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My father got me this Bible (cost him a lot, about $100 :eek: ) but I am confused as to whether this would go with Catholic teachings and the way I am used to reading the Bible (the Douay-Rheims) Expositor's Study Bible 05 edition (9780976953005) - Textbooks.com

That’s the Bible. My question is, is this Bible okay to read for Catholics? It doesn’t state which sort of Bible it is (KJV, NAB, etc) so I’m really confused. :confused:
 
It is essentially a King James study bible. The problem is that it is incomplete. It has only 66 books, rather than the 73 books of Catholic bibles. As with any bible, there can be problems with the translation from the original languages. Protestant bibles, especially the newer ones, show a definite agenda in them - and that agenda seems to be to disagree with certain Catholic teachings. Now, there is also the issue of the expositor’s notes. Since they are not Catholic, their opinions come, not from the decisions of a Church council, or from a universally accepted catechism, but from private interpretation of scripture. Now, all protestant denominations do that, but the bible (2 Peter 1:20) forbids it! The private interpretation of scripture is the primary reason why none of the many protestant denominations agree. Worse is that there is no central protestant authority to go to to solve the dilemma.

If it is new (and will not offend dad), I would return it and get a Navarre bible, which everyone seems to rave about. Ignatius press offers a great study bible, but it is only the New Testament at this point. Tough call as to what to do with it, but you are not out any money so far.
 
i see you are new to the faith,as i am.i would definitely recommend not using it.stay with your douy-rheims,or if that because of the archaic language is too difficult the new american or the revised standard version (catholic edition)
 
I saw in the description in the link you gave that the Bible is King James version. The biggest problem with this Bible is that it gives commentary all the way through. Jimmy Swaggart is a Pentacostal preacher, and his interpretation of scripture is not going to be in line with Catholic teaching. I think you’re going to wind up confused and it’s going to undermine your learning of the Catholic Faith. You really need a Catholic Bible with Catholic commentary or notes so that you will understand what the Church teaches. I am sorry your father spent so much on the Bible. Is there any way you can return it? Is your father not Catholic?
 
PLEASE:
Stay away from things like THE JIMMY SWAGGART BIBLE. It’s name says it all.
It is a Bible, the popular King James Version, but it is filled from front to back with “Brother Swaggart’s” own unique personal interpretations of the scriptures. You will come away from study of such a bible with your head filled with Brother Swaggart’s personal theological conclusions, and sorry, but Christianity has been around for thousands of years longer than Brother Swaggart, no matter how good and sincere his intentions may be.
Peace,
Jaypeeto4
+JMJ+

On the other hand, if you don’t mind belonging to a (mostly-fiction) Christian book club for a few months, you can join CROSSINGS book club (look for them online) and for 99 cents you can get, I think, four books as the intro to your membership, one of whidh is a gorgeous, leatherbound New American Standard Bible study bible. It’s an evangelical study bible, so be a bit cautiious, but it’s worth $100 retail, so you’re really getting a bargain here, and the TEXT of the NASB, though it lacks our catholic deutero-canonicals, was a BIG HELP TO ME in the 1980s in reading and growing in understanding of God’s Word. The NASB text, itself, is published by the Lockman Foundation and is, the text itself, a very good translation which I DO recommend.

Jaypeeto4
 
A new convert to Catholicism does NOT need an “evangelical study bible” any more than you need a Jimmy Swaggart bible.

Your father undoubtedly meant well, and of course you don’t want to upset him. If he would be offended if you returned it, then just put it aside as a keepsake. It is, after all, a gift.
Jaypeeto4 said:
PLEASE:
Stay away from things like THE JIMMY SWAGGART BIBLE. It’s name says it all.
It is a Bible, the popular King James Version, but it is filled from front to back with “Brother Swaggart’s” own unique personal interpretations of the scriptures. You will come away from study of such a bible with your head filled with Brother Swaggart’s personal theological conclusions, and sorry, but Christianity has been around for thousands of years longer than Brother Swaggart, no matter how good and sincere his intentions may be.
Peace,
Jaypeeto4
+JMJ+

On the other hand, if you don’t mind belonging to a (mostly-fiction) Christian book club for a few months, you can join CROSSINGS book club (look for them online) and for 99 cents you can get, I think, four books as the intro to your membership, one of whidh is a gorgeous, leatherbound New American Standard Bible study bible. It’s an evangelical study bible, so be a bit cautiious, but it’s worth $100 retail, so you’re really getting a bargain here, and the TEXT of the NASB, though it lacks our catholic deutero-canonicals, was a BIG HELP TO ME in the 1980s in reading and growing in understanding of God’s Word. The NASB text, itself, is published by the Lockman Foundation and is, the text itself, a very good translation which I DO recommend.

Jaypeeto4
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po18guy said:
It is essentially a King James study bible. The problem is that it is incomplete. It has only 66 books, rather than the 73 books of Catholic bibles. As with any bible, there can be problems with the translation from the original languages. Protestant bibles, especially the newer ones, show a definite agenda in them - and that agenda seems to be to disagree with certain Catholic teachings. Now, there is also the issue of the expositor’s notes. Since they are not Catholic, their opinions come, not from the decisions of a Church council, or from a universally accepted catechism, but from private interpretation of scripture. Now, all protestant denominations do that, but the bible (2 Peter 1:20) forbids it! The private interpretation of scripture is the primary reason why none of the many protestant denominations agree. Worse is that there is no central protestant authority to go to to solve the dilemma.

If it is new (and will not offend dad), I would return it and get a Navarre bible, which everyone seems to rave about. Ignatius press offers a great study bible, but it is only the New Testament at this point. Tough call as to what to do with it, but you are not out any money so far.
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Sounds right to me with JS, anyway, so the Nararre Bible comes in Large Print? I’m looking for a new Large Print. 🙂
 
Burubara said:
My father got me this Bible (cost him a lot, about $100 :eek: ) but I am confused as to whether this would go with Catholic teachings and the way I am used to reading the Bible (the Douay-Rheims) Expositor's Study Bible 05 edition (9780976953005) - Textbooks.com

That’s the Bible. My question is, is this Bible okay to read for Catholics? It doesn’t state which sort of Bible it is (KJV, NAB, etc) so I’m really confused. :confused:
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I wouldn’t. First of all, you’re right, $100 is a ridiculous amount of money for a Bible but, in all fairness, books in general are very expensive.

If you’re looking for a good study Bible, I’d pick John MacArthur’s study Bible in the ESV. The amount of notes, study aides, and references is staggarring.

For the most part, Swaggart’s doctrine isn’t the problem. It’s that he’s a Pentecostal and that he carries a lot of baggage. I’ve heard him say some things that are really ridiculous and some things that show an amazing level of insight. Just the same, though, I wouldn’t.
 
Yeah, Catholics don’t like John MacArthur. But the MacArthur Study Bible in the ESV is still an excellent Bible and study resource.
 
And Catholic teachers are chock a block with anti-Protestant Christian teaching. I could just as easily say the same about your side.
 
Actually, I said “Protestant Christian”, not merely “Christian”, thus implying that Catholics* are *Christians. Are you saying that there is no distinction between Protestants and Catholics?
 
But both are not Protestants. Any reasonable person can see that the distinction was not between Catholic and Christian, but between Catholic and Protestant. Even you admit that Catholics are not Protestants.
The OP asked about a particular Bible, in return you chose to recommend one by a preacher who has a particularly unpleasant agenda regarding Catholics. On a Catholic forum as well it should be noted…
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Yes, because it’s an excellent Bible.
 
The issue of Roman Catholicism is not specifically brought up in The Mac Arthur Study Bible. Dont get the misconception each and every study bible will take shorts at the RCC or the Pope. After all it is a study bible that has notes to help explain some text. Doctrinal disagreement does not constitute one as anti-catholic as all too often people think it is. The all important issue is the doctrinal content regardless of what group one belongs to. The positive side of The Mac Arthur Study Bible is that it teaches things such as the Trinity, the full deity and human of Jesus, the personality and deity of the Holy Spirit, the virgin birth of Jesus and his death on the cross for our sins and resurrection from the dead and the future second coming of Jesus. With this all Roman Catholics , Eastern Orthodox and Protestants should say amen since that is in line with the Apostle’s Creed and other Creeds of the church. Now on the down side doctrinally if one is Roman Catholic a person will disagree with it’s teaching on such things as election / predestination, justification, sanctification , form of church government and fine points of details on eschatology as he teaches dispensational premillennial position. Next time please think of real reasons not to buy or use a study bible. That way it does not come across as being biased. If one wants to know what some Protestants believe they should buy it that by does not mean one will embrace what is in it in full at all. Basically it can be used strictly for informative purposes.For example, even though I am not Eastern Orthodox I still own and use The Orthodox Study Bible even though it has some doctrines of which I personal disagree with.
 
I thought it was a question over a certain study bible. I felt the reasons for rejecting it were biased based instead of the most serious doctrinal issues in it. The specific study bible in question from Jimmy Swaggart has serious doctrinal errors from within Protestant standards. For starters. he rejects the doctrine of the trinity and replaced it with a belief that the trinity is 3 separate gods . So he embraces tritheism instead of trinitarianism. I can point out many theological heretical teachings in it which would be good enough warning for anyone reading it. Since it contains doctrines which early depart from the creeds of the church.
However suggesting study Bibles annotated and compiled by notoriously virulent anti-Catholic preachers are profitable for study is dubious. They would only be profitable if one approaches them with a great degree of caution and attempts to filter out the gold from the dirt contained within.
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That would depend greatly on the exact content of the study bible actually. If it’s notes rants on and on againist Roman Catholicism and others in an unnecessary manner I would agree with what you are saying. But The Mac Arthur Study Bible does not do that. The basic issue would be it’s doctrines and even the for informative purposes. For example to make my point here is I dont discourage Protestants from reading or owning the NAB which is a Roman Catholic study bible because Roman Catholicism is againist some Protestant beliefs. I personally own the NAB yet I disagree with specific distinctive Roman Catholic doctrines. But I use it for informative purposes. My point is we have to be level headed. 🙂
These then are all truths that MacArthur has retained from Catholicism and not lost sight of. Indeed the fact he embraces these basics is a good thing, but his work by it’s very nature must be approached with Caution.
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Everything we read should be read with caution and discernment. 🙂
By the way the correct name for the the Catholic Church is just that, I am a Catholic who happens to be a Roman Catholic, others who are in communion with Rome are Catholic but not Roman Catholic.
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I use the term Catholic Church to mean all professing Christianity which affirms such creeds such as the Apostle’s Creed and others. So I view the Catholic Church as Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox and Protestantism who happen to be in schism with one another. When I deal with the part of Roman Catholicism I often refer to it as the Roman Church or the Roman See which covers all who are in communion with it which would include all the various rites with it like eastern rites and so on. 🙂 I prefer to define the Catholic Church as intended by the Creeds as historically understood. 🙂 Hope you are enjoying your day.
 
Chafer_DTS said:
I thought it was a question over a certain study bible. I felt the reasons for rejecting it were biased based instead of the most serious doctrinal issues in it. The specific study bible in question from Jimmy Swaggart has serious doctrinal errors from within Protestant standards.
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Since the OP is Catholic we should be evaluating suggested study Bibles based on a Catholic standard not a Protestant standard. Hence, the John MacArthur study Bible is still not an good suggestion.
 
Link0126 said:
Since the OP is Catholic we should be evaluating suggested study Bibles based on a Catholic standard not a Protestant standard. Hence, the John MacArthur study Bible is still not an good suggestion.
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You mean the Jimmy Swaggart Study Bible as per OP. 🙂 Guess some are unable to deal with their personal bias towards other. 🙂
 
To me the important feature would be their being subject to the Pope and their being in communion with him. I think we are saying the same thing in meaning but using different ways of saying it. 🙂
by the way have problems with Swaggart’s views which from what I know of them I would hesitate to even call Christian at times. Especially his views on the Trinity you cited.
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Swaggart is very far out there. I agree with you that at times his views are not christian. Makes me wonder how anyone can listen or watch him much less read his writings. People should be warned of his false teachings. Glad we see eye to eye on Swaggart. 🙂
 
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