Keyes, priest arrested at Notre Dame protest

[pnewton]

The Yahoo news report said that they were arrested “after marching onto the University of Notre Dame campus”. As I understand it, the campus is private property, so their protest was not public. The right to public protest does not allow automatic entry onto private property.

No it does not. Legally, Notre Dame had the right to prohibit protest like they did. They did not want for this to be a political event. The problem is that the hypocrits at ND choose to bring in a politician, the President, a man who stands for the right of evil to prosper everywhere in this country. That is, they really wanted the political statement to be unilateral.

I hope all faithful Catholics of conscience everywhere will send their money and students elsewhere. As long as the monstrosity of blasphemy that is Notre Dame continues to where Our Lady’s name while honoring those who kill her children, no Catholic should have anything to do with this abomination.

 

[E.E.N.S]

Amen. I am a history instructor at a large secular university and am encouraged to show images from the Holocaust when lecturing on WWII, but if I were to show similar images of the new holocaust against the unborn in a lecture on the social revolution of the 60s and 70s I would jeopardize my job. But make no mistake, the parallels between the two are undeniable. Indeed, in both cases the status of personhood is the point of contention. Moreover, Margaret Sanger and her eugenics theory was the catalyst for both movements.

Quoted for truth.

Obama, the current state of our country, so-called Catholic universities and the majority of Catholic’s in gerenal make me want to vomit.

 

[peregrinus_WA]

The University of Notre Dame is quickly becoming the University of Shame. I’m inclined to wonder, if this is a Catholic University where is the Christianity? It’s actions so far have been anything but Christian, anything but supporting of the Right to Life. Is the University pro-abortion I wonder?

Yep. Now it should be called “Notre Shame”. They need to be punish and punished hard.

 

[maryj]

For the sake of His Sorrowful Passion
Have Mercy on us and on the whole world.

Hail Mary full of Grace
the Lord is with thee
Blessed are you among women
and Blessed is the Fruit of they Womb Jesus
Holy Mary Mother of God
Pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death Amen

 

[Traditional_Ang]

Brothers & Sisters:

Sent to CNN - Probably LATE, and esp. as they were going after emails, tweets, etc. for Obama…
Dear Fredricka:

By giving the Honorary Degree to President Obama, and by giving him the platform of the Commencement Address at “America’s Premier Catholic University”, Fr. Jenkins and Notre Dame University legitimize President Obama’s Pro-Abortion. Unlike issues such as the Death Penalty and Immigration, which are issues for Prudential Judgments, ABORTION is NOT an issue for Prudential Judgment. Abortion has always been Recognized by the Orthodox and Catholic Churches as Intrinsically Evil, because Abortion is the deliberate killing of INNOCENT HUMAN BEINGS for no other reason than to kill the Innocent human beings.

Michael
Watch the media, and if you have a chance, send something back… In fact, I think we would do well to gather a bunch of replies HERE at CAF and “Copy- Paste” one of those. It’ll be easier than trying to make it up on the fly…

Your Brother and Servant in Christ, Michael

 

[Insight]

Shocking news quotes:

“Students with their gowns on walked along happily Saturday afternoon with their parents apparently oblivious to the protest just a few hundred feet away.”

“A full page advertisement in the South Bend Tribune on Saturday had the headline: “Catholic Leaders and Theologians Welcome President Obama to Notre Dame.” The ad, signed by university professors around the country, many of them at Catholic schools, said that as Catholics committed to civil dialogue, they were proud Obama was giving the commencement address.”

news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090516/ap_on_re_us/us_obama_notre_dame_13

What is Catholicism coming to? Its like 1944 Headlines reading, Jews applaud and welcome Adolph Hitler.

God Bless

 

[Teelynn]

Yep. Now it should be called “Notre Shame”. They need to be punish and punished hard.

As I said in another forum on this same thread, I think the time for just “punishment” has come and gone. Notre Dame is run by an all secular board at this point anyway. They have slapped the Catholic Church in the face one too many times. The Catholic Church at this point needs to wash their hands of Notre Dame completely. They need to strip the University of everything Catholic, insist on a name change, and let them go on their secular way. They need to in essense “excommunicate” the University altogether. They have broken all the rules of behavior set down by the Catholic Community. In the process of all this Fr. Jenkins would be replaced by a completely secular President anyway, so that problem solved as well. I wish the Catholic Church would COMPLETELY DIVORCE Notre Dame. They are no more Catholic than President Obama is!!!

Notre Dame belongs definitely in the HALL OF SHAME!!!

 

[Daddums]

From an open letter to Fr. Jenkins from two of the women who were arrested along with Keyes and Fr. Weslin:

We are confused, Fr. Jenkins. Why would a Catholic University bar Catholic women from speaking the truth about a fundamental Catholic teaching, under the signage of a healing program that is sponsored by a Catholic priest, while praying the Rosary? Yet, the University would welcome, honor and have a person speak at Commencement who is virulently opposed to this same fundamental Catholic teaching?

Fr. Jenkins can you please explain this to us?

angelqueen.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25897&view=previous&sid=2245178d4202cfbdba4f80611b99298e

Daddums

 

[SFTor]

Shocking news quotes:

“Students with their gowns on walked along happily Saturday afternoon with their parents apparently oblivious to the protest just a few hundred feet away.”

“A full page advertisement in the South Bend Tribune on Saturday had the headline: “Catholic Leaders and Theologians Welcome President Obama to Notre Dame.” The ad, signed by university professors around the country, many of them at Catholic schools, said that as Catholics committed to civil dialogue, they were proud Obama was giving the commencement address.”

news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090516/ap_on_re_us/us_obama_notre_dame_13

What is Catholicism coming to? Its like 1944 Headlines reading, Jews applaud and welcome Adolph Hitler.

God Bless

Are you alluding to the fact that the Vatican was the first state to recognize the Nazi regime with the Concordat of 1933? Or that the Vatican aided large numbers of Nazi war criminals to flee to South America in 1946 and 1947? I’m not sure where your 1944 headline comes from though. Sounds unlikely, too, that they would welcome Hitler.

Here is Pope Pius XII’s suggested 50th birthday greeting to Adolf Hitler (1939):

“To the Illustrious Herr Adolf Hitler, Fuhrer and Chancellor of the German Reich! Here at the beginning of Our Pontificate We wish to assure you that We remain devoted to the spiritual welfare of the German people entrusted to your leadership… During the many years we spent in Germany, We did all in Our power to establish harmonious relations between Church and State. Now that the responsibilities of Our pastoral function have increased Our opportunities, how much more ardently do We pray to reach that goal. May the prosperity of the German people and their progress in every domain come, with God’s help, to fruition!”

Seems like there’s a Church tradition for working with secular leaders.

 

[MichaelTDoyle]

For the sake of His Sorrowful Passion
Have Mercy on us and on the whole world.

Hail Mary full of Grace
the Lord is with thee
Blessed are you among women
and Blessed is the Fruit of thy Womb Jesus
Holy Mary Mother of God
Pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death Amen

Amen

 

[bkovacs]

I wonder if this Fr Jenkins called the cops on them?. The Catholic Church is in a sorry state of affairs!. They turn on their own people!. Pretty sad when you can’t have a Pro Life rally on Catholic property!. Looks like this Fr Jenkins needs to face a modern day inquisition, held in Rome.

 

[Insight]

Jesus said to His own Apostles that His Church would in its history fulfill the pattern of His own ministry, His betrayal from within the Church, and His Crucifixion, before its glorious Resurrection. It seems we are seeing at Notre Dame, the most prestigious Catholic University in America, opening signs of that open betrayal of the Church from within.

Jesus, after being forbidden to enter the Temple and threatened with arrest was also betrayed by one of His own Disciples and arrested on holy ground for unrelentingly exposing and condemning the sins in the Church. Additionally Fr. Weslin and Allen Keys with more than 20 others were arrested by Notre Dame’s “Temple Guards”, the Notre Dame Security Police and turned over to Pilate, the civil authorities. There is also a striking parallel between the association and collaboration of Judas (who also had high aspirations of becoming High Priest in Israel!) with the Temple authorities and their guards and the president of Notre Dame and his “University Security Police.”

Further, as Jesus was denied His legal rights so are more than 20 witnesses to the faith being denied their legal right to bond being unconstitutionally detained in jail until their appearance before the judge. This denial of justice through the collaboration between the betrayers of the faith and civil authorities mirrors the collaboration between the Temple rulers and Herod and Pilate to condemn and detain and ultimately crucify Jesus. What will happen to the betrayers within the Church is precisely what Jesus said would happen to them; they will be ground to powder (Matthew 21:44) as was Judas.

God Bless

 

[andy120]

I understand that unauthorized protests can be prohibited on campus, but in this case it hardly looked like a protest.

Priests and lay people walking around campus praying the Holy Rosary. Shouldn’t that be a normal day at Our Lady’s University? Must I be careful what I pray for now?

Perhaps I’m missing something…? Does anyone else know if this was anything other than the an average Rosary walk around campus?

 

[ridiculeddisply]

Perhaps, it was the horrendous evil crime of trespassing on the grounds of a so-called private Catholic institution that behaves as a secular public one. In any event, in light of the mass genocide of innocent life, your sentiments may have been shared by many law abiding German citizens in the '30s and '40s. I trust you may not be aware of that

There were many forums for those wishing to protest to do, including a prayer group at the ND grotto, and an alternative conscientious objectors type graduation ceremony for those graduates feeling the need to graduate outside of the President’s presence. These were activities done on the grounds of the university, so you are distorting the facts here. Not to mention the fact that you are throwing out holocaust imagery and therefore implying my support of abortion and/or genocide because I am merely questioning why an RC priest, of all people, would feel the need to act with such little restraint when there were other more temperate avenues available to him.

I really do not wish to engage in a debate about abortion here - I agree with much of the sentiment expressed in the recent ND protests. However, U.S. Catholics are beginning to look quite silly, on a national level, when people in this country are dying from lack of adequate health insurance, are losing their jobs and cannot feed their families, and are losing their homes, and we then use THIS time, of all times in the past thirty plus years since abortion has been legalized, to throw all of our energy into this issue and to isolate one Democratic president as if he is the genesis of all of our woes. It shows a real lack of objectivity that much of us cannot see that, quite frankly, our priorities may be a little mis-aligned.

 

[Lorik]

There were many forums for those wishing to protest to do, including a prayer group at the ND grotto, and an alternative conscientious objectors type graduation ceremony for those graduates feeling the need to graduate outside of the President’s presence. These were activities done on the grounds of the university, so you are distorting the facts here. Not to mention the fact that you are throwing out holocaust imagery and therefore implying my support of abortion and/or genocide because I am merely questioning why an RC priest, of all people, would feel the need to act with such little restraint when there were other more temperate avenues available to him.

I really do not wish to engage in a debate about abortion here - I agree with much of the sentiment expressed in the recent ND protests. However, U.S. Catholics are beginning to look quite silly, on a national level, when people in this country are dying from lack of adequate health insurance, are losing their jobs and cannot feed their families, and are losing their homes, and we then use THIS time, of all times in the past thirty plus years since abortion has been legalized, to throw all of our energy into this issue and to isolate one Democratic president as if he is the genesis of all of our woes. It shows a real lack of objectivity that much of us cannot see that, quite frankly, our priorities may be a little mis-aligned.

Perhaps you are underestimating the tragedy of abortion. Watch this video and maybe it will help you understand why so many Catholics take this issue so seriously and always will, 36 years or 2036 years, as long as it takes it will be our priority. It really doesn’t matter if some people think we look “silly”. There is nothing silly about this issue.
video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7173223554941761163

 

[Insight]

There were many forums for those wishing to protest to do, including a prayer group at the ND grotto, and an alternative conscientious objectors type graduation ceremony for those graduates feeling the need to graduate outside of the President’s presence. These were activities done on the grounds of the university, so you are distorting the facts here. Not to mention the fact that you are throwing out holocaust imagery and therefore implying my support of abortion and/or genocide because I am merely questioning why an RC priest, of all people, would feel the need to act with such little restraint when there were other more temperate avenues available to him.

I really do not wish to engage in a debate about abortion here - I agree with much of the sentiment expressed in the recent ND protests. However, U.S. Catholics are beginning to look quite silly, on a national level, when people in this country are dying from lack of adequate health insurance, are losing their jobs and cannot feed their families, and are losing their homes, and we then use THIS time, of all times in the past thirty plus years since abortion has been legalized, to throw all of our energy into this issue and to isolate one Democratic president as if he is the genesis of all of our woes. It shows a real lack of objectivity that much of us cannot see that, quite frankly, our priorities may be a little mis-aligned.

The murder of 55 million babies in the United States is far worse than the Insurance issues, and certainly merits more attention. Jenkins just allowed the most Pro-Death person in perhaps the entire United States give a lesson on abortion to young impressionable Catholics, this certainly warrants action.

Perhaps Jesus looked silly overturning the money-changers tables, but He did what was right and needed to be done. He acted!

God Bless

 

[onetruechurch]

However, U.S. Catholics are beginning to look quite silly,.

Catholics are only looking silly because we care about “souls”. There were many souls that even Jesus could not reach when he preached for three years. Many Jews did not follow Christ because they wanted “material” security. Every act of abortion is murder. All the issues you listed are just material comforts.

 

[AnotherChance]

Catholics are only looking silly because we care about “souls”. There were many souls that even Jesus could not reach when he preached for three years. Many Jews did not follow Christ because they wanted “material” security. Every act of abortion is murder. All the issues you listed are just material comforts.

I agree with you, One True Church. The only Catholics who looked silly to me yesterday were the ones smiling, applauding, and laughing when an infanticide supporter was using them to advance his political goals.

I wish I could send thank you letters to the people who had the bravery to stand up during the speech and protest the words coming from Obama’s forked silver tongue. Watching an elderly priest get hauled away from ND’s campus was just sickening. My high school-aged Catholic daughter had been considering Notre Dame for college, but I just can’t imagine at this point sending them a tuition check after watching that digusting display yesterday.

 

[pepin1980]

hello everybody,

I just sow the video at Gloria.tv,
So a Catholic priest can’t walk onto a “Catholic” university???
SHAME on the security, and before all, on the ADMINISTRATION of this university
SHAME on students who didn’t care…
SHAME!!!

ABORTION IS KILLING
EVERYONE WHO DON’T PROTEST AGAINST IT ( AND ACCEPT IT) CAN’T CALL HIMSELF CATHOLIC

I will pray for Fr. Jenkins, he is a true catholic and martyr

 

[redrosetea]

I was watching Fr Groeschel last evening and he said
Alice Von Hildebrand called him and said people were being arrested right in front of the chapel

She siad this was entirely reminiscent of the Nazi’s during the Holocaust