Jupiter is Melting

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seekerz said:
Different gases in the atmosphere means that the effects of the same heat source on both is likely to be poorly comparable.
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Not to mention difference in gas density, strength of gravitational pull, tidal effects of it’s moons, etc, etc, etc.
 
Dale_M said:
The concern about climate change on Earth isn’t that it is occurring,. We know from history climate change has been a regular feature. The concern is that human activity is causing changes in Earth at a rate unseen in history.

Similarly, the concern with Jupiter is that human activity is driving global warming on the King of the Planets. So far we have sent eight probes to the Jupiter, for a gravitational wind-up if not actually to study the Jovian environment.

Obviously, these artificial satellites with which we have besieged poor Jupiter has created unprecedented tidal forces. And those forces are the cause of the massive warming of the core. So the question arises: should we cancel future missions to Jupiter? Is it right to sacrifice a planet for the temporary, and limited, good of a few humans?

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I’m glad you put the winkie at the end. I was starting to think I woke up in the Twilight Zone…😃
 
seekerz said:
Different gases in the atmosphere means that the effects of the same heat source on both is likely to be poorly comparable.
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So the amount of heat from the heat source isn’t a factor? Science says otherwise.
 
seekerz said:
Different gases in the atmosphere means that the effects of the same heat source on both is likely to be poorly comparable.
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Exactly Jupiter is a far different planet from Earth. For instance according to this. skepticalscience.com/global-warming-on-jupiter-intermediate.htm Jupiter only receives 4% of the suns energy received by earth and radiates more the twice the heat it receives from the sun. Not to mention there has been no warming trend in solar output if anything maybe a small decline. But yeah Jupiter is just vastly different from Earth.
 
Calliso said:
Exactly Jupiter is a far different planet from Earth. For instance according to this. skepticalscience.com/global-warming-on-jupiter-intermediate.htm Jupiter only receives 4% of the suns energy received by earth and radiates more the twice the heat it receives from the sun. Not to mention there has been no warming trend in solar output if anything maybe a small decline. But yeah Jupiter is just vastly different from Earth.
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In other words, what is predicted is not global warming on Jupiter but a change in the distribution of heat with the equator getting hotter and the poles cooling. It’s also worth mentioning this climate change is yet to be observed - it’s a prediction based on the **modelling **of the disappearing white ovals.
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We’ve all seen how modeling the Earth’s climate has worked out. Any reason to believe they can model Jupiter’s any better?
 
And no one said the Earth’s climate isn;t effected by the sun either. However right now based on the evidence we have seen the current warming does not appear to have the sun as its main cause. That link basically claims scientists ignore the sun which isn;t true at all. No we do know the sun is a very big factor in climate its just the current global warming and what we see in the sun do not line up. But these might be interesting reads. realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2011/06/what-if-the-sun-went-into-a-new-grand-minimum/

realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2011/08/the-cerncloud-results-are-surprisingly-interesting/

And if you look this stuff up at skepticalscience there is some good stuff to I think.
 
SamH said:
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We’ve all seen how modeling the Earth’s climate has worked out. Any reason to believe they can model Jupiter’s any better?
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Actually while models are not perfect they are pretty good at modeling the earths climate. It also helps a lot that we have alot more data on the earth then we have Jupiter. skepticalscience.com/climate-models-intermediate.htm And we also have direct evidence of the earths warming and evidence to support that it is humans causing much of it.
 
Calliso said:
And we also have direct evidence of the earths warming and evidence to support that it is humans causing much of it.
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Well, yeah, if carbon dioxide is the primary cause of it. But then how do we get everyone to stop exhaling? 🙂
 
ProVobis said:
Well, yeah, if carbon dioxide is the primary cause of it. But then how do we get everyone to stop exhaling? 🙂
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Well if you believe alex jones, the answer is fema concentration camps, chemtrails, etc dished out by men in black

I forgot some thing… oh yea my meds, happy time
 
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