Up until this so-called 4th century Council, numerous gospels were in circulation, in the hands of ‘People of the Way’.
John 1:1-3: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God; all things were made through him, and without him was not anything made that was made. (RSV)
rbrownr, from where did Charles Taze Russell get his authority to interpret scripture and claim otherwise to what this council concluded?
This 4th century council organized the same scriptures your founder used to interpret his own version of Christianity. So if you don’t accept their ruling on the Divinity of Christ, you can’t accept any of their rulings (including the canon of the Bible). If the canon of the Bible is wrong, then you can’t possibly believe in anything about Jesus, including His death and resurrection. So your whole religion is based on a lie. Not only that, but you are also in direct contradiction with your own sect which accepts the New Testament canon.
Hi, Sufjon,
Thank You PRMerger for the clarification. I now understand that your scriptures do not claim all who come in the name of the Lord to be blessed. I had thought that they did, and found it rather a nice thing. Anyway, I will humbly submit that in spite of that they will be treated as blessed when they come to my door, which is in accordance with the faith I am familiar with. Whether they are Jehovah’s Witnesses, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish or whatever, my faith requires that I look to see God behind every face, and to treat them accordingly. I suppose the heart of my comment was that I didn’t understand the divisions between the Jehovah’s Witnesses at the door and the poster in the opening post of the thread. Both are followers of Jesus. I am sure both are in His heart, and both will be with Him, because it is Him that they seek. I think their Father will come to greet them without regard to the path they came to Him on. While I find much of what I see in Christianity to be hard to fathom, I will continue to try to learn.
John 1:1-3 is mistranslated. Btwy, these are not Jesus’ words. So these words of a certain unknown “John”, has nothing to do with “Divinity” in question.
Do JWs only take as inspired the words of Jesus in Scripture? Or do they consider the words of Paul, Peter, John etc inspired?
Indeed. Our Scriptures say that there will be many wolves in sheep’s clothing.
What causes divisions are divisions in Truth.
All four gospels picked by a council in 4th century by a group of people, are no more than books of biographies in which their unknown authors quoted some words of Jesus out of what they heard from other uknown people. They were not the eyewitnesses of any actual happening/Jesus life. None of these are inspired by God, as they are contradictory.
Are you saying that the Bible is not divinely inspired?
PR, JW’s view the WTBS as inspired and the final authority. They do view scripture as inspired per se, but only as far as it does not conflict with their doctrines. They tend to focus more on Paul’s epistles then they do the Gospels. Hence the reason for them to have produce the NWT version of the bible so it would support their beliefs, something that their bibles of the first half of the 20th century that they used certianly did not support.
JW’s never cease to amaze me.
The Bible per se cannot be divinely inspired.
So what is truth? If the “Text” is not divinely inspired, I guess Revelation, which contains the number “144,000” is unreliable?
So how is it that you know anything about Jesus and what God has revealed?
got on the line with an elder, explained very politely why I did not want any witnesses to come over, wished him a nice day, and the “elder” said he would make sure they don’t come back. I sure hope that is the case. I had a sneaking suspicion they’d be over here before Halloween and sure enough, they were. Dropping off their “literature” as they like to call it. I sure hope they don’t come back. I have no desire to see them. They’ll be back in our neighborhood at Christmas time. Like clock work. Handing out their “magazines”.
Trying to take souls from God. Well, this is one soul they will never get. no matter how hard they try, they aren’t nabbing my soul like they did to a friend of mine.