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[TraditionalCath]

Strategies of the Jehovah’s Witnesses

“Not Interested in Witnesses”

If the person is more specific still and says, “I’m not interested in the Jehovah’s Witnesses,” the missionaries give this kind of response: “Many folks tell us that. Have you ever wondered why people like me volunteer to make these calls even though we know that the majority of householders may not welcome us? (Give the gist of Matt. 25:31-33, explaining that a separating of people of all nations is taking place and that their response to the Kingdom message is an important factor in this. Or state the gist of Ezekiel 9:1-11, explaining that, on the basis of people’s reaction to the Kingdom message, everyone is being ‘marked’ either for preservation through the great tribulation or for destruction by God.)”

Here you see peeping out one of the Witnesses’ peculiar doctrines—they don’t believe in hell. They think the unsaved are annihilated and simply cease to exist. Only the saved will live eternally. If the person at the door says, “I have my own religion,” he should be asked, “Would you mind telling me, Does your religion teach that the time will come when people who love what is right will live on earth forever? … That is an appealing thought, isn’t it? … It is right here in the Bible (Ps. 37:29; Matt. 5:5; Rev. 21:4).”

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[Joe_Monahan]

The OP has indicated that he began this thread and posted links to the videos to afford an opportunity for those involved in this forum to see and understand info regarding the JW’s “internal operations and activities world wide.” He notes that “The information in these videos is generally not known to people whom JW’s call on.”

As one of the major purposes of the NCR forum is to provide an opportunity for non-Catholics of various faiths to educate Catholics and others regarding their beliefs, praxis, etc, this is an acceptable discussion topic here and should be viewed as an opportunity to understand evangelization techniques employed by JWs and, if desired by the thread’s participants, compare them to those of other faiths - Catholic and non-Catholic

Joe Monahan

 

[paarsurrey]

The OP has indicated that he began this thread and posted links to the videos to afford an opportunity for those involved in this forum to see and understand info regarding the JW’s “internal operations and activities world wide.” He notes that “The information in these videos is generally not known to people whom JW’s call on.”

As one of the major purposes of the NCR forum is to provide an opportunity for non-Catholics of various faiths to educate Catholics and others regarding their beliefs, praxis, etc, this is an acceptable discussion topic here and should be viewed as an opportunity to understand evangelization techniques employed by JWs and, if desired by the thread’s participants, compare them to those of other faiths - Catholic and non-Catholic

Joe Monahan

Hi

I agree with you. This is the right approach. If JWs are doing things that are peaceful and legal, the Catholics should reciprocate the same with peaceful and legal activities of their own. Truth would prevail, nothing to worry about.

If the JWs have installed computers that translate their religious literature in 140 languages at a time , the Catholics have the potential of doing it in all the languages of the world being truly more resourceful and dedicated and the most experienced.

Thanks

GodAllahYHWH is All-Knowing and All-Wise; one should invariably give straight passages for Claim and Reason on all important issues from one’s Revealed Book that would make one more rational, reasonable acceptable to the secular masses at large. Any faith that tries that and is successful in doing that is sure to win the race of winning hearts globally, in my opinion.

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[dawgfan]

Part 4

From initial research and writing to printing and binding as much as 2 years may have elapsed.

Gosh, I hope that if Jehovah gives any forewarning about the upcoming armageddon, he allows for sufficient time for the publication and distribution.

 

[hosemonkey]

I was re-watching some of these videos today… I particularly enjoyed Part 5 which showed an inside view of the Patterson Educational facility where Circuit and District Overseers are trained.

Also interesting is the inside view into the Giliad training for those entering the full-time international missionary services.

Other than this video, you’ll likely never have the chance to see this inside view.

Part 5: youtube.com/watch?v=A5lBv2wUrzU

BibleSteve, what is your religious affiliation? Are you a JW? I consider anyone who does not come straight out with their religious affiliation (or lack of one) to be dishonest and flying false colors. If you are a JW or a JW stooge, come out and say so. I dislike dishonesty.

 

[paarsurrey]

BibleSteve, what is your religious affiliation? Are you a JW? I consider anyone who does not come straight out with their religious affiliation (or lack of one) to be dishonest and flying false colors. If you are a JW or a JW stooge, come out and say so. I dislike dishonesty.

Hi

I agree with you. If BibleSteve is a JW he/she should admit it, then face the questons boldly, and only truth would prevail. Why to conceal faith? Unless one is not sure of one’s being on truth.

Thanks

I quote from the PromisedMessiah, to make it convenient for my Catholic friends to convert me to their cherished faith, if they refute his argument and the argument exceeds that of his arguments; since I being steadfast on my faith I keep a window or door open to welcome the truth from anywhere it comes to me. The Catholics are in contest with him directly in this way.

 

[TraditionalCath]

BibleSteve, what is your religious affiliation? Are you a JW? I consider anyone who does not come straight out with their religious affiliation (or lack of one) to be dishonest and flying false colors. If you are a JW or a JW stooge, come out and say so. I dislike dishonesty.

yes, he is a jw.

 

[hosemonkey]

yes, he is a jw.

Steve, if you are a JW, then you are in the grip of a mind-controlling cult. Your religion is false, your doctrine is faulty and the tactics of JW’s are devious at best and dishonest at worst. I have no use for any religion that will not support and defend the nation that guards their freedom to spread their untruths. Your doctrine of refusal to serve the nation allows you to sit back while nobler men defend you. As a veteran, I find that repugnant. You reject the flag that my comrades died for. Shame on you.

 

[BibleSteve]

I have no use for any religion that will not support and defend the nation that guards their freedom to spread their untruths. Your doctrine of refusal to serve the nation allows you to sit back while nobler men defend you. As a veteran, I find that repugnant. You reject the flag that my comrades died for. Shame on you.

I’m sorry you feel as you do.

Perhaps you can feel better to know that not one of your friends, family, or comrades has ever been killed in any war by one of Jehovah’s Witnesses. Your fallen friends were killed by members of other religions. What religion were those who killed your comrades? Any of them Christian?

Also, you may take satisfaction knowing that because of their peaceful stand, JW’s were imprisoned, beaten into unconsciousness until they could spit their teeth out, and often executed.

For example, Here’s what happened to those German JW’s who refused to fight against you and your comrades in WWII:

jw-media.org/edu_videos/vcfi_e.htm

Here’s the torture Korean JW’s received for refusing to kill you and your comrades in the Korean War:

jw-media.org/vnr/5263723221/62734221.htm

Please enjoy seeing how these shameful JW’s are currently being treated:

tinyurl.com/24hssn
tinyurl.com/2yzd4w
tinyurl.com/yruzz8

This physical violence against JW’s was just as intense in the US, and Canada, and many other countries around the world. It continues today.

JW’s are simply a worldwide group that adheres to the Bible command at Isa 2:4 to “learn war no more”

 

[paarsurrey]

Also, you may take satisfaction knowing that because of their peaceful stand, JW’s were imprisoned, beaten into unconsciousness until they could spit their teeth out, and often executed.
For example, Here’s what happened to those German JW’s who refused to fight against you and your comrades in WWII:
jw-media.org/edu_videos/vcfi_e.htm
Here’s the torture Korean JW’s received for refusing to kill you and your comrades in the Korean War:
jw-media.org/vnr/5263723221/62734221.htm
Please enjoy seeing how these shameful JW’s are currently being treated:
tinyurl.com/24hssn
tinyurl.com/2yzd4w
tinyurl.com/yruzz8
This physical violence against JW’s was just as intense in the US, and Canada, and many other countries around the world. It continues today.
JW’s are simply a worldwide group that adheres to the Bible command at Isa 2:4 to “learn war no more”

Hi

I am sorry to what has happened to the peaceful JWs, but that is a part of history now. Why didn’t you follow in their footsteps and declare yourself a JW in the first place when you started writing here in this forum.

Are you ashamed of anything they did ? Please, defend your faith with arguments here , nobody is going to persecute you here if you are reasonable and peaceful.

I salute JWs for their peaceful activities, though these are at times only irritative and not reasonable.

Thanks

Since Jesus left no written Word of GodAllahYHWH revealed on him, or authenticated by him when he last departed from Galilee; hence my Catholic friends believe many creeds created by the Catholic Clergy not originated by Jesus himself in person.

 

[TraditionalCath]

Hi

I am sorry to what has happened to the peaceful JWs, but that is a part of history now. Why didn’t you follow in their footsteps and declare yourself a JW in the first place when you started writing here in this forum.

Are you ashamed of anything they did ? Please, defend your faith with arguments here , nobody is going to persecute you here if you are reasonable and peaceful.

I salute JWs for their peaceful activities, though these are at times only irritative and not reasonable.

Thanks

Since Jesus left no written Word of GodAllahYHWH revealed on him, or authenticated by him when he last departed from Galilee; hence my Catholic friends believe many creeds created by the Catholic Clergy not originated by Jesus himself in person.

should we also so salute the governing body for forcing their followers to refuse blood transfuisons that could result in their death? and if they have a transfusion and the elders find out about it and they tel the witness that God will punish him eternally for taking one if he doesn’t repent? sounds like emotional blackmail to me, and they also state that if the witness does not repent that he will be cast out and cut off from his friends and love ones.

should we salute them? no. definitely NOT! should we salute the governing body for lying time after time after time about the end of the world? NO! the witness followers might be neutral when it comes to war, but let me tell you, the governing body are a pack of wolves in sheeps clothing. period. nothing to salute there!

 

[paarsurrey]

should we also so salute the governing body for forcing their followers to refuse blood transfuisons that could result in their death? and if they have a transfusion and the elders find out about it and they tel the witness that God will punish him eternally for taking one if he doesn’t repent? sounds like emotional blackmail to me, and they also state that if the witness does not repent that he will be cast out and cut off from his friends and love ones

Hi

That would be a very irrational thing to do by the JWs, definitely a sort of blackmail. I also do know that they had been changing dates of arrival of Jesus (Second Times), well if they make mistakes they would suffer in the discussion, but that is their governing body, otherwise they are peaceful persons.

Thanks

 

[TraditionalCath]

Hi

That would be a very irrational thing to do by the JWs, definitely a sort of blackmail. I also do know that they had been changing dates of arrival of Jesus (Second Times), well if they make mistakes they would suffer in the discussion, but that is their governing body, otherwise they are peaceful persons.

Thanks

the followers are peaceful paarsurrey. not the governing body. they don’t let their followers read anti jw material that might cast the society in a bad light ( tell the truth about them ) the followers are like innocent sheep that are blinded and not realizing that their leaders are actually wolves.

 

[paarsurrey]

the followers are peaceful paarsurrey. not the governing body. they don’t let their followers read anti jw material that might cast the society in a bad light ( tell the truth about them ) the followers are like innocent sheep that are blinded and not realizing that their leaders are actually wolves.

Hi

JWs to clarify on these issues, if there is any clarification.

Thanks

 

[TraditionalCath]

Hi

JWs to clarify on these issues, if there is any clarification.

Thanks

iam an ex jw paarsurrey, and i can tell you that it is the truth. period. the governing body wont allow any witness to question their motives as witnesses are not allowed to even question what the governing body does or even their own publications because to do so would get them booted out. i myself questioned a lady i was studying with before i became a jw, and she told me not to even go there. she said it is “dangerous” to question the governing body. period. every ex witness here can testify to that fact. even biblesteve has to admit that the governing body is not to be questioned on their material, nor are they allowed to read anti jw material because to do so would get them branded as apostates or booted out. they are told that they must follow without question the society. they must read jw material and so on and on and on. its all garbage. period.they are discouraged to have independent thinking.

 

[hosemonkey]

I’m sorry you feel as you do.

Perhaps you can feel better to know that not one of your friends, family, or comrades has ever been killed in any war by one of Jehovah’s Witnesses. Your fallen friends were killed by members of other religions. What religion were those who killed your comrades? Any of them Christian?

Also, you may take satisfaction knowing that because of their peaceful stand, JW’s were imprisoned, beaten into unconsciousness until they could spit their teeth out, and often executed.

For example, Here’s what happened to those German JW’s who refused to fight against you and your comrades in WWII:

jw-media.org/edu_videos/vcfi_e.htm

Here’s the torture Korean JW’s received for refusing to kill you and your comrades in the Korean War:

jw-media.org/vnr/5263723221/62734221.htm

Please enjoy seeing how these shameful JW’s are currently being treated:

tinyurl.com/24hssn
tinyurl.com/2yzd4w
tinyurl.com/yruzz8

This physical violence against JW’s was just as intense in the US, and Canada, and many other countries around the world. It continues today.

JW’s are simply a worldwide group that adheres to the Bible command at Isa 2:4 to “learn war no more”

The arguments of JWs do not move me. We all owe a debt to our country, JWs depend on others to pay that debt. hiding behind the mask of religion.

 

[Allweather]

The arguments of JWs do not move me. We all owe a debt to our country, JWs depend on others to pay that debt. hiding behind the mask of religion.

My opinion is that the JW peacenik stance is a marketing ploy. They know that many people are impressed by this, especially given the history of many JWs (though certainly NOT all) standing firm and suffering persecution for this.

However, absolute nonviolence is not Scriptural. A religious postion which advocates absolute non-violence cannot be supported either from logic, or from the Bible. This is why the Catholic and Protestant Churches define Just War.

Every cult needs sales gimmicks Something to set themselves apart from the other sects and cults. Just like Ford needs to differentiate its products from those of Chevy and Toyota. One of the gimmicks used by the JWs is their pacifism.

And there is no doubt that they who live in the the Free World enjoy the benefits that many thousands suffered and died to procure. JW pacifists are no better than Mormon missionaries who went on their missions to avoid the draft, or atheist college students who hung out in college to avoid the draft. Freeloaders.

 

[hosemonkey]

Amen!

I served three combat tours in Vietnam, a war that certainly was not popular and which divides this country to this day. But oddly enough, as time goes by, I get comments from men of my age who managed to avoid serving their country in those days, expressing regret for not having served, a sense of shame for not having played a part. I have no quarrel with a man who, for religious reasons, will not kill or carry a weapon, but will instead, become a corpsman or medic, in order to serve. For these men, I have the highest respect. JWs do not fit this category, pacifism notwithstanding, they are cowards.

 

[BibleSteve]

The OP has indicated that he began this thread and posted links to the videos to afford an opportunity for those involved in this forum to see and understand info regarding the JW’s “internal operations and activities world wide.” He notes that “The information in these videos is generally not known to people whom JW’s call on.”
As one of the major purposes of the NCR forum is to provide an opportunity for non-Catholics of various faiths to educate Catholics and others regarding their beliefs, praxis, etc, this is an acceptable discussion topic here and should be viewed as an opportunity to understand evangelization techniques employed by JWs and, if desired by the thread’s participants, compare them to those of other faiths - Catholic and non-Catholic

The thread is currently off topic dealing with peoples view of war.

May I respectfully redirect this back on topic?

An Inside View of the Worldwide Preaching Work of JW’s

Part 1: youtube.com/watch?v=C2FyDK5Tx5g
Part 2: youtube.com/watch?v=pV9D-hevnmY
Part 3: youtube.com/watch?v=QsLlGD_d1xQ
Part 4: youtube.com/watch?v=K3x02rM2ybo
Part 5: youtube.com/watch?v=A5lBv2wUrzU
Part 6: youtube.com/watch?v=WhupDwkb1Dc

 

[hosemonkey]

The thread is currently off topic dealing with peoples view of war.

May I respectfully redirect this back on topic?

An Inside View of the Worldwide Preaching Work of JW’s

Part 1: youtube.com/watch?v=C2FyDK5Tx5g
Part 2: youtube.com/watch?v=pV9D-hevnmY
Part 3: youtube.com/watch?v=QsLlGD_d1xQ
Part 4: youtube.com/watch?v=K3x02rM2ybo
Part 5: youtube.com/watch?v=A5lBv2wUrzU
Part 6: youtube.com/watch?v=WhupDwkb1Dc

This topic has everything to do with the JWs lack of credibility regarding not only their defective theology but the extreme controlling tactics employed by their leadership regarding inability of their members to access dissenting opinion. Any religion that tells me that I will be “disfellowshipped” for honest inquiry is a dangerous mind-controlling cult and as such needs to be warned against. As far as I’m concerned, you are using this forum to spread dangerous propaganda. You have the freedom to post your drivel, but I also have the freedom to call it what it is.