Kavanaugh Drama Risks Driving Moderates, Women Away From GOP

[HarryStotle]

Up until today I thought Lindsay Graham was a hollow man without a chest.

Today I would vote for him for president…

…if I were American.

There is still hope.

 

[HarryStotle]

Yes, luckily we have the FBI, recently led by such honest luminaries as Andrew McCabe, James Comey, and working hard in the trenches, Peter Strozk.

There is little we can trust in our government any more, sadly. The FBIs actions are apart of that.

This must be why the left wants Kavanaugh investigated by those “honest luminaries.”

Perhaps they’ll lose all of Ford’s emails and permit her to “bleach” her computer before they investigate, and even when they find egregious behaviour on her part, they’ll claim there was no evidence of intent.

"Yeah, the FBI! That’s it… … we need the FBI to investigate!"

 

[HarryStotle]

robertmidwest:

Defending yourself if you are falsely accused is not good?

There were important issues at play that transcended him and his appointment. He didn’t show awareness of that. I was educated by nuns who were the great examples of kenotic service. Kavanaugh didn’t show anything like that today today. Maybe he felt that he had to play to Trump.

Kavanaugh didn’t need to empty himself to demonstrate his incarnate humanity. He was already far beyond that point.

This was the trial in front of Pilate and Herod – we can even throw in a Judas or two, and a few absent disciples – complete with a scourging, a crowning with thorns, a crucifixion, and an attempt to bury him alive before the ninth hour and while he was still flinching.

Have a little empathy for the man, or has your ideology possessed you to the point that you have no capacity for sympathy?

 

[HarryStotle]

dvdjs:

He stood up for himself, not for what is good.

Defending yourself if you are falsely accused is not good?

According to some…

1. in order to be good you must be a victim. And
2. if you are not a victim you cannot be good.

So they are trying to reforge Kavanaugh into a good man by turning him into a victim of the most egregious injustice. Only then will he be good.

I know it is demented, but they will justify it as a kenosis, a self-emptying – a following in the footsteps of Jesus.

Or, at least, that is what they believe the nuns taught them.

In their eyes, the Roman soldiers were God’s angels applying the refining fires to the mind, heart and soul of Jesus.

Anyone who doesn’t accept this as the way of things, has “stood up for himself,” and “not for what is good,” which renders that person as evil.

Ugh.

 

[HarryStotle]

HarryStotle:

You mean besides my 30 years of lived experience as an educator?

Sorry to hear that your thirty years leads you to posit tat women teachers are dissuading boys form going to college. Sad.

Well, it isn’t every woman teacher, but it is widespread enough to leave a mark. It likely isn’t even intentional, but stems from the homogeneous culture within schools, fueled largely by social pressure from the progressive left, who have convinced them that it is the “caring” and “protective, nurturing” thing.

The worst of them are absolutely assured that they are doing the right thing. The problem is they are so sure they know what the right thing is.

 

[dvdjs]

Kavanaugh didn’t need to empty himself to demonstrate his incarnate humanity. He was already far beyond that point.

You comparison of Kavanaugh’s ordeal to the passion of Christ is gross if not blashphemous.

has your ideology possessed you

Not a fan of begging the question.

 

[Theo520]

Wow! I would thought ever one would agree with this. I mean who could disagree with it, until a read post 351, criticizing you for thinking this. This world has gone crazy.

Odd, that’s not what I read. 351 just shared an article link, and the article didn’t claim such.

 

[HarryStotle]

HarryStotle:

Kavanaugh didn’t need to empty himself to demonstrate his incarnate humanity. He was already far beyond that point.

You comparison of Kavanaugh’s ordeal to the passion of Christ is gross if not blashphemous.

We’ll see if Jesus agrees with you.

 

[HarryStotle]

Kmcicco2000:

I think that the message that it is okay for a teenage boy to hold a girl down and cover her mouth so she cannot scream is a bigger problem .

Wow! I would thought ever one would agree with this. I mean who could disagree with it, until a read post 351, criticizing you for thinking this. This world has gone crazy.

The distinction you are failing to make is between such an act being wrong – which absolutely no one would dispute – and whether the mere accusation of it having happened, in a charged political atmosphere, absent all corroboration, ought to be sufficient to ruin a man’s life.

The world has, indeed, gone crazy if we are going to leave out of any such judgement – one that will ruin a human being and his family – the requirement to actually prove such an allegation beyond all reasonable doubt.

I hope you are NOT stating that you believe a mere allegation, that a teenage boy 36 years ago held a girl down and covered her mouth so she could not scream, ought to be sufficient to ruin a decidedly good man’s life and change the entire temper of the country’s legal system without need for any corroboration whatsoever, except that one woman claims it with no substantiating evidence.

If you are, then, yes, this world has, indeed, gone crazy – at least one part of this world.

 

[MikeInVA]

Then don’t become a public figure.

Not that I have anything to contribute, but isn’t it sad that good people must be willing to be attacked and humiliated and lied against in order to serve our country?

 

[MikeInVA]

There were important issues at play that transcended him and his appointment.

So, he was selfish to defend himself from vile personal attacks? What are the transcendental issues that he should have acquiesced to?

 

[dvdjs]

So, he was selfish to defend himself from vile personal attacks?

He was selfish to adopt a belligerent attitude and focus on how he has been wronged.
The issues are misogyny, sexual abuse, the integrity of the Court, and the health of the nation.

 

[HarryStotle]

MikeInVA:

So, he was selfish to defend himself from vile personal attacks?

He was selfish to adopt a belligerent attitude and focus on how he has been wronged.

You have no idea what integrity looks like, apparently.

The issues are misogyny, sexual abuse, the integrity of the Court, and the health of the nation.

You wouldn’t be supporting the Dems if you valued the last two of those things.

What they are offering is a pastiche, a cardboard cutout, of actual principles and actual concern for women, for the court and for the country, but some are far too inebriated by ideological concerns for power and politics that they cannot recognize it.

 

[Annie]

Maybe the issues are abortion, slander, and subverting governmental processes.

 

[pnewton]

Ford needs to endure six FBI background checks in order for her credibility to attain the same level of credibility as Kavanaugh. Fair is fair, no?

The number is not as important as the thoroughness. But yes, here background is subject to equal scrutiny, as that would be a vital part of an investigation.

You comparison of Kavanaugh’s ordeal to the passion of Christ is gross if not blashphemous.

Amen to that!

He was selfish to adopt a belligerent attitude and focus on how he has been wronged.
The issues are misogyny, sexual abuse, the integrity of the Court, and the health of the nation.

For me, the issue is one of justice. Misogyny as a teenager would not disqualify him. Sexual abuse, as a teenager, if it was not felonious, should not disqualify him. Perjury should. I really think there is a big chance that Kavanaugh is right and Ford is either mis-remembers, or is the one committing perjury. The reason I would want this investigated, if I were Kavanaugh and innocent, is to either clear my name, or at least show that the allegations are iffy.

 

[pnewton]

One good thing to come from this hearing, minor though it is, is that most news outlets and blogs are showing their partisan bias in the reporting. It would be a good time to make a list of those that have a liberal bias and those that have a conservative bias. I am surprised, but it seems that FOX and CNN are the most balanced.

 

[HarryStotle]

dvdjs:

You comparison of Kavanaugh’s ordeal to the passion of Christ is gross if not blashphemous.

Amen to that!

This conclusion, coming as it does – we suppose – from faithful Catholics, is astonishing.

If you know anything at all about the Catholic faith, you ought to know that Christ has incarnated himself in the members of the Church after Pentecost.

He said, “Saul, why do you persecute ME?”

Have you forgotten that? What do you think he meant?

This is why Paul called the Church The Body of Christ, and why we call Mary, OUR Mother.

Now here we have a faithful Catholic, one who receives the sacraments weekly; who tries – despite what must be constant pressure in a place like Washington DC to do otherwise – to be faithful to the teachings of the Church.

Jesus also said, if they did this to me, they will do so to you, as well.

Up against this faithful Catholic, we have a group of like-minded politicos who have shown every intention of undermining Church teaching and Catholics, in general, and specifically Church teaching on the sanctity of life. And here the two of you are siding with the mob against one who is your brother, very likely falsely accused.

It is no blasphemy to say the sufferings of a member of the Church are a recapitulation of the sufferings of Jesus, and the persecution of that brother is a reiteration of the persecution of Jesus.

Jesus would not find it blasphemy.

Do you know who would find it blasphemy?

Those of the ideological persuasion that God does not and would not incarnate himself into a human being. Those who said of Jesus that he committed blasphemy for claiming to be the incarnation of the Son of God, that is who! The Chief Priests and Pharisees who thought they knew God so well that they alone had the authority to say who and what God would or could do at any given moment, and who charged Jesus the man with blasphemy.

Tread very carefully here with your responses.

The person being persecuted and condemned here is one of your brothers in Christ. He is a living member of the body of Christ undergoing a persecution and suffering for the sake of the Truth, who is Christ, and who has embodied itself, as far as Kavanaugh is willing, in him.

To say that it is blasphemy to point out that possibility is a gross misunderstanding of what Jesus came to accomplish.

If Kavanaugh is telling the truth, and we have very little actual reason for doubting that, then Christ, the Truth, is being persecuted and being caused to suffer in him.

This is orthodox Catholic theology and Christology. You should know that, if you are Catholic.

 

[HarryStotle]

dvdjs:

There were important issues at play that transcended him and his appointment.

So, he was selfish to defend himself from vile personal attacks? What are the transcendental issues that he should have acquiesced to?

Clearly, it would be the transcendent ideological notions that human beings ought to replace God with “ideals” and make humans the masters of our own destiny: the right to determine gender, to kill our offspring at will, and the right to determine that trial without due process is permissible if the ends justify the means.

 

[HarryStotle]

One good thing to come from this hearing, minor though it is, is that most news outlets and blogs are showing their partisan bias in the reporting. It would be a good time to make a list of those that have a liberal bias and those that have a conservative bias. I am surprised, but it seems that FOX and CNN are the most balanced.

According to your thesis that holding a position equals bias, shouldn’t you be charging CNN and Fox with a centrist bias?

Should we not, Instead of merely alleging bias, be basing our critique according to how well a position is argued and rationally set forth?

According to your bias regarding bias, everyone who holds some position or other is merely showing their bias, including the “balanced” or centrist bias. If that is the case then there is no way of determining if any of those positions – or some combination of them all – is one that we ought to hold.

I suppose then, that the correct or “unbiased” position is merely to refrain from holding any position on any issue whatsoever.

Congratulations on your lack of bias.

 

[dvdjs]

You have no idea what integrity looks like, apparently.

Why the personal shot? You don’t know me and tour basis for taking a swipe at my knowledge of integrity is vanishingly small.