Joe Biden Denied Holy Communion

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I wonder if Nancy peosi still goes to mass as she is a righteous Catholic?
 
Hopefully she goes to Mass, refrains from Communion, and is receiving intense Spiritual Direction.
 
Jeanne_S said:
There was a time when the lines to the confessional were longer than the line to receive the Eucharist. That has flipped .I think a good start would be for our priests to verbally announce before communion that if one is not the n a state of grace then abstain from receiving.
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Agree that there needs to be more catechesis on the relation between the sacrament of Reconciliation and the sacrament of the Eucharist. One would think that this is a such a basic teaching that all Catholics would know about it, but you would be surprised how many do not. I have heard young Catholics say that no one ever told them that they should refrain from receiving Communion if they have committed a grave sin and not yet been to confession. And I have heard older Catholics express some confusion as to whether the Church still teaches this or whether it was one of those things done away with after Vatican II.

The idea of an announcement is not bad, but in practice, I think it would cause embarrassment to those who remain in the pews during Communion, because it would call attention to them, and many people would find this humiliating. (Normally, I don’t think anyone notices or judges those who refrain, but an announcement risks focusing attention on them.) He would have to word such an announcment carefully and tactfully. Or else instead of an announcment, regularly teach about the Eucharist, including proper reception, in his homilies.
 
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It wasn’t his pastor.
The requirement of conferring before was not followed.
Who is truly worthy?
 
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I’m sure the media will have a field day with this, but I fully support the priest. How can you participate in an act so intimate as the Eucharist while publicly advocating for gravely sinful acts?
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I’m a bit disappointed by this… I dislike the ‘weaponizing of the Eucharist’ that some prelates have engaged in.

Plus, I reference Ratzinger’s letter to the US Bishops on Worthiness to Receive Holy Communion. General Principles
  1. Regarding the grave sin of abortion or euthanasia, when a person’s formal cooperation becomes manifest (understood, in the case of a Catholic politician, as his consistently campaigning and voting for permissive abortion and euthanasia laws), his Pastor should meet with him, instructing him about the Church’s teaching, informing him that he is not to present himself for Holy Communion until he brings to an end the objective situation of sin, and warning him that he will otherwise be denied the Eucharist.
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I would like to know if this priest met with Mr Biden (as the principles call for) before making a public spectacle of the situation
 
I honestly don’t see this as a public spectacle. Very publicly supporting a grave sin like abortion without repenting of it makes it pretty obvious one isn’t prepared to receive Communion, and I would say forces the priest’s hand. It’s a bit different than sinning privately where the priest doesn’t know. And how would the priest be able to meet with him before hand, unless Biden announce prior his attention to attend Mass there?
 
Yes, I most definitely agree and not for political reasons, but for concern of his soul. I want everyone to go to Heaven.

P.S., just wanted to add, I’m not judging VP Biden’s salvation, that is only for God to do obviously. I just don’t want any impediments to him getting to heaven.
 
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godisgood77 said:
Plus, I reference Ratzinger’s letter to the US Bishops on Worthiness to Receive Holy Communion. General Principles
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You picked #5, here is #4 from Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger’s 2004 letter ( Worthiness to Receive Holy Communion: General Principles)
  1. Apart from an individual’s judgment about his worthiness to present himself to receive the Holy Eucharist, the minister of Holy Communion may find himself in the situation where he must refuse to distribute Holy Communion to someone, such as in cases of a declared excommunication, a declared interdict, or an obstinate persistence in manifest grave sin (cf. can. 915).
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I would add that they should hear confessions 30 minutes before mass, instead of once on Saturday.
 
I understand all of that… I would suggest that the priest doesn’t know the state of Mr Biden’s soul and should project to the world that he does. It’s sad to see the Eucharist weaponized… it is not a prize for the perfect, but a medicine for the weak.

Let the one without sin cast the first stone…

Do not judge lest you be judged

You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.

Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in the way of a brother or sister.

“Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?”

Who are you to judge someone else’s servant? To their own master, servants stand or fall. And they will stand, for the Lord is able to make them stand.

Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.

There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you—who are you to judge your neighbor?
 
godisgood77 said:
I would like to know if this priest met with Mr Biden (as the principles call for) before making a public spectacle of the situation
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Probably not, because that parish is likely not Biden’s parish given that it’s in South Carolina, and I don’t believe Biden falls under any of the dioceses there. Point #5 calls for the pastor, not just any priest. And as @bookshelf cited from point #4, canon 915 is at play here.

If Biden wanted to avoid a public spectacle, he should not have presented himself for communion.
 
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Good point not re announcement to abstain.I have personally felt the humiliation more than a few times when I have had to abstain😨
 
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I agree.There are a few parishes here in my area that do this and it’s really a blessing.By and large,my parish included reconciliation is offered only one a week for a few hours and we are a huge parish to boot!
 
No disrespect to our former VP, but I am sure at his age and being a cradle Catholic he does know very well the grave sin of receiving while in Mortal Sin.
 
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