Jihadists Seize Iraq's Nineveh Province!

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I read on drudge they had captured an oil refinery.
Where is Maliki?
Not just any oli refinery, but the Baiji oil refinery, the largest oil refinery in Iraq.

I was listening to the radio today and a senior British military intelligence officer has described ISIS, not just as a terrorist organisation, but as a “functioning, operational, military”. I didn’t catch who exactly it was who said this and I can’t find the transcript online, but viewing ISIS as a weak, poorly trained, purely terrorist organisation is folly.
 
Not just any oli refinery, but the Baiji oil refinery, the largest oil refinery in Iraq.

I was listening to the radio today and a senior British military intelligence officer has described ISIS, not just as a terrorist organisation, but as a “functioning, operational, military”. I didn’t catch who exactly it was who said this and I can’t find the transcript online, but viewing ISIS as a weak, poorly trained, purely terrorist organisation is folly.
I read where ISIS has been joined by tribal leaders of the “Awakening Council” and a Sunni military organization that has a lot of former army officers in it. The latter claim to have more strength within the conflict than ISIS itself.

Hard to know.
 
In post #432 Coatimundi shows a map of Iraq and the salmon colored area is the area where ISIS moves freely. So if they capture Baghdad will they continue to move south?
Are there American news crews over there now covering this like when we unvaded or is it too dangerous?
 
In post #432 Coatimundi shows a map of Iraq and the salmon colored area is the area where ISIS moves freely. So if they capture Baghdad will they continue to move south?
Are there American news crews over there now covering this like when we unvaded or is it too dangerous?
I don’t think ISIS will take Baghdad. Some Sunni suburbs, maybe. But there is a reason the iranian Quds force general is there. He isn’t alone.

In the unlikely event they completely take Baghdad, they will be unsuccessful in moving into the concentrated Shiite areas. That’s very open country, and even if the locals don’t fight (which they almost certainly will) they will be vulnerable to the real Iranian air force.
 
In post #432 Coatimundi shows a map of Iraq and the salmon colored area is the area where ISIS moves freely. So if they capture Baghdad will they continue to move south?
Are there American news crews over there now covering this like when we unvaded or is it too dangerous?
They have taken Sunni provinces where they have allies. A lot of the area in the West of Iraq is sparsely populated so while it is a lot of area, it is mostly uninhabited desert. They aren’t strong enough to take Shiite provinces.
 
I don’t think ISIS will take Baghdad. Some Sunni suburbs, maybe. But there is a reason the iranian Quds force general is there. He isn’t alone.

In the unlikely event they completely take Baghdad, they will be unsuccessful in moving into the concentrated Shiite areas. That’s very open country, and even if the locals don’t fight (which they almost certainly will) they will be vulnerable to the real Iranian air force.
Ok. So do you think we should know by the end of the week?
 
Maliki accused Saudi Arabia of aiding ISIL and then asks the US who protects the Saudis for help. Quite a few people are going to notice that one.
 
If baghdad is not at risk why did they send the 275 troops to guard the embassy and send the aircraft carrier over there?
Whereas the city is not at risk, there could be a terrorist attack aimed at just selected targets, including the embassy. After Benghazi, the State Dept. isn’t about to risk it.
 
Conflicting reports coming in regarding the fighting at the Baiji oil refinery near Baghdad. Everything from it being captured by ISIL to government forces having successfully repelled the attack.
 
I read where ISIS has been joined by tribal leaders of the “Awakening Council” …
Which is why Obama is pausing on the order to start air raids. From the actions of the Pentagon, my guess is they are trying to get more accurate targets so as to avoid striking these ex-allies just yet. We have added manned surveillance flights today.
 
Which is why Obama is pausing on the order to start air raids. From the actions of the Pentagon, my guess is they are trying to get more accurate targets so as to avoid striking these ex-allies just yet. We have added manned surveillance flights today.
POTUS needs to stop and think. Jumping back into Iraq, if he does it, could prove to be his life’s greatest regret.
 
Obama and his supporters are responsible for the breakdown in Iraq and the slaughter of innocents.
I support him staying out of Iraq and take no responsibility for what people do to their own countrymen. Where are the tears for Syria? Where were the tears for Sudan? Where are the tears for the victims of atrocities the world over?

This is all about oil. Pure and simple.
WMDs probably went to Syria, that’s what Obama’s own nominee said and a lot of people have said WMDS were used in Syria.
Then why not go to Syria and look for them instead of remaining in Iraq and disrupting its stability? No, let me guess, that was Obama’s fault too - that Bush couldn’t find WMDs.
 
Amen, the Obama administration is exploring options instead of rescuing civilians at the embassy, its despicable. He was too busy with his anti-global warming commencement address and going to play golf in Palm Springs, while leaving civilians as “bait” for terrorists.
US civilians? That is who he is responsible for isn’t it?

Let Obama try going back into Iraq. He will see more people on the Washington mall than attended BOTH his inaugurations combined.

Let IRAQI soldiers die for IRAQIS - that’s what the president who allegedly ‘won’ the Iraq war had them trained to do, no?
 
POTUS needs to stop and think. Jumping back into Iraq, if he does it, could prove to be his life’s greatest regret.
On the other hand, he can’t abandon Iraq to terrorists. That will come back to haunt the US and the West in only a few years.

He has already ruled out sending large numbers of ground forces into Iraq at this time.
 
On the other hand, he can’t abandon Iraq to terrorists. That will come back to haunt the US and the West in only a few years.
Which terrorists? The ones on the government side or the ones fighting the government? Sorry, but when I open my eyes I can see no difference: dead is dead, no matter what your killers are called.
 
America didn’t build a new $750, 000, 000.00
new embassy in syria and do we want the lives of the soldiers killed in Iraq to be in vain as well as all the good we tried to do?
 
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