Joe Arpaio: Barack Obama birth proof 'may be forged'

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agnes_therese said:
Then he shouldn’t be publicly talking vaguely about having “a ton of things” on the President. Irresponsible and unprofessional.
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Absolutely right. A prosecutor or the investigators in a major criminal case do NOT have press conferences and say that they have “a ton of things” on the alleged criminal. If they have overwhelming evidence of criminal wrongdoing, they should present it at trial, and not make rash statements.
 
mary_bobo said:
Sarcasm really does not help. I think most people, if they are a curious lot, would wonder what is going on here. You do not have to doubt the birthplace of the president to be interested in what is going on. Personally, I have not concerned myself about where is was born. My only interest is to defeat him before he can do any more harm to this country.
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thank you mary. why are we being criticized for wondering what is going on here? if there is proof that the white house has provided a fraudulent document or documents, that is a serious concern for me. so i am thankful sheriff joe has taken on this investigation in spite of the ridicule he has received.
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
Absolutely right. A prosecutor or the investigators in a major criminal case do NOT hve press conferences and say that they have “a ton of things” on the alleged criminal. If they have overwhelming evidence of criminal wrongdoing, they should present it at trial, and not make rash statements.
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he is surprised at the media’s unwillingness to take his investigation’s findings seriously i believe. he has been quiet until the press conference to disclose the findings so far.
 
7_Sorrows said:
he’s doing his job.
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Seemingly unprofessionally with that “ton of things.”

Do you expect that he will arrest the President if Obama comes to Arizona? Should be an interesting firefight between the Secret Service and Arpaio’s deputies if he tries to go that route.
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
Seemingly unprofessionally with that “ton of things.”

Do you expect that he will arrest the President if Obama comes to Arizona? Should be an interesting firefight between the Secret Service and Arpaio’s deputies if he tries to go that route.
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LOL! Arpaio is a joke and currently under investigation in his own state. I heard that Elvis and Tupac were seen wearing pink in his jail kingdom. 😃
 
kozlosap said:
LOL! Arpaio is a joke and currently under investigation in his own state.
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It is the Obama administration that is investigating Arpaio because they have received some complaints from Democrats in AZ and some organzations outside the state.

Arpaio is not loved by the Left. There was a protest the other day organized against him by people outside the state.

It doesn’t seem to have convinced Sheriff Joe to lay off though: asks for Obama’s Selective Service formArpaio
 
What gives Joe Arpaio any jurisdiction in completing any type of investigation concerning a federal government position? Left or right has nothing to do with it, plain old common sense does! :rolleyes: a new theory: The Donald is bankrolling Joe’s investigation which makes for a much more fun outcome!!!
 
kozlosap said:
What gives Joe Arpaio any jurisdiction in completing any type of investigation concerning a federal government position? Left or right has nothing to do with it, plain old common sense does! :rolleyes: a new theory: The Donald is bankrolling Joe’s investigation which makes for a much more fun outcome!!!
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Trump isn’t contributing anything to the Posse. The Posse is a volunteer organization. And making fun of people isn’t very cheritable and doesn’t really advance your views.

The Sheriff of Maricopa County can investigate fraud perputrated in the county. If fraud in the justification on getting on the ballot in the State of AZ (which includes the county) has been committed, I could see it as something he can validly investigate. At least up to a point. Prosecution however, would propably be moved out of county. And I frankly don’t see anyone eager to prosecute a possible forgery.

By the way, here is the latest press release out of the MCSO, this one about requesting the Selective Service to look into the draft card: (I don’t see that happening either):
mcso.org/MultiMedia/PressRelease/Director%20Romo%20Final.pdf

Of note, in the letter he defines the scope of the investigation and reason for it: “On behalf of the residents of Maricopa County, Arizona, my Office is conducting an on-going law enforcement investigation into the authenticity of President Barack Obama’s birth certificate and to the subsequent question of his eligibility to be placed on the 2012 Arizona ballot for the Office of President of the United States.”

From the short investigation that has occurred so far, he has reasonable suspician that something is wrong with the evidence provided by the White House. So he can ignore possible fraud, or investigate it further.

As someone said, he is doing his job and going where the evidence leads him.
 
Once again, Arpaio has as much standing in initiating a case as I do. He isn’t using Maricopa County funds for his “search”, is he? If people would rather throw money at The Posse than helping the poor or helping elect a candidate they prefer, that is their business. When I first read this, I really thought it was a joke, how sad it isn’t. :confused:
 
kozlosap said:
LOL! Arpaio is a joke and currently under investigation in his own state. I heard that Elvis and Tupac were seen wearing pink in his jail kingdom. 😃
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Don’t be too quick to pass judgment, snarky as it is.
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
Seemingly unprofessionally with that “ton of things.”

Do you expect that he will arrest the President if Obama comes to Arizona? Should be an interesting firefight between the Secret Service and Arpaio’s deputies if he tries to go that route.
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i guess you don’t watch the news. obama was already in arizona not too long ago.

there was a photo of governor jan brewer and obama on the tarmac. she was shaking her finger at him.
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
Of course, no one on this Forum was questioning the validity of the Obama marriage. I gave that as an example of another “doubt” that could be brought up, like the claims by the far right about Obama’s bonafides.

Again, I’m shocked that any Catholics on this Forum, people I consider to have some brains, would for even an instant buy into the WND crazy talk.

I suggest that those here who buy into that stuff write or call their GOP representatives and Congressional leaders and find out what their opinion is about Obama’s eligibility. 🤷
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As a lawyer, you know that the Certificate of Live Birth that was posted on whitehouse.gov is NOT the same legal document as a long form birth certificate. It took 3 years and an estimated 2 million dollars in legal fees by the Obama legal team in an effort to prevent release of the long form, only to release a 9 layer digital copy 3 years late. Why? What is there to hide? Imagine hwo many carbon credits could have been purchased with 2 mil.

Mike Huckabee suggested he release his college transcripts to see if he received foreign scholarship or loans. If he was born in Hawaii, then emigrated to Indonesia, then either he rrelinquished his Natural Born status, or he didn’t. If he did, then he returns as a Naturalized citizen who is inelgible. If he did not relinquish his Natural Born status, then he accepting a foreign scholarship is fraud if he was a US citizen all his life. If might be a technicality against the Constitution, but once we start ignoring the Constitution, where does it end?

The number of people who continue to place feelings ahead of facts is scary. Where’s the humility?
 
ManOnFire said:
Mike Huckabee suggested he release his college transcripts to see if he received foreign scholarship or loans. If he was born in Hawaii, then emigrated to Indonesia, then either he rrelinquished his Natural Born status, or he didn’t. If he did, then he returns as a Naturalized citizen who is inelgible. If he did not relinquish his Natural Born status, then he accepting a foreign scholarship is fraud if he was a US citizen all his life.
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I see a slight flaw in that argument. It is difficult to access whether anything is truly “foreign.” For example, I might procure a mortgage loan from a local bank but the original mortgage bond was bought by an American living in China and might be traded or packaged to a Mexican investor. Even the amount of “foreign” holdings in U.S. Treasuries is a guess. A lot of “foreign” governments hold them and that information isn’t exactly as public as you may wish it to be, or blown up for political reasons. U.S. money finds itself all over the world and even Bernanke doesn’t know where it is; he even admitted that before Congress.
If might be a technicality against the Constitution, but once we start ignoring the Constitution, where does it end?
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They should have thought about that when they created the Federal Reserve back in 1913.
 
ProVobis said:
I see a slight flaw in that argument. It is difficult to access whether anything is truly “foreign.” For example, I might procure a mortgage loan from a local bank but the original mortgage bond was bought by an American living in China and might be traded or packaged to a Mexican investor. Even the amount of “foreign” holdings in U.S. Treasuries is a guess. A lot of “foreign” governments hold them and that information isn’t exactly as public as you may wish it to be, or blown up for political reasons. U.S. money finds itself all over the world and even Bernanke doesn’t know where it is; he even admitted that before Congress.

They should have thought about that when they created the Federal Reserve back in 1913.
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We’re not talking about money. We’re talking about the eligibility of one person. If he is truly not eligible, then who and why? Why all the hiding and lack of transparency? In his own words: youtube.com/watch?v=yGfEzLlcO_s And worse yet, why all the blind, passionate believers? This type of thing happened in the holocaust? Scary.
 
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