Joel Osteen

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1st Timothy 6 verses 6-7 for Godliness with contentment is great gain 7 for we brought nothing into this world,and it is certain we can carry nothing out True prosperity is contentment in knowing the Lord!!🙂
 
Why? Just brush your teeth and then hook one index finger in each side of your mouth. Stretch said mouth until the breaking point. Look into the mirror and now you have experienced Joel Osteen. Amen? Oh, one more thing. Send me a lot of money and then I’ll have experienced Joel Osteen. Amen?
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Be fair, they are taken tithes and offerings from a full NBA basketball stadium. From a security standpoint gettng it all together in a single location would take to long and provide a lure for the more aggressive and ambitious armed robber.
The point was that the poster never head him ask for money, but indeed they do, just not when the camera is on.
 
The point was that the poster never head him ask for money, but indeed they do, just not when the camera is on.
A church having time to ask for tithe and offerings is something to be ashamed of? So is it the general consensus that he is different from many Televangelist in that Lakewood Church does not solicit funds from viewers to keep their TV broadcast going?
 
Some people are just so “lost” or “spiritually damaged” that only someone with a lighter version of Christianity like Joel Osteen can start them on the path to Christ.

My prayer is that those who profess to become Christians by way of the Osteen message seek out a smaller and more intimate setting (Hopefully Catholic) and become involved in a true church community, not just a motivational talk on Sunday.
 
I think that there is no harm in observing any of these Protestants…Joel is not as good as his father. I liked his father better. Joel you know is not ministry trained…Listen to his dad and compare and contrast with his son…

youtube.com/watch?v=1kjwXjNHST0

I used to like Reverend Ike when I was young…he was the early health and wealth guy…

revike.org/

youtube.com/watch?v=lE-dXg5fChI

I like Charles Stanley…he is easy to listen to…

youtube.com/watch?v=CjilgJPjTNA

You ought to watch Kathryn Kuhlman…this is the person that Benny Hinn, Oral Roberts and the like hold in high esteem…

youtube.com/watch?v=mre2egig3Mc

Check out Billy Sunday…

youtube.com/watch?v=rVZ-J3c8_AY

Aimee Semple McPherson was one of the first megachurch builders…she was gonna Protestanize the world…

youtube.com/watch?v=ekQqSmIykRo&feature=fvwrel

this is the website of Angelus temple today…the fate of the megachurches of today…you probably never heard of matthew barnett…

angelustemple.org/

One of the best and for a compare and contrast would be Fulton Sheen…after you amuse yourself with all of the above…check out fulton sheen and watch every one of his videos to see what a Catholic Preacher can do…

youtube.com/watch?v=VX2NZTcqreY
More like CONFUSE yourself with the above. Why would you risk going down the wrong path as a CATHOLIC, with all of these Protestant preachers? I have listened to Christian radio on and off for years now, and in almost EVERY sermon, you will hear bits and pieces of anti-Catholic statements, and mistakes of every kind. She will hear Sola Scriptura and End Times and “saved by faith not works.” Those things are difficult to sort out when you don’t have a thorough grounding in the Truth.

A catechumen needs these like a hole in the head. She needs to stick to EWTN ONLY if she wants to watch any religious TV.
 
More like CONFUSE yourself with the above. Why would you risk going down the wrong path as a CATHOLIC, with all of these Protestant preachers? I have listened to Christian radio on and off for years now, and in almost EVERY sermon, you will hear bits and pieces of anti-Catholic statements, and mistakes of every kind. She will hear Sola Scriptura and End Times and “saved by faith not works.” Those things are difficult to sort out when you don’t have a thorough grounding in the Truth.

A catechumen needs these like a hole in the head. She needs to stick to EWTN ONLY if she wants to watch any religious TV.
I am an intelligent human being and I hope that you presume that others have at least the same or more intelligence. I am baffled by the blinders approach to learning. I spent years learning and spouting out Evolution Theory. It was a theory.

I believe that it is important to know what untruths are being spread to compare and contrast with what truths are being learned. Imagine a commitment to equality of humanity, you commit, you want to know, you engage in learning…and as part of that education you listen to those that oppose your thinking and what you are being taught. Do you suppose someone is too stupid to recogize the false teachings that are being espoused by those that speak against what you commit to and what is being taught and committed too?
 
Do you suppose someone is too stupid to recogize the false teachings that are being espoused by those that speak against what you commit to and what is being taught and committed too?
Not stupid, but misled. I think many who go to a church like Lakewood don’t know their own faith or may disagree with it, Hear a soft petal message that is delivered there and decide it is for them. They may or may not realize the the message is theologically in error, but is is what they want to hear because then they don’t have to truly examine their own lives and how they are living.
 
I am an intelligent human being and I hope that you presume that others have at least the same or more intelligence. I am baffled by the blinders approach to learning. I spent years learning and spouting out Evolution Theory. It was a theory.

I believe that it is important to know what untruths are being spread to compare and contrast with what truths are being learned. Imagine a commitment to equality of humanity, you commit, you want to know, you engage in learning…and as part of that education you listen to those that oppose your thinking and what you are being taught. Do you suppose someone is too stupid to recogize the false teachings that are being espoused by those that speak against what you commit to and what is being taught and committed too?
No, but I assume that someone just learning about the Catholic Church can be easily confused by the smooth talk of some Protestant preachers. The OP is only in RCIA and has no basis by which to judge these preachers or the denominations they belong to.

Chill out man.

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Not stupid, but misled. I think many who go to a church like Lakewood don’t know their own faith or may disagree with it, Hear a soft petal message that is delivered there and decide it is for them. They may or may not realize the the message is theologically in error, but is is what they want to hear because then they don’t have to truly examine their own lives and how they are living.
It’s like the nice parent who gives their child ice cream 3 x a day…Is that being nice, or being cruel to the child…Depriving him of nutrition, giving him cavities, etc. but the child loves eating ice cream 3 x a day.

Joel Osteen is an ice cream sundae with cherries on top.

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It’s better to watch Catholic tv such as EWTN. Although here and there they may bring up good points that we can agree on, overall it’s best to avoid any possible confusion and stick with Catholic tv, radio, and websites.
 
I am someone who is wanting to convert and I come from the world of the Joel Osteen and I am so confussed by everything and it is so overwelming to be taught one thing & now learn your were wrong. I have been reading a lot about the Catholic Church and I am very inspired by the Saints. I am really starting to get it. So yes if I go back to listening to the Joel Osteen’s of the word it can be confussing.
 
I am someone who is wanting to convert and I come from the world of the Joel Osteen and I am so confussed by everything and it is so overwelming to be taught one thing & now learn your were wrong. I have been reading a lot about the Catholic Church and I am very inspired by the Saints. I am really starting to get it. So yes if I go back to listening to the Joel Osteen’s of the word it can be confussing.
Rome Sweet Home by Scott Hahn is a good read. Good luck in your journey. 🙂

Sorry for going off subject.
 
Not stupid, but misled. I think many who go to a church like Lakewood don’t know their own faith or may disagree with it, Hear a soft petal message that is delivered there and decide it is for them. They may or may not realize the the message is theologically in error, but is is what they want to hear because then they don’t have to truly examine their own lives and how they are living.
Fab,

My posting was concerning a Catechumen and seeing what is going on out there. You responded to something that is not relevant to my posting.
A catechumen needs these like a hole in the head. She needs to stick to EWTN ONLY if she wants to watch any religious TV.
I am old and my brain sometimes does not work well. Tell me where you see me pointing any of my postings towards those that attend Lakewood.
 
“What do you think… as a Catholic, is it harmful to watch Protestant services like those of Joel Osteen?”

I suppose if one is looking for someone is fighting severe boredom and there’s nothing else to do. Comic relief? Maybe but that’s scraping the bottom of the barrel.
 
Fab,

My posting was concerning a Catechumen and seeing what is going on out there. You responded to something that is not relevant to my posting.

I am old and my brain sometimes does not work well. Tell me where you see me pointing any of my postings towards those that attend Lakewood.
Lakewood is Joel Osteen’s church, the OP is discussing his preaching and it’s context.
Hoprfully a Catechumen has found their true home in the Catholic Church and have no more intest in other churchs.
 
Lakewood is Joel Osteen’s church, the OP is discussing his preaching and it’s context.
Hoprfully a Catechumen has found their true home in the Catholic Church and have no more intest in other churchs.
The OP asked this question…
I’m in RCIA right now… do you think this would be harmful to my education?
Joel Osteen is in Lakewood…yes…we all agree on that.
 
What do you think… as a Catholic, is it harmful to watch Protestant services like those of Joel Osteen?

joelosteen.com/Broadcast/Pages/ThisWeeksMessage.aspx

I’m in RCIA right now… do you think this would be harmful to my education?

God bless all!
No, I was raised in the Catholic church and left in my teen years to attend Protestant churches after I was ‘saved’. I can honestly say that my exposure to Protestantism renewed my faith in the Catholic Church.
Joel Osteen is part of the ‘Word of Faith’ Christian movement. They believe that if you proclaim something in G-d’s name G-d will bless you with it. If you want a new job G-d will give it to you, if you need a better paying job just claim it and G-d will give it to you. According to people like Osteen there is no suffering for the ‘true believers’. Now they don’t come right out and say it, but do some research on ‘Word of Faith’ Christianity then read some of Kenneth Copeland’s and Osteen’s books and you will understand what they are really doing.
All I know is that so far in my life I have had it much better then my Savior did, but who knows what tomorrow will bring.
 
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