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7_Sorrows
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not joel olsteen. i have not listened to all of joseph prince’s sermons, but they don’t appear heretical to me.
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MartinJordan
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For a moment I thought he was on EWTN, that would shock me in a real bad way
As far as prosperity gospel, this is from his website :
Accepting Jesus as your Lord and Saviour will not only save you from sin and hell, but also give to you health, joy, peace, love, hope, unconditional acceptance, favour, the power to get wealth, all good things you can think of and more. :dts:
Atleast that was the link had before. Deosn’t seem to work now.
One of the statements of the core beliefs of New Creation Church is that “Jesus lead a sinless life” I wonder why they needed to state that.
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i know at the end of his televised sermons, there is a statement asking for people to give to their local churches. i haven’t seen him ask for money yet. maybe on his website he asks for donations i don’t know. i didn’t know what the name of his church was.For a moment I thought he was on EWTN, that would shock me in a real bad way
As far as prosperity gospel, this is from his website :
Accepting Jesus as your Lord and Saviour will not only save you from sin and hell, but also give to you health, joy, peace, love, hope, unconditional acceptance, favour, the power to get wealth, all good things you can think of and more. :dts:
Atleast that was the link had before. Deosn’t seem to work now.
One of the statements of the core beliefs of New Creation Church is that “Jesus lead a sinless life” I wonder why they needed to state that.
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MartinJordan
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Hmm. New Creation Church based in my country. Perhaps he’s affiliated with other churches in the US within one umbrella, helping each other out.
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7_Sorrows
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his church is based in your country? i guess i should google him and learn more about him. i am not even sure how long he has been televising his sermons. is he well known there and as popular as he is getting here in the u.s.?
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Miriam1947
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Prince
Joseph Prince, the son of a Sikh priest of Indian origin and a Chinese mother, [3]spent his primary school years in Perak, Malaysia.[3]
Prince changed his birth name to Joseph Prince during his previous occupation as an IT consultant. [3]
Prince has been invited to preach at churches in Australia, London, USA, Canada, Norway, Netherlands, South Africa and Indonesia.[4] Notably, he was invited to preach at the Grace & Favour Seminar at Hillsong Church[1][dead link] Sydney and Hillsong London[5] in 2006. In 2007 and 2008, he was invited to speak at the Hillsong Conferences in Sydney and London. In 2009, he was invited to speak, alongside Joel Osteen from Lakewood Church, at the 2 Days of Hope Conference held in Johannesburg, South Africa.[6]
Prince’s TV program “Destined to Reign” is broadcast in more than 150 countries. [7] His broadcast program is also streamed online through Internet and podcasts for viewers.[8]
Prince publishes books, CDs and DVDs.[9] In 2007, his book Destined to Reign: The Secret to Effortless Success, Wholeness and Victorious Living, which contains teachings from his ten years of preaching from 1997 to 2007, was published in Singapore [10] and the US. Six months after the book’s US release, it was listed as one of Christian Retailing’s Top 100 Books.[11] In 2010, Prince’s latest book “Unmerited Favor” was published worldwide by Charisma House.[12]
Prince was featured in the cover story of the June 2010 issue of the Charisma (magazine), which covered his preaching and teaching ministry.[13]
On October 29th 2011, Prince ministered in the US for the first time at Lakewood Church in Houston, Texas. He also preached at two more services the day after.
He makes approx. 500,000.00 per year. His church brings in approx. 55 million per year (as of 2009)
Joseph Prince, the son of a Sikh priest of Indian origin and a Chinese mother, [3]spent his primary school years in Perak, Malaysia.[3]
Prince changed his birth name to Joseph Prince during his previous occupation as an IT consultant. [3]
Prince has been invited to preach at churches in Australia, London, USA, Canada, Norway, Netherlands, South Africa and Indonesia.[4] Notably, he was invited to preach at the Grace & Favour Seminar at Hillsong Church[1][dead link] Sydney and Hillsong London[5] in 2006. In 2007 and 2008, he was invited to speak at the Hillsong Conferences in Sydney and London. In 2009, he was invited to speak, alongside Joel Osteen from Lakewood Church, at the 2 Days of Hope Conference held in Johannesburg, South Africa.[6]
Prince’s TV program “Destined to Reign” is broadcast in more than 150 countries. [7] His broadcast program is also streamed online through Internet and podcasts for viewers.[8]
Prince publishes books, CDs and DVDs.[9] In 2007, his book Destined to Reign: The Secret to Effortless Success, Wholeness and Victorious Living, which contains teachings from his ten years of preaching from 1997 to 2007, was published in Singapore [10] and the US. Six months after the book’s US release, it was listed as one of Christian Retailing’s Top 100 Books.[11] In 2010, Prince’s latest book “Unmerited Favor” was published worldwide by Charisma House.[12]
Prince was featured in the cover story of the June 2010 issue of the Charisma (magazine), which covered his preaching and teaching ministry.[13]
On October 29th 2011, Prince ministered in the US for the first time at Lakewood Church in Houston, Texas. He also preached at two more services the day after.
He makes approx. 500,000.00 per year. His church brings in approx. 55 million per year (as of 2009)
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MartinJordan
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Yes, he’s well known in Christian circles here and known also for being able to collect relatively humungous amounts of money in a very short time. Also recently in the news as a shrewd “businessman” in his endeavors as you can imagine. An 800m dollar mall cum “church” is being built as we speak where his church forked out half of that!
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MartinJordan
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Destined to Reign: The Secret to Effortless Success, Wholeness and Victorious Living,**
Let’s compare that with Mother Teresa :"God has not called me to be successful; He has called me to be faithful.” To me, it was a beautiful place, a place where people died in peace with God after being loved and cared for like angels. “I don’t want the work to become a business, but to remain a work of love,”
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mangy_dog
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A direct denial of Jesus’ command to Peter and the Apostles about the forgiveness of sins…and confession…?
It’s doesn’t surprise me. As a matter of fact it’s par for the course. Confession was instituted by Jesus Himself and handed not to the general public but to Peter-first pope- and the Apostles directly.
Confession is the inexhaustible source of renewable grace. Reject that and you reject grace.
This is yet another subject that the “Joseph Princes” of the world prance around very gingerly because it is so catholic.
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7_Sorrows
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thanks for the info.
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Dymphna82
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He’s Protestant. Of course he doesn’t believe in confession.
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