it is only going to get worse if the International community, but more specifically the U.S. doesn’t do something strategically.
The primary cause of these radicals’ existence is to establish a pure theocracy where they live - only secondarily is it our destruction. I’m of the mind that the threat from ISIS will increase - not decrease - if we engage in a fight against them.
And I’m of the mind that it will increase, i.e., these are not people simply fighting for a pure theocracy, they want a CALIPHATE.
And what one earth would be our targets in an airstrike? Does ISIS have stationary bases?
No, but they do have areas which are under their control, i.e., my point is simply that at one point or another the U.S. will have to intervene because it is not going to get better.
 
I agree 100%. To work and to last, democracy has to be imported: (as in people without it, reaching out to attain it) rather than exported into a place it neither exists nor is particularly appreciated.
There was a power vacuum that was created when the U.S. pulled it’s troops out, i.e., they needed to stay longer in order for the area to stabilize.
 
Provide help to Iraq to defend the govt in Iran? The same Iraq that is propping up Assad the Terrible in Syria and posing a threat to Israel’s existence?
ISIS is what Assad had to deal with. Assad opposed ISIS, while the USA was supporting the terrorists in Syria and opposing Assad. Now ISIS has amassed a huge amount of weapons sent by the USA. Things would have been a lot better if the USA had joined with Russia in supporting Assad and the Christians in Syria and then moving to make the reforms that Syria needed.
 
There was a power vacuum that was created when the U.S. pulled it’s troops out
And power vacuums will always be filled.

It was a serious mistake to completely dismantle the Iraqi military infrastructure after the war and then try to build it up again from scratch. Then the USA (and the UK) tried to convince itself that the Iraqi army was sufficiently established and powerful enough to defend itself against potential aggressors, in order to appease public opinion and justify pulling out.

Iraq cannot stand against the insurgents on its own. It will either need the backing of the USA, or Iran, or both. If the USA won’t help then Iraq will have to turn to Iran and with that will come a significant growth in Iranian power and influence in the region.

The options for the West are:
  1. Send in troops;
  2. Don’t send in troops and watch Iran send in troops;
  3. Cooperate with Iran regarding military action;
  4. Let Iraq fall to ISIL.
 
Iraq cannot stand against the insurgents on its own. It will either need the backing of the USA, or Iran, or both.
For how many years should the USA send boys to give up their young lives to die in Iraq? Are you willing to give up your life to solve the centuries old warring between the various Islamic sectors? And how long should the American taxpayer be giving their hard earned money for these type of wars which go nowhere, but lead only to more massacres and destruction?
 
And power vacuums will always be filled.

It was a serious mistake to completely dismantle the Iraqi military infrastructure after the war and then try to build it up again from scratch. Then the USA (and the UK) tried to convince itself that the Iraqi army was sufficiently established and powerful enough to defend itself against potential aggressors, in order to appease public opinion and justify pulling out.

Iraq cannot stand against the insurgents on its own. It will either need the backing of the USA, or Iran, or both. If the USA won’t help then Iraq will have to turn to Iran and with that will come a significant growth in Iranian power and influence in the region.

The options for the West are:
  1. Send in troops;
  2. Don’t send in troops and watch Iran send in troops;
  3. Cooperate with Iran regarding military action;
  4. Let Iraq fall to ISIL.
I agree with almost everything you’ve said, however, do they (the U.S.) necessarily have to cooperate with Iran, i.e., do they need Iran’s military help (maybe I’m being overly optimistic by believing it might not be necessary)? 😦
 
For how many years should the USA send boys to give up their young lives to die in Iraq? Are you willing to give up your life to solve the centuries old warring between the various Islamic sectors? And how long should the American taxpayer be giving their hard earned money for these type of wars which go nowhere, but lead only to more massacres and destruction?
How long will it be before we are dealing with a threat far worse than we’ve ever seen, i.e., this problem is not going to go away on it’s own, in fact, ISIS is committed to creating a caliphate?

p.s. Communism would not have gone away were it not for the likes of U.S. (British) intervention, i.e., just think of what the world would have been like if communism were allowed free reign so to speak.
 
For how many years should the USA send boys to give up their young lives to die in Iraq? Are you willing to give up your life to solve the centuries old warring between the various Islamic sectors? And how long should the American taxpayer be giving their hard earned money for these type of wars which go nowhere, but lead only to more massacres and destruction?
So what option would you prefer then? Let Iran move in to help Iraq, and see Iran’s power and influence grow significantly in the region? Or let Iraq fall and have ISIL set up a huge Islamic terrorist state that has the expressed interest to expand further?
I agree with almost everything you’ve said, however, do they (the U.S.) necessarily have to cooperate with Iran, i.e., do they need Iran’s military help (maybe I’m being overly optimistic by believing it might not be necessary)? 😦
The USA could do it alone, but that would involve a very significant military intervention, including ground troops.

No military intervention from the West means either an ISIL terrorist state that is openly hostile to the West and will launch support terrorists to attack us at home, or we will see Iran emerging as an even more powerful force in the region. There are no easy choices.
 
ISIL is not going to take Iraq, I guarantee it. They’ve had no real opposition yet, are not that well armed and are seriously lacking in numbers.
 
So you reckon that the Iraqi army will be able, not just to defend Iraq from ISIL, but be able to move in and retake the cities and vast areas of Iraq that ISIL have now taken? And without any Western military involvement, or any Iranian involvement? Let’s hope you’re right.
 
So what option would you prefer then?
Let them solve their own problems instead of killing young American boys and bleeding the hard working American taxpayer. For how many more years is this thing going to go on? Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan have resulted in the deaths of thousands of innocent people, not to mention the hundreds of billions of dollars wasted. This money could have been used to help poor families in the USA who are struggling with the high costs of college education.
 
The Pentagon press secretary, Rear Admiral John Kirby, issued a statement which said: “At the request of the State Department, the US military is providing security assistance for our diplomatic facilities in Baghdad.

“The temporary relocation of some embassy personnel is being facilitated aboard commercial, charter and State Department aircraft as appropriate. The US military has airlift assets at the ready.”

The statements came as Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (Isis) fighters threatened Baghdad, the State Department warned US citizens in the country to “maintain security awareness at all times” and reports of the murder of captured government troops caused widespread anger among Shias.

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Pakistan is taking care of the radical element “without” US intervention.

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More on US embassy…

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