Joseph Smith - a look at the man

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PaulDupre:

Only in Islam and Mormonism is a martyr someone who dies while killing other people.

this is true. But one wonders about those who live while killing others as in “Blood Atonement”. Are they also to be considered a martyr? :whacky:

 

[PioAndrew]

BJ Colbert:

As for the title of this thread about the man Joseph Smith, I am in the middle of a book about him called “Remembering Joseph” personal recollections of those who knew the Prophet Joseph Smith. By Mark L. McConkie. It is a very wonderful book and tells the stories of real persons who knew him. It tells of many healings of the sick and of his personality and love for his people and his love of God. These people testify of the man and his character. It is written by members and non members alike, who all knew or met him personally. Not one had a bad word to say about this man. They all gave him the highest accolades a human being could receive. They told of his strength and faith, and his generosity and his immense love for all. I can’t even imagine where you are all digging up the things you say. Did these people know the man? Are they some of his enemies? He had many enemies, to the point he had a bodyguard. These enemies would have told any lies they could tell to besmirch his name and character. They hated him as Christ’s enemies hated him. Just more proof that he was a true Prophet of Jesus Christ’s Church. If he weren’t no one would pay any attention to him and his little Church. Just my humble opinion, worth nothing to you, I know.
BJ

You know it’s funny that you would bring all this up. When the Roman Catholic Church researches people who have the possibility of becoming saints they bring out all the medical reports, x-rays and everything to confirm that a miracle has happened. They look at the life of the person to see if they were a saintly person but there is another, if I stand correctly, who looks to see why this person should not be declared a saint, making sure that their life was worthy of emulation by others. The saints did not start their own churches but reinforced the teachings of Christ. Sure they may have started their own orders within the church, founded by Christ under the authority of the Holy Father but never strayed from the teachings that were given to us by Christ Himself.

PioAndrew

“Do you trust Christ? Then trust the Church that he founded.”

 

[stillsearching]

PioAndrew:

You know it’s funny that you would bring all this up. When the Roman Catholic Church researches people who have the possibility of becoming saints they bring out all the medical reports, x-rays and everything to confirm that a miracle has happened. They look at the life of the person to see if they were a saintly person but there is another, if I stand correctly, who looks to see why this person should not be declared a saint, making sure that their life was worthy of emulation by others. The saints did not start their own churches but reinforced the teachings of Christ. Sure they may have started their own orders within the church, founded by Christ under the authority of the Holy Father but never strayed from the teachings that were given to us by Christ Himself.

PioAndrew

“Do you trust Christ? Then trust the Church that he founded.”

Yes, thank you Pio. Those are the marks of true Saints. They are simply not self serving, and they do not look to impose their own will.