Katie Holmes Returns To Catholic Church

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Perhaps Katie was not really comfortable being a Scientologist. Maybe today’s news
will have Catholics who have left the church reconsider coming back. Let’s keep
Katie and other fallen away Catholics in our prayers.
 
trials said:
It’ll be very confusing for her little daughter though - how do you explain the transition? “You remember that Church we used to attend with daddy, well it’s a load of rubbish, now we’re going back to the real Church…” Confusing for a kid, no?

Anyway, if the report is accurate, God bless her for taking a step in the right direction, and the fact that she has registered with them suggests she will attend and practice her faith. Sometimes being away from our Church for a while makes us better Catholics when we come back, it did for me anyway.
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Suri is not that old…She be fine
 
trials said:
It’ll be very confusing for her little daughter though - how do you explain the transition? “You remember that Church we used to attend with daddy, well it’s a load of rubbish, now we’re going back to the real Church…” Confusing for a kid, no?
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Well, the alternative (staying with Scientology) is completely unacceptable. I understand that Katie’s parents are practicing Catholics, and I suspect there has always been a Catholic presence of some sort in the child’s life. I don’t think this will be completely out of the ordinary for her.

Not a great parish, on so many levels. But it’s not Scientology. And that’s a very very good thing.

~Liza
 
Hopefully she will soon have her child baptized there, if she isn’t already (I don’t think she is).
 
Allegra said:
That would be great if they were affirming them as human beings and discussing how to overcome the challenges of living a chaste, celebate lifestyle in a world that is extremely discouraging and demeaning toward gay Catholics who are faithful to the teachings of the church. But that’s probably not what it is.
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Why do you automatically assume “that’s probably not what it is” ?
 
Good news!

But why the HuffPo link for the story?

Have you read any of the many anti-Catholic comments?

Our “tolerant” and “compassionate” left at work!

:nope:
 
scipio337 said:
Good news!

But why the HuffPo link for the story?

Have you read any of the many anti-Catholic comments?

Our “tolerant” and “compassionate” left at work!

:nope:
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I deliberately avoid the comments sections on sites like that. Why give them the power to raise my blood pressure?
 
This is wonderful news! I’m currently praying that Suri may join her mom in the Catholic Church (I fear what may happen if Suri is pushed into Scientology), but I’m also praying that Katie and Suri aren’t harassed like I’ve read sometimes happens when Scientologists leave the “faith”.
 
Seeker1961 said:
Why do you automatically assume “that’s probably not what it is” ?
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I have never, ever came across a parish who identified itself as “affirming, inclusive” etc. of gays and lesbians, and meant that they in fact, want to help them overcome same sex attraction and lead a chaste, Godly life. Ever. I have seen parishes that have support groups for Catholics struggling with SSA (usually Courage) and they clearly identify that that is what the group is for. This parish identifies their groups as “Gay Catholics” and “Catholic Lesbians.” No where do they suggest that these are support groups to help overcome SSA. Rather, the “Catholic Lesbians” group is described as a group that"provide a safe place for gay women to come together and discuss issues related to spirituality, identity and community." The “Gay Catholics” group is described as "a men’s group that meets on the first and third Fridays of the month at 7:00 PM in a welcoming, affirming environment to address gay Catholic life and how best to live authentically our commitment to the Gospel.“Gay Catholic life?” Somehow does not sound like they mean “celibate Catholic life for men struggling with SSA.” One of their bulletins even included a “blessing for Pride weekend” and a “Pre-Pride Mass.” Their facebook page includes a picture of the parish marching in the parade. Pride weekend celebrates homosexual acts. Definitely not something a faithful Catholic should be involved in.

In addition, the Huffington Post stated that they are known for their inclusive stance on homosexuality. If the parish were actually sticking to the Church’s teaching that homosexual acts are sinful, I don’t think HuffPo would have said that. More like, “this parish is known for its evil, intolerant stance that-gay-people-are-evil-and-shouldn’t-be-themselves-and-will-all-go-to-hell-wow-those-Catholics-they-are-so-behind-the-times-and-stupid.”

I’m not trying to bash this parish or any of the people who go there. I guess there is a slim chance that all of this is wrong and they are actually trying to help these people overcome their attractions. I don’t think so though. I never, ever bring up individual parishes on here, but this one was already brought up in the news story anyway.
 
scipio337 said:
Good news!
But why the HuffPo link for the story?
Have you read any of the many anti-Catholic comments?
Our “tolerant” and “compassionate” left at work!
:nope:
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I hadn’t thought to check until you mentioned it. I have to say - while it was definitely bad; filled with the expected hateful, moronic, ill-informed comments - it wasn’t quite as bad as I thought it was going to be. The majority is awful but it was good to see some Catholics speaking out on there and some others at least being fair. I expected worse on the Huffington Post. I’m sure the Church is rather regularly treated with ugliness there. I liked seeing this headline. Nice to see a public figure returning to the Church (even though, in this case, it’s a liberal, low parish) and some attention being given to that. Good for you, Katie, good for you.
 
Seeker1961 said:
Why do you automatically assume “that’s probably not what it is” ?
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Because if that’s what it was, the article would have described the parish as a cruel and moronic bunch of goons that are trying to “pray away the gay”.
 
Daim3 said:
I hadn’t thought to check until you mentioned it. I have to say - while it was definitely bad; filled with the expected hateful, moronic, ill-informed comments - it wasn’t quite as bad as I thought it was going to be. The majority is awful but it was good to see some Catholics speaking out on there and some others at least being fair. I expected worse on the Huffington Post. I’m sure the Church is rather regularly treated with ugliness there. I liked seeing this headline. Nice to see a public figure returning to the Church (even though, in this case, it’s a liberal, low parish) and some attention being given to that. Good for you, Katie, good for you.
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Yeah, it’s an awful thing when people have to expend so much energy being hateful towards others. People who know nothing about the situation making judgements based on their own preconceived notions and agendas.

I’m happy for Katie and her daughter, but I’m also sad for Tom that he remains trapped.
 
Allegra said:
Because if that’s what it was, the article would have described the parish as a cruel and moronic bunch of goons that are trying to “pray away the gay”.
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ha, that’s exactly what I said above.
 
Allegra said:
Because if that’s what it was, the article would have described the parish as a cruel and moronic bunch of goons that are trying to “pray away the gay”.
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So because the article was neutral about the Parish, then it must be doing something wrong? I didn’t see anything on the parish website that made me believe anything other than there were support groups for gay people there. Without absolute evidence of actions that do not conform to Church teaching I’m not inclined to think the worst of them. Did you ever think that the parish might be trying to reach out and evangelize to the gay community? The idea of a Courage group might be too much for someone who has just begun to reach out for God. Courage is great for those who have already made the choice to commit to Church teaching, but could be too much for someone taking those first tentative steps toward a new life.
 
Seeker1961 said:
So because the article was neutral about the Parish, then it must be doing something wrong? I didn’t see anything on the parish website that made me believe anything other than there were support groups for gay people there. Without absolute evidence of actions that do not conform to Church teaching I’m not inclined to think the worst of them. Did you ever think that the parish might be trying to reach out and evangelize to the gay community? The idea of a Courage group might be too much for someone who has just begun to reach out for God. Courage is great for those who have already made the choice to commit to Church teaching, but could be too much for someone taking those first tentative steps toward a new life.
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I think there are alot of parishes with support groups such as what you describe and I think they are wonderful things. However, having been made familiar with the previous work of the Huffinton Post, I find it rather unlikely that they would be inclined to describe any group as accepting toward gay people that did not accept the gay lifestyle as moral.
 
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