Kavanaugh Drama Risks Driving Moderates, Women Away From GOP

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Kmcicco2000 said:
I think that the message that it is okay for a teenage boy to hold a girl down and cover her mouth so she cannot scream is a bigger problem . Let’s just believe the Prolife guy. This is why I sm having trouble with Christianity
. Not showing the Jesus I have believed in for my whole life
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I don’t recall Jesus ever saying it’s right to accuse people without credible evidence, and especially in the cause of killing unborn children. If you read that in your bible, please give us the chapter and verse.
 
I wonder if the day will ever come when women are judged in the same way men are?

It seems that women are to be allowed all the privileges of men, retain all the privileges of women, and never ever to be taken off their pedestals.
 
I’m not sure I see anything wrong with it, except that this current hostility toward boys and men cannot possibly be good for either men or women or the society at large.
 
LeafByNiggle said:
In 1959 Norman Rockwell painted this picture of how women were treated in the jury room. Not much has changed, except the cigarettes.
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Perhaps a modern day Norman Rockwell would sketch a different scene of a lone Kavanaugh sitting at a table in the courtroom with 62 women all speaking of him in glowing terms vouching for his character. Then “Judge” Hirono pipes up with, “Men should just shut up.”

I’m sure that modern Rockwell wouldn’t be celebrated exactly. He’d be branded as racist and sexist and misogynistic and never allowed to work again in the media.

The narrative must be protected at all cost.

True, though, it is no longer the cigarettes getting burned, so to speak.
 
Because “real” women (not the Sarah Palin type) are not judged on the same terms men are.

Women can throw their hats in the ring and get the privileges men have, but they don’t get the hassles men have.

OTOH, I guess you are right. Ellison’s ex is getting little traction, so it seems to all be about politics.
 
Allow me to correct this just a bit. It’s really not about politics. The defenestration of Kavanaugh is about abortion and nothing else… Despite the fact that he has not declared himself on Roe vs. Wade, he is a faithful Catholic. So that means he’s judged to be prolife, i.e., stereotyped because he’s Catholic.

It’s basically anti-Catholic bigotry to defend abortion, which is the only value the Dem party has anymore.
 
Ridgerunner said:
Allow me to correct this just a bit. It’s really not about politics. The defenestration of Kavanaugh is about abortion and nothing else… Despite the fact that he has not declared himself on Roe vs. Wade, he is a faithful Catholic. So that means he’s judged to be prolife, i.e., stereotyped because he’s Catholic.

It’s basically anti-Catholic bigotry to defend abortion, which is the only value the Dem party has anymore.
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I disagree. It’s about controlling the swing vote which will impact a vast number of issues that cross the SCOTUS bench.

Roe V Wade is pretty much set, the populace supports early term abortion (i.e. abortifacients) but not later term surgical abortions. States will continue to tighten restrictions as medical practices support early birth survival.
 
Theo520 said:
Roe V Wade is pretty much set, the populace supports early term abortion (i.e. abortifacients) but not later term surgical abortions. States will continue to tighten restrictions as medical practices support early birth survival.
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Roe is a ridiculous case. Even Ginsburg says its reasoning is wrong, though she would approve abortion on other grounds. It’s entirely possible that one of these times a change will occur that allows states to regulate it entirely. In the law, everything is “set” until the next contrary decision.

The populace actually supports restrictions on abortion, and by a large margin. Abortion poll finds 81% Americans, 66% pro-choice advocates support restrictions on procedure - Washington Times.

The left leaders actually don’t care much about most other issues upon which the court might rule because they’re as much in bed with business as Repubs are, if not more so.
 
Ridgerunner said:
Allow me to correct this just a bit. It’s really not about politics. The defenestration of Kavanaugh is about abortion and nothing else…
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You don’t think it could have maybe a little bit to do with overturning Citizens United, or Kavanaugh’s previous writings on Presidential self-pardon, his view of the Endangered Species Act, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, National Security vs. Privacy, Gun Control, net neutrality? There are plenty of other reasons for Democrats to want to see Kavanaugh defeated. Abortion rights is just one of those many reasons. But it is not “all about abortion.”
 
If Kavanaugh had been a decidedly pro-abortion NARAL recommended judge, none of those other issues would matter to the Democrats. He’d be in.

In any case, it’s just another judicial lynching.
 
JimG said:
f Kavanaugh had been a decidedly pro-abortion NARAL recommended judge, none of those other issues would matter to the Democrats. He’d be in.
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I think that that a number of these other issues loom very large at this moment.
 
Ridgerunner said:
The left leaders actually don’t care much about most other issues upon which the court might rule because they’re as much in bed with business as Repubs are, if not more so.
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So, you think they didn’t care that SCOTUS ruled ACA constitutional by claiming it was a TAX, something Obama adamantly said it wasn’t? What about the 2nd amendment.

You grossly underestimate the power of SCOTUS in supporting a progressive agenda.
 
Well it’s the legislature that writes the laws. If legislators would take that responsibility instead of offloading it to the executive and judicial branch, they wouldn’t worry so much about the Court. So in this case, any judge who might not legislate the way they want from the bench, must be destroyed.
 
Other than Citizens United, I doubt one out of 100,000 Americans knows what any of those are about.
And I think one would have to explain Citizens United to a lot of them. But I would also bet even few Dems would hold the same views on all of those.

But everybody knows what abortion is about.
 
dvdjs said:
What did she say that indicated that the reasoning was wrong?
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This, for instance:

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Roe, I believe, would have been more acceptable as a judicial decision if it had not gone beyond a ruling on the extreme statute before the Court. … Heavy-handed judicial intervention was difficult to justify and appears to have provoked, not resolved, conflict.”
 
Ridgerunner said:
Roe, I believe, would have been more acceptable as a judicial decision if it had not gone beyond a ruling on the extreme statute before the Court. … Heavy-handed judicial intervention was difficult to justify and appears to have provoked, not resolved, conflict.”
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Nothing in your quote about the reasoning being wrong.
She did favor a more incremental approach. That is far different from saying the decision was wrongly reasoned.
 
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