Kneeling for Communion at OF Mass

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The wife veils and both of us receive kneeling and on the tongue. If we are visiting at a new parish we usually wait until the end of the communion line and then kneel and receive on the tongue. As more and more EF Masses become available the less of a problem this becomes.
 
Whats the point of calling one a norm over the other then? They should just say, “people may choose how to receive, either standing or kneeling.”
 
ConstantineTG said:
Whats the point of calling one a norm over the other then? They should just say, “people may choose how to receive, either standing or kneeling.”
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Because calling it a norm has allowed priests and bishops to jerk around regular Catholics seeking Holy Communion kneeling for the last 20 years.

Hopefully we’ve seen that last of that.
 
Will_S said:
There’s already another thread talking about it. I posted a link above.

But it says basically: “the norm is standing, unless a person chooses to kneel”

And the part about “catechizing” those who prefer to kneel has been removed. 👍

wdtprs.com/blog/2011/06/what-does-girm-160-for-the-usa-really-say/
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Yes!

What was the sense of saying that one could not deny communion to those that kneel, only to later imply they were poorly catechized?
 
Will_S said:
Because calling it a norm has allowed priests and bishops to jerk around regular Catholics seeking Holy Communion kneeling for the last 20 years.

Hopefully we’ve seen that last of that.
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I’m not against the Church allowing different ways to receive or different postures. But if they say that you can do one thing or another and no one can deny you either one, then what is the point of having a norm?

At the Cathedral here in Vancouver, people can kneel on the Communion Rail or receive standing at the center aisle. There are priests distributing for both, its totally up to you how you want to receive.
 
Will_S said:
Because calling it a norm has allowed priests and bishops to jerk around regular Catholics seeking Holy Communion kneeling for the last 20 years.

Hopefully we’ve seen that last of that.
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No, actually it was because in 1967 the Holy See directed bishops’ conferences to pick one way or the other for receiving Communion, and instructed people to obey willingly. I’ve previously described this here and among other places.
 
MarkThompson said:
No, actually it was because in 1967 the Holy See directed bishops’ conferences to pick one way or the other for receiving Communion, and instructed people to obey willingly. I’ve previously described this here and among other places.
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Thats right Mark. But not since it seems that there is really no preference on one posture over the other, why call it a “norm”?
 
MarkThompson said:
No, actually it was because in 1967 the Holy See directed bishops’ conferences to pick one way or the other for receiving Communion, and instructed people to obey willingly. I’ve previously described this here and among other places.
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The norm established for the Dioceses of the United States of America is that Holy Communion is to be received standing, unless an individual member of the faithful wishes to receive Communion while kneeling (Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments, Instruction, Redemptionis Sacramentum, March 25, 2004, no. 91).

Kneeling is a perfectly legitimate and acceptable posture in the United States. No more denying. No more berating. No more “catechizing”.
 
Monica4316 said:
Hi 🙂

Okay I really want to cover my head during Mass, and kneel for Communion… but I really don’t want to draw attention to myself. I can’t go to the Latin Mass most Sundays. My parish is pretty contemporary, and something like this would definitely stand out… it’s also a large parish.

My question is, does anyone here kneel for Communion at the OF Mass? The ideal for me is going to the TLM but that’s often impossible at the moment 😦 if you do…HOW do you do this? did you speak to the priest beforehand? has there been any opposition from anyone? do you find it helps you or distracts you cause you’re doing something different?

My intention is not to do anything “different” or to look really traditional… I just want to show Christ that reverence. I was thinking of asking the parish priest what he thinks first, and getting his permission. I would also ask a priest who’s been guiding me spiritually. But - I just wanted to see what the experiences of other people have been with this… I have some friends who kneel at the Novus Ordo and it doesn’t sound very easy at all, but my parish seems more ‘modern’ than theirs, and there’s no one at my parish who receives Communion kneeling. I feel like I already stand out and I dont want to stand out more 😦

My other question is… is this allowed by the Church? If it helps, I live in Canada.

thanks! 🙂
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From what I know, receiving Holy Communion is allowed everywhere, and the faithful everywhere have a right to receive in that manner if they wish. Communion in the Hand is only allowed in a few countries, and by special permission of the Holy See.

Whenever I’m at Mass, whether it is an OF, or the EF, I kneel to receive Holy Communion on the tongue. I’ve done this for about seven months. Nobody, whether a priest or Eucharistic Minister, has objected to this and all have given it to me in that way.

The only ‘incident’ I had was when on the Sunday after Low Sunday (I forget if its the Second or Third Sunday of Easter), a priest asked me if I was a new Catholic and when I asked why, he said “Well, why did you kneel down?” And I just brushed it off by saying “well, it’s what I’ve always done.”

As I’m male, I’ve no experience on wearing a veil to the OF.

In the end, in regards to both issues, do what helps you worship Christ the most. Other people have their problems and they’re in no position to ‘correct’ you when you’re not doing anything wrong. Who knows? Maybe you’ll start a trend.
 
Paxvobis said:
From what I know, receiving Holy Communion is allowed everywhere, and the faithful everywhere have a right to receive in that manner if they wish. Communion in the Hand is only allowed in a few countries, and by special permission of the Holy See.
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Actually, CITH is allowed in many countries.
 
Will_S said:
The norm established for the Dioceses of the United States of America is that Holy Communion is to be received standing, unless an individual member of the faithful wishes to receive Communion while kneeling (Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments, Instruction, Redemptionis Sacramentum, March 25, 2004, no. 91).

Kneeling is a perfectly legitimate and acceptable posture in the United States. No more denying. No more berating. No more “catechizing”.
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If the bishops have indeed proposed this new rule and it has been approved by Rome, then that will be true whenever it comes into force, which I assume will be with the rest of the Missal in November. At present, kneeling, although tolerated, is not a legitimate posture for reception in the Ordinary Form.
 
I’d love to be able to receive communion kneeling…but usually i genuflect before getting communion then take it on the tounge.

Pax Christi,

:highprayer: TemplarJPN :knight2:
 
MarkThompson said:
If the bishops have indeed proposed this new rule and it has been approved by Rome, then that will be true whenever it comes into force, which I assume will be with the rest of the Missal in November. At present, kneeling, although tolerated, is not a legitimate posture for reception in the Ordinary Form.
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Redemptionis Sacramentum #91
In distributing Holy Communion it is to be remembered that “sacred ministers may not deny the sacraments to those who seek them in a reasonable manner, are rightly disposed, and are not prohibited by law from receiving them”. Hence any baptized Catholic who is not prevented by law must be admitted to Holy Communion. Therefore, it is not licit to deny Holy Communion to any of Christ’s faithful solely on the grounds, for example, that the person wishes to receive the Eucharist kneeling or standing.

A law that is not only unenforceable, but for which enforcement has been actively prohibited by the supreme lawgiver, is no law at all. The new text isn’t a new rule, but rather states accurately what the law currently is and has been since (at least) 2004. But still…

Do-on’t stop be-lee-eevin! Hold on to that fee-ee-ee-lin!
 
ConstantineTG said:
Actually, CITH is allowed in many countries.
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Yes, indeed. The last time this was discussed, posters named the countries where they had personally received CITH, or could quote the relevant documents allowing it, and the results indicated that CITH was allowed pretty much everywhere in the world apart from two dioceses in South America, a parish in Rome, and Lithuania.
 
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