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The_Barbarian
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The radicals planned to make the Democratic National convention a disaster. A key element of the plan was to incite the police into acts of brutality against demonstrators. Few of the demonstrators actually knew about that, but in the crowd were people whose job it was to make it happen.
Cursing, throwing things at the police, committing petty acts of vandalism, they finally goaded the police into what was later described by the Walker Commission as a “Police Riot.”
Police in this country had not been trained for this kind of thing, and the lessons learned were applied in training for riot and crowd control.
I doubt very much if Limbaugh or the leftists will be able to recreate the madhouse that was the 68 democratic convention.
Cursing, throwing things at the police, committing petty acts of vandalism, they finally goaded the police into what was later described by the Walker Commission as a “Police Riot.”
Police in this country had not been trained for this kind of thing, and the lessons learned were applied in training for riot and crowd control.
I doubt very much if Limbaugh or the leftists will be able to recreate the madhouse that was the 68 democratic convention.
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Doyle_Mashern
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Goldwater notwithstanding, extremism is unseemly on both ends of the political spectrum.
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goofyjim
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That’s why I don’t listen to hotair, I mean, talk radio.
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Ender
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Let’s at least be clear about this: there is zero possibility that Limbaugh will have anything to do with creating a disturbance in Denver at the Democrat convention. His comment was not about causing riots but was about the benefit to Republicans that would likely come as a result of riots should they occur. If there is a disturbance in Denver neither Limbaugh nor any conservative will be a part of it.
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rlg94086
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Exactly…that and a little bit of pre-Schadenfreude.
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deb1
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I like the news overall better today because we get a variety of opinions that weren’t available when I was younger.
I am not a fan of Limbaugh but I have heard his show. He, along with Glen Beck, tend to use some humor and sarcasm in their shows. That is why I can’t determine from the article if Limbaugh was just being sarcastic or if he was serious. I doubt that he would call for a riot, though.
It seems to me that the media seems less likely to get the humor of conservatives then someone like Jon Stewart. Stewart can say outrageous things and everyone understands that he is being funny or flippant. I have no idea why.
I really enjoy watching the Daily Show, but I can recognize and laugh at it without always agreeing with the politics behind the jokes.
As far as Barr, I don’t think that she is trying to be funny with some of what she says. She seems serious with all her commnets.
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The_Barbarian
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Too late for that. He’s already, like Barr, expressed a desire to see it happen. Some people will be stupid enough to make it happen. Both of them will be responsible.
It’s far from the most irresponsible thing he’s said, but I think it’s probably the worst thing he’s said since he stopped abusing drugs.
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The_Barbarian
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Unlike Barr or Limbaugh, Barry Goldwater was a decent person, a man of honor and values, who loved America, and was willing to put his life on the line to defend it.
Comparing him to sludge like Barr and Limbaugh is an insult.
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jman507
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I think Limbaugh expressed interest in the Republicans keepig the majority in both houses in Congress after the 2006 election, was he responsible for that? I would suppose that Limbaugh does not have the “Midas Touch,” nor everything he wants he gets.
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mary_bobo
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And because you do not like someone’s point of view, you are clairvoyant to know that they do not love America. Fascinating.
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mary_bobo
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I remember that convention. The Dems, in order to prevent that from happening again, they came up with the brilliant idea of super delegates. If there is a problem, it is of their own making.
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b_justb
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Maybe we can read what Rush actually said rather than relying on what his antagonists say he said:
You have to get about 60% into the call before you hit antagonist sound bit heaven.
rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_042308/content/01125112.guest.html
Let us compare and contrast that with:
recreate68.org/
This is the Recreate 68 web site. That has received little to no attention in the media. Who is calling for violence in Denver?
Is it any wonder Rush calls them the Drive-By-Media.
Rush Limbaugh is not the savior of the world, nor is he the antichrist.
You have to get about 60% into the call before you hit antagonist sound bit heaven.
rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_042308/content/01125112.guest.html
Let us compare and contrast that with:
recreate68.org/
This is the Recreate 68 web site. That has received little to no attention in the media. Who is calling for violence in Denver?
Is it any wonder Rush calls them the Drive-By-Media.
Rush Limbaugh is not the savior of the world, nor is he the antichrist.
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No, they won’t both be responsible unless you have some reason to believe that conservatives will be in Denver masquerading as disaffected Democrats. Barr said “let’s go cause trouble”; Limbaugh said (essentially) “if they make trouble let’s laugh all the way to the bank.”
Like many of your comments this is a half truth. Limbaugh was addicted to pain medication because of back problems. That’s not quite what is implied by your slur.
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The_Barbarian
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Unfortunately, as Ted Koppel pointed out, media people who express a desire for people to do things like this, often get their wish. Human nature.
It is a telling commentary on Limbaugh’s character that he hopes there will be rioting. The police in Denver, who will be putting their lives on the line, if he gets his wish, are probably not pleased. Nor, I think, are the businesses downtown, whose property will be damaged, or the citizens of Denver, who have done nothing to Limbaugh to deserve his ill will.
Barbarian observes:
It’s far from the most irresponsible thing he’s said, but I think it’s probably the worst thing he’s said since he stopped abusing drugs.
It’s a whole truth. He was, according to the testimony of one of his employees, buying drugs illegally and abusing them. It’s true.
**Cline has told reporters, and reportedly the FBI, that she supplied the 52-year-old Limbaugh with “thousands” of OxyContin, Lorcet and hydrocodone pills between 1998 and 2002. She claimed some of the handoffs occurred in the parking lot of a South Florida Denny’s restaurant. Cline told the Enquirer she would hand Limbaugh a cigar box full of pills and he would return the box to her, full of cash.
“Here’s the cabbage,” Limbaugh would reportedly tell Cline.
Palm Beach authorities were expected to question Limbaugh by within days. According to the Post, one target of the probe is Limbaugh’s pharmacist Louis Beshara and his wife, Gloria, who are under investigation for allegedly supplying drug dealers with prescription hydrocodone pills. **
nbc6.net/news/2530362/detail.html
Can you imagine what Limbaugh would have been like, if Bill Clinton had been making drug buys for an addiction? You don’t have to; someone else did:
**Lots to talk about today. You all know already that Bill Clinton, our former president, has admitted an addiction to prescription drugs.
It’s interesting to see the way the liberal media are playing this. I’m looking at a copy of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, the Saturday, October 11th, edition – the day after the big announcement. Well, the story is on Page 2, and right next to his photograph, in large boldface print, is the following quote: “I take full responsibility for this problem.”
That’s interesting, folks, because if you look at his actual statement – not what the liberal media say he said, but what he really said – you get a different take on it. First, he says he’s got back problems. So he’s blaming it on that. Then he says he had surgery, but the surgery wasn’t successful. So he’s blaming it on the doctors. Then he says the pain medication was addictive. So he’s blaming it on the pharmaceutical companies. Folks, he blames it on everybody but himself! But as long as he puts in that obligatory line about taking responsibility, that’s what the liberal media are going to grab: Clinton takes full responsibility!
Here’s another interesting thing in his statement. I love this one. He says a lot of athletes have admitted drug problems and have been treated like heroes. Huh? Can you name one athlete who admitted a drug problem and was then treated like a hero? How about Darryl Strawberry? Maybe liberals thought Strawberry was a hero, but I don’t think most of us felt that way. And then Clinton says, “I refuse to let anyone think I’m doing something heroic here.”
You want to know what that’s about? He’s telling his friends in the liberal media how he wants this thing played. He wants to be called a hero for admitting his problem. That’s why liberals confuse so many people. They mean the opposite of what they say.
And I’m telling you folks, the liberal media are going to do it. He’s going to be a hero. I can already see the spin on this: Clinton accepts responsibility! Doesn’t blame others!
I know you don’t believe me – “Rush, not even the liberal media can pull that one off!” – but just watch. I’m telling you. Just watch.
Another thing. I heard him on the radio the other day. He was whimpering, “I want to tell you about this because you’re like family to me.” If there are any liberals out there listening, I’d like to ask you this: Weren’t you people like family six weeks ago? How about six months ago? Two years ago? But he didn’t feel the need to tell you then, did he? So why now? You think it could be because he’s been caught? Because his high-priced attorney has told him he’d better act remorseful?
Speaking of getting caught, have any of you read about those tapes and e-mails the cops have? Heh, heh, heh. You won’t read them in the mainstream press, or hear about them on the Clinton News Network, but they’re a hoot. He sounds like he’s auditioning for a part in the next Cheech and Chong movie. He calls money “cabbage,” and he refers to his favorite pills as “blue babes.” It’s always interesting to hear the way somebody talks when he thinks nobody is listening.
I know what liberals are going to say: “This is a time for compassion.” Let me be very clear about this, folks. I have compassion. But my compassion is for all the people who believed in the guy. He was their shining star. He could do no wrong. But you know something? I probably don’t have to worry. Because his followers are going to still believe in him. That’s the thing about liberals! You can’t convince them! You can show them the facts. You can say, “Look, here is what he really said, and here is what he really did,” but they don’t want to know the truth. That’s the big difference between them and us. Liberals are afraid of the truth.**
drudge.com/2003/20031013.htm
Right on, it is.
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goofyjim
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You’ve done your homework. Which is why I don’t listen to Rush anymore.
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Ender
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Limbaugh has not expressed a desire to see rioting in Denver. He was perhaps a little too flip with his comment about dreaming of riots because of the political damage it will cause the Democrats but he has been quite clear that he would neither support nor instigate them.
Your statement is factually correct; what it implies is not. Darryl Strawberry was a drug abuser; he was addicted to cocaine. This is the kind of behavior most commonly associated with the phrase “drug abuse”. Limbaugh and apparently Clinton were addicted to pain killers; it is still an addiction and their actions were illegal, but there is a world of difference between their behavior and Strawberry’s.
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rlg94086
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When did Ted Koppel point that out?
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goofyjim
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I really don’t see much difference between the two. If you end up buying pain killers illegally it is still abuse. It doesn’t need to be glossed over by the idea of them being prescription meds. It’s still abuse of a substance. And in the example shown here Limbaugh was making his comments about Clinton then did the same thing himself. So it is still the pot calling the kettle black.
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