Just what is "common sense gun control?" How about a few examples?

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SuperLuigi said:
As Ben Shapiro says “facts don’t care about your feelings”.
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He says this too:

So on March 4, Shapiro “came out” as a #NeverTrump proponent on the Daily Wire:

I will never vote for Donald Trump because I stand with certain principles. I stand with small government and free markets and religious freedom and personal responsibility. Donald Trump stands against all of these things. He stands for Planned Parenthood and trade restrictions and targeting of political enemies and an anti-morality foreign policy and government domination of religion and nastiness toward women and tacit appeals to racism and unbounded personal power. I stand with the Constitution of theUnited States, and its embedded protection of my God-given rights through governmental checks and balances. Donald Trump does not. I stand with conservatism. Donald Trump stands against it.
I stand with #NeverTrump.
 
Jamie5 said:
I will never vote for Donald Trump because I stand with certain principles. I stand with small government and free markets and religious freedom and personal responsibility. Donald Trump stands against all of these things. He stands for Planned Parenthood and trade restrictions and targeting of political enemies and an anti-morality foreign policy and government domination of religion and nastiness toward women and tacit appeals to racism and unbounded personal power. I stand with the Constitution of theUnited States, and its embedded protection of my God-given rights through governmental checks and balances. Donald Trump does not. I stand with conservatism. Donald Trump stands against it.

I stand with #NeverTrump.
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None of this invalidates what I said earlier.

Stop using deflections and logical fallacies.
 
Inisfallen said:
This is the best deflection yet. "America doesn’t have a problem with gun homicides. It’s the fault of a “particular demographic”!

Yes, starshiptrooper, we know who you mean. You manage to inject your vile racial garbage into just about every thread you take part in.
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It’s not a “deflection”, it’s a fact. If the politicos really wanted to understand and take steps to reduce gun-related crime, they would begin by focusing on those communities that have such high rates. YOU interjected race as a deflection. In reality, it’s about drugs, mental health, poverty, gangs, ignorance and other issues.
 
Inisfallen said:
No surprise there. All you brave realists just telling it like it is, right? While the rest of us are too chicken to speak the truth. Got it.
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Seems to me you fear the truth. You attacked the delivery rather than the substance of his statement. If he said anything incorrect, I think both of us would like to hear it. I would, at least.
 
starshiptrooper said:
If not for the actions of a particular demographic, the US homicide rate would be much lower, about 50% of what it is now.
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The prime demographic is poverty. Not any particular race.

There’s gun crime here in Appalachia. Pretty much everyone here is white.
 
Vonsalza said:
The prime demographic is poverty. Not any particular race.

There’s gun crime here in Appalachia. Pretty much everyone here is white.
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Does this mean that we should divert federal resources away from urban areas and into Appalachia?
 
SuperLuigi said:
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Vonsalza:
The prime demographic is poverty. Not any particular race.

There’s gun crime here in Appalachia. Pretty much everyone here is white.
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Does this mean that we should divert federal resources away from urban areas and into Appalachia?
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Only if you really like red herrings! 🙂
It means the problem isn’t racially driven.

Being black (or any other minority) isn’t the root-problem. Being poor is.
 
starshiptrooper said:
How do the stats compare?
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The stats can absolutely be used to mistakenly suggest that it’s a “black problem”.

But if the same behavior can be observed in non-black areas, then there’s pretty good evidence for race not being the prime issue.

Most urban blacks are poor. The vast majority of non-black folks that commit gun crime are also poor. From this, one can very reasonably conclude that race isn’t the problem.
 
Vonsalza said:
The stats can absolutely be used to mistakenly suggest that it’s a “black problem”.

But if the same behavior can be observed in non-black areas, then there’s pretty good evidence for race not being the prime issue.

Most urban blacks are poor. The vast majority of non-black folks that commit gun crime are also poor. From this, one can very reasonably conclude that race isn’t the problem
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Thank you. It’s sad that this has to be stated on a Catholic forum. We shouldn’t be buying into this “race realist” nonsense.

No race is inherently more inclined towards crime or gun violence than another. We’re all afflicted with original sin and we all have the same capacity for good and evil.
 
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You dodged the question. Controlling for income disparities, is there any proof that crime rates between races are the same?
 
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The system does not work. Gun rights are natural rights.

A gun is nothing other than something that shoots out a projectile.

Those who are demanding gun control are deceived by the media as to the need for gun control. They have “media minds” and “obsessive fear” of little objects that shoot out a projectile which are the same objects that they don’t understand.

Are we to outlaw snakes next b/c they cause people fear? Do we need a campaign against “snake terrorism”? How about mice? The probability of getting bit by a snake is higher than that of getting shot by a gun as you go about your daily business. The probability of dying in a car accident is higher than dying in gun violence. Are we to outlaw cars?
 
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If you want to minimize your chance of getting caught up in gun violence, stay away from parts of Chicago.

Now that’s some common sense.
 
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This is a really empty argument. A snake is a reptile, a mouse is a rodent, a car is a means of transportation. A gun is a weapon designed to kill - that’s its only function.

You can fall off a ladder and break your neck, but that doesn’t change the primary function of a ladder. It’s an unrelated accident.
 
Outlaw the wrong act; not the object.

The object has a useful purpose.
 
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Nuclear bombs have ZERO useful purpose. They can truly kill us all. Even the creator fam’Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.’
 
I’m going to start calling you nuke.

Please don’t send me emails.
 
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