Indeed.
Neither were JS or BY when they were talking about this stuff…and that is allowed, you know, for prophets not to know everything. Knowing everything, after all, is called ‘omniscience,’ and I think that this quality is reserved for God, isn’t it? As well, if there has only ever been One perfect Man Who has ever lived, then every body else is IMperfect, up to and including JS and BY. Shoot, as I have mentioned at least once, even Moses is not only allowed to be imperfect, HE is allowed to have his imperfections canonized as scripture. After all, bats AREN’T birds.
No, they aren’t birds. However, the term translated “birds” is from the Hebrew 'op, which covers anything that flies. Be that as it may, we cannot compare such things to modern scientific classifications.
No… JS or BY imperfections do not mean they aren’t prophets or apostles. Them saying that there are dozens of different gods, that Christ was once not a god, etc. does.
You are kidding, right?
By the way, I saw that documentary too, and his support for the idea may be speculative, but NOT facetious.Why should you? WE don’t believe that his “I rather think that there are” statement of a belief that there might be life in/on the sun says anything one way or the other about his prophethood. If we don’t, why in the world should you?I agree there is a world of difference between so called prophets who claim direct revelation from God that is applicable (scripture) to all people and scientists who speculate about possibilities. I just thought it was funny.
In the original post I was going to add a disclaimer stating that in no way did I believe Youngs comment on solar life added any credibility to his claim to being a prophet, maybe I should have.
LOL! Does everyone like how dino disregarded the fact that the false prophets taught blasphemy (many Gods)You are kidding, right?
The point is, if you can accept one prophet who makes inaccurate scientific statements, then you cannot condemn another for making inaccurate scientific statements…and let’s face it: Moses’ inaccurate statements, being codified into law that actually could (and probably did) get women KILLED, were a little more pertinent to life, religious thought and the beliefs of those who followed him than whether Brigham Young ‘rather thought’ (and “I rather think there are” are his exact words, by the way) that there was life on/in the sun/stars.
…and no world renowned scientist has come along to support MOSES’ statements. One HAS come along to support BY’s, however speculative and facetious you think his support may be.
…by the way, the next time you claim that JS said, or wrote, that there were six foot men dressed like Quakers living on the moon, please provide the citation. That is, not a second hand 40 to 50 year old memory, but something JS wrote, or a speech to which more than one witness heard him say so. You know, something reasonable.
Gee, I wonder what would happen if I wrote 'typical Catholicism…[insert some random, incomprehensible and completely irrelevent charge here ]?"
WOW! temper, temper! some one has a short fuse
Now this is truly a strange post. You are claiming that there are over a billion Catholics (as well there should be; you guys have been around long enough!) but that the world isn’t going 'to fall victim" to Mormonism because there are 8 million Jehovah’s Witnesses?
Of course we can. You are claiming that BECAUSE JS and BY may have been incorrect about life on the moon and in the sun (and I say “may’ because we have no decent proof that JS said anything about men on the moon, and let’s face it; BY’s “I rather think there is” when speculating about life on/in the sun is not exactly a ringing 'Thus Saith the Lord!” proclamation, is it? ) that they are not prophets.
thank you. That’s the only point that needs to be made in this thread.
…and that is a topic for an entirely different thread, and is thus a bit of a red herring for THIS one.
‘dino?’
I never said that because JS and BY said there may be Quakers on the moon that means they are not prophets. A strong indication, maybe. However, my only point there was that Moses basing his classification of hares as cud chewing animals based on his observation that that is what it looks like they are doing, is quite different than saying there are people on the sun.
Inasmuch as there is an actual topic on this thread lol…and that is a topic for an entirely different thread, and is thus a bit of a red herring for THIS one.
Why because of Dino? really? in your own little world
ARRAGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH…[cough…wiping keyboard keys…picking up my soda…]I was, actually
Something reasonable…like, God having physical relations with Mary?
I did
I tend not to suffer foolishness well, especially on days when my computer crashes AND I get a traffic ticket.