Joe Biden is practicing his Catholic Faith in a gravely deficient way

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Can you see the Senate under its current breakdown vote 2/3 in favor of Harris taking over?
Well, there is a phrase about giving someone enough rope that they hand themselves. If she ends up President (or should I say, "When…) and does not have enough sense to peddle down the demands of the far Left, she may be the best thing happening in terms of the next Presidential election.
 
Truly, how can anyone — conservative or progressive — expect things to get better in our country if this is our cry whenever our man doesn’t win?
You are expecting things to get better? I would suggest you have missed some critical news, and it is not about the 2 individuals running for office of the President - or three, if we want to take Kamala’s statement bout the Harris/Biden Presidency.

We have openly avowed Marxists running in our streets, and they have succeeded in convincing a number of jurisdictions to reduce police presence. Just recently, part of their group or one of its subsets apparently trailed a police officer to his or her home, and firebombed it. The Washington County Sheriff’s office is calling it arson.

In my book, the fracas about the votes pales in comparison.
 
If she ends up President (or should I say, "When…)
Actually I think you should say “If…”. There is absolutely no evidence of a plan such as was laid out, only wild supposition (and what some would call fearmongering) that I don’t believe was really thought through. Given the current divisiveness I don’t see either party giving the other what could be perceived as a “win”. And that, to me, is the saddest thing about all of this. We, all of us, need to stop pretending that the opposition is always the enemy and out to destroy the country. They aren’t.
You are expecting things to get better?
Expect? Not really. Hope? You betcha.
We have openly avowed Marxists running in our streets
Right along with openly avowed white supremacists. No ideology has a monopoly on violent tactics or extreme rhetoric. And just to clear the air, while I do not claim that DJT is personally racist (although I would say that he basically thinks every other single individual in the world is inferior to him) it is clear that he was very willing to encourage the divisive rhetoric and actions, if only by tepid or absent condemnation.
 
It is? I looked up and all I found was that he carries a rosary and regularly attends Mass. I do not know how often he says the rosary of course. But the record looks like he is practicing his faith.
How can one say that they’re practicing their faith while being in support of abortion?

The Pharisees were all about appearances, too.
 
Serious question, not trying to be snarky: what else is there to discuss? What nuance of this topic hasn’t already been kicked around a hundred times over?

Joe Biden is pro-choice and he shouldn’t be. It’s bad.
99% of us agree on that. But past that, what else is there to say on this topic?

I get that I can just ignore the discussion, and maybe I should, but it feels like every other thread is about the Joe Biden’s (bad) take on abortion. I don’t get why people find it appealing to repeat the same talking point in twenty different threads.
It’s because it’s got people worried. This can’t be something that just gets swept under the rug. People need to be reminded of this, because it’s not just a little throwaway thing; Biden supports killing babies in the womb. I don’t know about others, but I can’t just let that go. I can’t.
 
His personal convictions are likely different from his political leanings. I don’t think it’s anyone’s place to judge his faith.
If he allows his faith to bend to his desire for political power, then that says nothing good about him.
 
Biden is practicing his faith… it is impossible to not practice ones faith …your actions show your faith.
Biden’s actions show that he supports the killing of babies, which is antithetical to the Catholic faith.
 
It’s because it’s got people worried. This can’t be something that just gets swept under the rug. People need to be reminded of this, because it’s not just a little throwaway thing; Biden supports killing babies in the womb. I don’t know about others, but I can’t just let that go. I can’t.
I’m not asking you to “let it go”, but unless there is some new development, I don’t get the point of retreading the same ground over and over. Virtually no one on CAF except for spambots is unaware that Joe Biden is pro-choice.
 
Biden’s actions show that he supports the killing of babies, which is antithetical to the Catholic faith.
I agree with you Biden is bad on abortion…

Trump also supports killing of babies. He is adamant in his support of abortion in certain cases. He also supports the death penalty and has a diverse set of policies that good Catholics can disagree on relative to the immigrant, the poor, the elderly, the environment, etc.

When faced with two very bad candidates, an informed conscience will have to make a choice… and the election results have spoken
 
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Virtually no one on CAF except for spambots is unaware that Joe Biden is pro-choice.
A number of folks here don’t seem (or refuse) to understand the gravity of the situation. My thread title was a direct response to those who are saying “But he’s practicing his faith, look! He goes to Mass!”, or “Aw, we don’t know what’s going on in his heart or with his priest, leave him alone.”

My point is this: I’ll repeat it all until I’m blue in the face if even one person realizes that his actions don’t line up with his faith; it promotes the idea (to non-Catholics) that Catholics are becoming tolerant of abortion.

I can’t be silent about that.
 
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A number of folks here don’t seem (or refuse) to understand the gravity of the situation.
Or, an alternative, they do not agree with you, or perhaps do not agree brow-beating by repetition is an effective means to accomplish anything, at least as an adult.
 
Or, an alternative, they do not agree with you, or perhaps do not agree brow-beating by repetition is an effective means to accomplish anything, at least as an adult.
If they don’t agree, they can say so and have a discussion, or they can walk away. I’m not forcing them to read anything, so it’s hardly brow-beating.

I would also hazard that the adult thing to do is confront important issues. I’m ignoring your snark, because I’m trying to avoid sinking to that level in my discussions myself.
 
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Catholic moral teaching holds that abortion is the unjust taking of an innocent life. On that basis, the leadership of the church opposes the legalization of abortion and supports laws that protect the class of unborn persons. But Catholic teaching also provides ways for voters to evaluate candidates on the basis of abortion — and of other serious issues like the pandemic or racism. No Catholic is bound to vote on the basis of abortion alone.
 
No Catholic is bound to vote on the basis of abortion alone.
Not my point, though putting out small fires in your yard while a huge one destroys your house probably isn’t the wisest choice for anyone to make. (Also, we don’t have a problem with systemic racism in our country.)
 
Is it necessary for Catholics to enforce their own values on other individuals in order to properly practice the faith?

Catholics have a view on abortion which is entirely valid and legitimate.

However to say other’s views on abortion are equivalent to simply the mass murder of babies trivializes the complex feelings and thought processes one goes through when making such a difficult decision, because it is a difficult decision.

In a person’s own life there are things which they may stand for and believe.

But now we are talking about a political leader who is responsible for millions of people who all have different views and values. Therefore I do not think it is our place to judge Biden’s faith on his choice to provide those who wish to have abortions with the safe means to do so.
 
This can’t be something that just gets swept under the rug.
And starting 450 threads on it rather than 500 is not “sweeping it under the rug”. We are all well aware of Biden’s position, and we are all well aware of the usual claim of what Biden’s position is. Nothing here is hidden.
but I can’t just let that go. I can’t.
And nobody has asked you to. But does “not letting it go” always and everywhere mean bringing it up at every time that offers the slightest opportunity?
 
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