Justify your pro-abortion stance

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Thank you! Yes, women are not inactive containers. If I didn’t take the actions I did during my pregnancy (stop working, get care, sit for months in the hospital) my baby would be DEAD. People need to realize you can’t force someone to be a Mom, to give up drinking, smoking, eat the right foods go to the appointments, endure the sickness, and on and on. But if you can get her to see herself as a Mom she’ll fight that battle, thank God I had the options available to me I did.

And I saw a lot of women and teenagers enduring more than I did (they didn’t have to be there we have no abortion law). One woman had a seizure as she walk back to her room, there was a teenager with no family support who had a 5 pound baby by c section trying to breastfeed, one woman spend two weeks with preeclampsia puking her guts out trying to hang on a few more days. How much do we take away from them before they break, before they can’t go on.
 
You do know that it’s God who creates life not us and in doing so… He will provide for the person. If as you say that child doesn’t have the life the parents envisage cos the job is hard and appears unsatisfying… does it not occur to you that that may be what God has given that child? a struggle in which to sanctify his/her self for a greater glory in heaven. What ‘job’ we have here on earth means next to nothing in heaven it is the way we handle it and the joy we bring to others with it and our life in general that matters. We can do that in any situation (the poverty of the worst kind or the good life of respectable prosperity - the latter is harder!!) with the assistance and grace of Our Lord if only we and our parents trust in him who made us. We do something to make a child, yes, but God puts the soul in there and so takes responsibility for that person for eternity. It’s not up to us to take that from God, it’s difficult at times, yes, but we have to trust in His providence… it will never ever let us down. What is meaningful in our eyes may not be in God’s eyes… remember God’s ways are not our ways… but His ways are always best.
 
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Dovekin said:
What would that justice look like? Most pro-life people that I have encountered do not take this position. They want to stop abortions, not punish those who have aborted. That is why I do not understand the push for the criminalization of abortion. What justice do you want? Punishment? Rehabilitation? Vengence?
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Yes, I am pretty sure I have heard Fr. Frank Pavone speak on this and he did encourage mercy and help rather than punishment be given to the mother. Many women today suffer from PTSD after an abortion and that suffering can be pretty severe. Also, as I said many times women were not alone in their decision. I am not excusing her but realizing we can not read her heart and her situation. Women need help, mercy and kindness.

Changes in law though would determine what future justice would look like. If regulations are put into place, then disobeying those regulations would involve judicial consequences.
 
Dovekin said:
Ensoulment IS the moment when “it” becomes an individual human being.
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What matters is when it becomes an individual life determining it’s own growth. That is at conception. Ensoulment is up for debate
 
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