Joel Osteen

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Feels like he would be the perfect candidate to be the Anti-Christ.
His smug smile seems all fake, he gives me the willies, and it feels
like he is a cult leader.
 
As a Protestant, and a Texan living close to Houston where Joel Osteen is based, I need to clarify what you are saying here.

Joel Osteen is a good motivational speaker. He is however, not a solid or faithful preacher of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. If you want to hear teaching that will lift you up, make you feel good, and almost convince you that God is some kind of celestial vending machine that will give you whatever you want if you push the right buttons, then he is the man you want to listen to…

If you want to hear truth, and solid theology from the pulpit you need to RUN as far away from Joel Osteen and his teachings…

Catholic or not, Joel Osteen’s prosperity, health and wealth so called gospel is harmful to all who fall victim to it. It is not mainstream Protestant theology any more than Unitarianism is…

If you want to hear solid Protestant teachings, seek out well studied, and biblically founded teachers such as Dr. Adrian Rogers, Dr. R.C. Spraul (I probably misspelled his name), Pastor Ron Hindt (my Pastor), Billy Graham, and others.

A good test for any religious teacher is, where do they point? Teachers that point you to God, bringing yourself to get right, and stay right with him, and proving their teaching through God’s words are typically pretty solid, but you still need to be careful, Protestant, or Catholic, there are deceivers out there that will try to snare you into a false teaching…
sarahq said:
What do you think… as a Catholic, is it harmful to watch Protestant services like those of Joel Osteen?

joelosteen.com/Broadcast/Pages/ThisWeeksMessage.aspx

I’m in RCIA right now… do you think this would be harmful to my education?

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And last I saw, he was being driven around in a big Jaguar…

I can NOT emphasize enough, RUN from Osteen and the likes of him! No mention of the sacrifice on the cross, or the victory over the tomb, just push God’s buttons and out comes a new car! or whatever…

Makes me shudder to think that people call hucksters like him Protestant… How insulting!
randirhoades said:
Dear Friend,

That is true.

Further, Joel and his family live in a mansion that is worth 10.5 million dollars. His book sales have reached $3,000.000. And I bet he owns a plane. Just guessing.

Never went to Bible training or Seminary School or college.

Osteen’s preaching is liken to a concept from the occult world. Unfortunately Osteen’s message is far more dangerous that his “cotton candy” preaching and he doesn’t talk about sin. He talks about prosperity and wealth. (News).

Like others said> “RUUUUUNNNNN!”. And I say believe in the teachings of the true Church and what God actually says in Scripture. Oh and continue your classes. If you’re going to be a Catholic, you should study Catholicism. 🙂

One more thing, our local Priests aren’t wealthy at all and some live meager and have small Parishes. And they are well with it. I don’t think Joel Osteen would not like living that way. Well, he doesn’t.

Link to Joel’s home:

bing.com/images/search?q=Joel+Osteen+Family&FORM=IQFRDR#x0y480

Some pictures are of other things and people but you will be able to tell which is his home. When you see a thumbnail of his click on it to get a better look.

Love ya’ll,
Sheila
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dbhost said:
As a Protestant, and a Texan living close to Houston where Joel Osteen is based, I need to clarify what you are saying here.

Joel Osteen is a good motivational speaker. He is however, not a solid or faithful preacher of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. If you want to hear teaching that will lift you up, make you feel good, and almost convince you that God is some kind of celestial vending machine that will give you whatever you want if you push the right buttons, then he is the man you want to listen to…

If you want to hear truth, and solid theology from the pulpit you need to RUN as far away from Joel Osteen and his teachings…

Catholic or not, Joel Osteen’s prosperity, health and wealth so called gospel is harmful to all who fall victim to it. It is not mainstream Protestant theology any more than Unitarianism is…

If you want to hear solid Protestant teachings, seek out well studied, and biblically founded teachers such as Dr. Adrian Rogers, Dr. R.C. Spraul (I probably misspelled his name), Pastor Ron Hindt (my Pastor), Billy Graham, and others.

A good test for any religious teacher is, where do they point? Teachers that point you to God, bringing yourself to get right, and stay right with him, and proving their teaching through God’s words are typically pretty solid, but you still need to be careful, Protestant, or Catholic, there are deceivers out there that will try to snare you into a false teaching…
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He is nothing but a Dr. “Everything will be alright” He is motivational speaker with a twist of perverted scriptural verses in order to tickle one’s ears. I warn people to stay away from his sermons.
 
Go ahead and watch, he’s good for a laugh.

Keep in mind that he’s one of those “eternal salvation or triple your money back!” types. He personally doesn’t beg for money publicly that I’m aware of, outside of shilling for his books and other material products and charging for lectures, but he has his sister be the heavy and she demands offerings and tithes.

The summary of his message is: if you have enough faith then God will reward you with material riches. Oh, you’ve been faithful for years and you’re still poor? That’s just God putting you through hardship to make you a better person (as opposed to being a victim of Joel’s flawed message). But if “you” (read: Joel) does get rich and others are critical the his wealth being flaunted, weeeeellll, they don’t know what you or your family (read Joel and his family) has been through. Maybe a grandmother sat with her cancer-stricken husband and God decided to reward the family by making the grandchildren rich decades later. A “generational blessing” is what Joel calls it. Anyone who criticizes you (read: Joel) for flaunting riches is jus jellus.

He’s got a tidy little racket with everything sewn up on all sides with the money going one way - into his own bank account.
 
I like Osteen, no matter what anybody has to say about him. I often have a lot of negative going on in my head, so when someone turns on the TV and I hear him talking, he makes me think more positively for a moment.

But you just have to take what all these televangelists have to say with a decent amount of skepticism. Even Charles Stanley, I can recall, has had things to say that are contrary to the Church’s teachings.

A good exercise would be to take what you hear from the TV, and ask your priest questions. Can never stop learning about God.
 
Dymphna82 said:
I like Osteen, no matter what anybody has to say about him. I often have a lot of negative going on in my head, so when someone turns on the TV and I hear him talking, he makes me think more positively for a moment.

But you just have to take what all these televangelists have to say with a decent amount of skepticism. Even Charles Stanley, I can recall, has had things to say that are contrary to the Church’s teachings.

A good exercise would be to take what you hear from the TV, and ask your priest questions. Can never stop learning about God.
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I’ll tell you who makes me think more positively: Jesus Christ. Why have spam when one can have the real ham? 👍

Joel Olsteen preaches a false gospel!
 
Rabbity said:
Go ahead and watch, he’s good for a laugh.

Keep in mind that he’s one of those “eternal salvation or triple your money back!” types. He personally doesn’t beg for money publicly that I’m aware of, outside of shilling for his books and other material products and charging for lectures, but he has his sister be the heavy and she demands offerings and tithes.

The summary of his message is: if you have enough faith then God will reward you with material riches. Oh, you’ve been faithful for years and you’re still poor? That’s just God putting you through hardship to make you a better person (as opposed to being a victim of Joel’s flawed message). But if “you” (read: Joel) does get rich and others are critical the his wealth being flaunted, weeeeellll, they don’t know what you or your family (read Joel and his family) has been through. Maybe a grandmother sat with her cancer-stricken husband and God decided to reward the family by making the grandchildren rich decades later. A “generational blessing” is what Joel calls it. Anyone who criticizes you (read: Joel) for flaunting riches is jus jellus.

He’s got a tidy little racket with everything sewn up on all sides with the money going one way - into his own bank account.
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Jealous? To bad all his riches are not going to prevent him from dying someday and he certainly is not going to take it with him.
 
Dymphna82 said:
Yeah, I still like Joel Osteen. 😃
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Seriously, why do you like him or what is the attraction for you? I came from a charismatic church that heavily taught that stuff. At that time it was his father who was around then (along with a bunch of others.) While he may seems uplifting and positive, it really is a false gospel. His positive type message can be very addicting. There are so many wonderful Catholic books and materials to read and study that it is better in the long haul to stay away from a false gospel. The trouble with heresy is that the more you listen to it, the greater the difficulty it is to listen to truth. The health/wealth God want you always happy will not build up your faith and when storms of life come, you will find your house of faith build on a pile of sand that just blows away.
 
Rabbity said:
Go ahead and watch, he’s good for a laugh.
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Actually he is good for a good cry because too many watch and buy into what he is teaching.
There are better things to laugh at. joel Osteen is not funny at all.
 
Dymphna82 said:
Yeah, I still like Joel Osteen. 😃
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Sorry,but he preaches a false gospel. He never discusses how one must also suffer as Christ did. St.Paul also makes it clear in several of his epistles unlike Joel who is all about prosperity…material,not spiritual.
 
robwar said:
Seriously, why do you like him or what is the attraction for you? I came from a charismatic church that heavily taught that stuff. At that time it was his father who was around then (along with a bunch of others.) While he may seems uplifting and positive, it really is a false gospel. His positive type message can be very addicting. There are so many wonderful Catholic books and materials to read and study that it is better in the long haul to stay away from a false gospel. The trouble with heresy is that the more you listen to it, the greater the difficulty it is to listen to truth. The health/wealth God want you always happy will not build up your faith and when storms of life come, you will find your house of faith build on a pile of sand that just blows away.
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Nicea325 said:
Sorry,but he preaches a false gospel. He never discusses how one must also suffer as Christ did. St.Paul also makes it clear in several of his epistles unlike Joel who is all about prosperity…material,not spiritual.
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Yeah, I still like Joel Osteen. 😃

No amount of ranting against him, to me, is going to make me run away from my TV, screaming, so ya can stop now. I enjoy his show for what it is. I don’t expect any Protestant to preach true gospel, but I can take the positivity for what it is.
 
Dymphna82 said:
Yeah, I still like Joel Osteen. 😃

No amount of ranting against him, to me, is going to make me run away from my TV, screaming, so ya can stop now. I enjoy his show for what it is. I don’t expect any Protestant to preach true gospel, but I can take the positivity for what it is.
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Well you can listen to him all you want and no amount of rejections from anyone telling me he is okay will change the fact his preaching is not the Gospel of Jesus.
 
Ive seen him before on TV.
The audiences he gets are big and for some reason it makes me feel uncomfortable. It doesn’t feel like a church should be that way, I don’t know.
 
PumpkinSeed said:
Ive seen him before on TV.
The audiences he gets are big and for some reason it makes me feel uncomfortable. It doesn’t feel like a church should be that way, I don’t know.
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It is not. It is a stadium thus not a church per se as we all know and attend. He is nothing but a motivational speaker at a stadium calling a “church” to his followers. Yes…I know what church can mean and so forth,but I agree with your sentiments.
 
His prosperity Gospel has already been condemned by Catholic theologians as a ‘false doctrine’.

Doesn’t matter how many times you inform people, they want to be entertained and do as they please. 🤷
 
👍 He is good to listen to, uplifting, and we are called to see God in everyone. Like it or not-God is in him and uses him. He may even use him to bring some to Catholicism… Wow- what if he converted?!

I enjoy him from time to time. As long as we are strong in our beliefs- there is nothing or no one to fear. 🙂 I still won’t buy tickets to one of his appearances, but he is not all bad.
Dymphna82 said:
Yeah, I still like Joel Osteen. 😃

No amount of ranting against him, to me, is going to make me run away from my TV, screaming, so ya can stop now. I enjoy his show for what it is. I don’t expect any Protestant to preach true gospel, but I can take the positivity for what it is.
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Bix said:
👍 He is good to listen to, uplifting, and we are called to see God in everyone. Like it or not-God is in him and uses him. He may even use him to bring some to Catholicism… Wow- what if he converted?!

I enjoy him from time to time. As long as we are strong in our beliefs- there is nothing or no one to fear. 🙂 I still won’t buy tickets to one of his appearances, but he is not all bad.
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It’s not about fearing him. It’s about being discerning and making spiritually edifying decisions, it’s called the garbage in, garbage out principle.

Personally if his doctrines have been condemned by the Church that is enough for me not to listen to him. I realise other Catholics may not agree. 🙂
 
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