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Unfortunately for him, this is arguable the worst era in the history of the world to reign in, no?😦
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That is no excuse for the Pope to be a bad Pope. The excuse that this is the worst era in history is an opinion not a fact.
 
I think JP II is a great Pope. I don’t expect my priests, bishops or the Pope to be perfect and in hindsight there are things he may have done differently, haven’t we all. 🙂

I also believe he will one day be named a Doctor of the Church due to his wonderful writings and teaching.

With luck, we will have many more years of his papacy, but I pray that our next Pope be similar theologically but perhaps a stronger administrator and take a firmer hand with dissenters.
 
I think he is one of the greatest popes in Church history if not in modern times. At least, he is one of the greatest teaching shepherds of modern times.

He will certainly go down in history as Pope St. John Paul the Great!!
 
Perhaps my view is a bit skewed. (JPII is the only Pope that I have ever known.) I truly believe him to a very good Pope and a living saint. I do wish that he would take a firmer hand with dissident bishops and common abuses in the Mass. (Though I am glad to see the Vatican starting to crack down–so maybe it is changing.) However, I do believe that he has been a promoter of peace in the world while simultaneously remaining true to the Faith.
 
If you want a Saint Pope go to St.Pius X or St.Pius V. They are already Saints. St.Pius V had a great devotion to the Blessed Virgin Mary and declared October 7 Our Lady of the Rosary’s feast. St.Pius X was a courge of the modernists, rea some of his encyclicals. They’re good for you. Also Pope Pius IX [is he a blessed or venerable?] his Sylabus of Errors is a Catholic manifesto against the modern scourges against the Church. He also made the Immaculate Conception a DOGMA.
 
Since I punched the bottom chad, I am supposed to say why. JP II is clearly a holy man. IMHO he is also an appalling leader. For better or for worse, the pope has to be seen to be a good person, a strong leader, and a competent scholar. JP II is two out of three. I have to agree with his self-assessment: he should have been firmer. After Paul VI let the genii out of the bottle, his successor needed to guide it a whole lot better.
 
Yes, St. Pius X was probably the best Pope which ever lived. He did so much for the Church it’s amazing.
 
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Also Pope Pius IX [is he a blessed or venerable?] his Sylabus of Errors is a Catholic manifesto against the modern scourges against the Church. He also made the Immaculate Conception a DOGMA.
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Ah! Pio Nono…Yes a great pope…Also Papal Infallibility (Vatican I)?🙂
 
His Holiness, John Paul II, is a great leader and exercised his apostolic role with great energy. He has reached out to Catholics and catechised them. He has found lost sheep and brought them home. God has certainly blessed His Church with the Holy Father’s Pontificate.
 
John Paul II is a Pope so full of love, love of Christ and love of Christ’s people…love radiates from his great soul and I think that if we could really see him without the hindrance of our own sins, and the limitations of our earthly eyes, we would be flooded with light and understanding. A child of God, beloved of God, in a special way leading us and teaching us and praying for us all. Each of us is unique–each has stong points and weaker points but Karol Wotyla has totally given himself, strong parts and weak parts, in a heroic way, to the love and service of Jesus, through the loving heart of Mary…we are blessed to have him among us. He is a great Christian and a great Pope.
 
It’ll probably take 200 or 300 years to hash it out and come with a definite evaluation.

It will take time for the RCC to digest the huge meal of changes brought in and/or implemented fully by John Paul. If those changes, changes which many times started before John Paul but fully implemented under his reign, things like mass facing the people, relaxed communion rules, etc., are successful in increasing the RCC, John Paul will be truly “the great”.

If his successors find the changes need to be curtailed, the verdict will be quite different.
 
I think that JPll has done many great things. OTOH sometimes I scratch my head and wonder at some of the things he gives his tacit approval to or even encourages, and the few things he pounces on with all four feet.

But, I tell myself that he is the pope, and while not above criticism he has far more knowledge and holiness than I, and God made him pope, not me(LOL)!

As another poster said, it is too early to tell how everything JPII has done will pan out in the annals of church history.
 
3 guesses, lol.

I agree, there are many things I wish he would have (NOT would of) been more firm on, especially liturgical abuses that are so widespread today, but his writings are invaluable. I would not be surprised if someday he becomes a doctor of the Church, for his philosophical and theological writings. Especially the theology of the body. And his personal orthodoxy is so important in these chaotic times. So, I love him, and let’s just pray that the Lord will continue to guide him and prepare the heart of his successor.

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John Paul II is a Pope so full of love, love of Christ and love of Christ’s people…love radiates from his great soul and I think that if we could really see him without the hindrance of our own sins, and the limitations of our earthly eyes, we would be flooded with light and understanding. A child of God, beloved of God, in a special way leading us and teaching us and praying for us all. Each of us is unique–each has stong points and weaker points but Karol Wotyla has totally given himself, strong parts and weak parts, in a heroic way, to the love and service of Jesus, through the loving heart of Mary…we are blessed to have him among us. He is a great Christian and a great Pope.
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I totally agree, A GREAT POPE, A GREAT MAN, totally in God’s Will. The fall of Communisim the Consecration of the World to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, Fatima, etc. Very beloved by Our Lady! He is preparing all of us for the future by his writings.

Has anyone read what Padre Pio felt about him. He even told him he would be Pope one day! Called by God and given to us as a great gift!

God has been so merciful to us!
 
Count me in on the “Great Pope” list: Pope St. John Paul II, the Great, Doctor of the Church: The Doctor of Human Dignity.

I read somewhere that when he was first consecrated Bishop (at age 38 or 39), the Archbishop introduced him to the chancery in Poland by saying: Habemus Papam!
 
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