Korean Church calls for death penalty abolishment

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This is exciting news to hear not many months after the California Bishop’s Conference also called for an end to the Death Penalty. I love the direction that my Church is moving in. Let’s keep it going into 2011.

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Korean Church calls for death penalty abolishment

Published Date: December 31, 2010

KOREA: The Catholic Bishops’ Conference of Korea (CBCK) has urged the government to abolish death penalty laws.

The CBCK’s Subcommittee for the Abolition of Capital Punishment together with Amnesty International Korea and the Council for the Abolition of the Death Penalty issued a joint statement to this effect on Dec. 30.

Korean citizens today believe that the country can maintain peace without such laws, the statement said.

South Korea’s last execution was on Dec. 30, 1997, and according to Amnesty International, the country was designated as an abolitionist in practice in 2007, as there had been no execution during the past 10 years.

South Korea presently has 61 inmates on death row.
 
yosephdaviyd said:
This is exciting news to hear not many months after the California Bishop’s Conference also called for an end to the Death Penalty. I love the direction that my Church is moving in. Let’s keep it going into 2011.

ucanews.com/2010/12/31/korean-church-calls-for-death-penalty-abolishment/
Korean Church calls for death penalty abolishment

Published Date: December 31, 2010

KOREA: The Catholic Bishops’ Conference of Korea (CBCK) has urged the government to abolish death penalty laws.

The CBCK’s Subcommittee for the Abolition of Capital Punishment together with Amnesty International Korea and the Council for the Abolition of the Death Penalty issued a joint statement to this effect on Dec. 30.

Korean citizens today believe that the country can maintain peace without such laws, the statement said.

South Korea’s last execution was on Dec. 30, 1997, and according to Amnesty International, the country was designated as an abolitionist in practice in 2007, as there had been no execution during the past 10 years.

South Korea presently has 61 inmates on death row.
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Here in the Philippines capital punishment was abolished in 2006 and the Church was jubilant.
 
There would be a better cause for jubilation if the bishops could provide a sensible reason for opposing the death penalty.

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I support the Korean Church’s call to end the death penalty and pray that it will be abolished across the world.
 
Ender said:
There would be a better cause for jubilation if the bishops could provide a sensible reason for opposing the death penalty.

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Ender the reason is the valuation of all human life - from the womb to the tomb. There is nothing more sensible than that.
 
This is an important point: no argument exists to justify opposition to capital punishment based on its being immoral. The Church has throughout her entire history supported the State’s right to employ it, therefore its application of itself cannot be considered wrong and arguments against it based on the “valuation of all human life” are invalid in that they are contradicted by 2000 years of Church teaching.

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Jharek I don’t think anyone here is going to disagree with you on that - thanks for the straw man. That being said, I think it is obvious the direction the Church is headed in on the issue.
 
yosephdaviyd said:
This is exciting news to hear not many months after the California Bishop’s Conference also called for an end to the Death Penalty. I love the direction that my Church is moving in. Let’s keep it going into 2011.

ucanews.com/2010/12/31/korean-church-calls-for-death-penalty-abolishment/
Korean Church calls for death penalty abolishment

Published Date: December 31, 2010

KOREA: The Catholic Bishops’ Conference of Korea (CBCK) has urged the government to abolish death penalty laws.

The CBCK’s Subcommittee for the Abolition of Capital Punishment together with Amnesty International Korea and the Council for the Abolition of the Death Penalty issued a joint statement to this effect on Dec. 30.

Korean citizens today believe that the country can maintain peace without such laws, the statement said.

South Korea’s last execution was on Dec. 30, 1997, and according to Amnesty International, the country was designated as an abolitionist in practice in 2007, as there had been no execution during the past 10 years.

South Korea presently has 61 inmates on death row.
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Amnesty International is pro-abortion. :eek:
 
Ender said:
The Church has throughout her entire history supported the State’s right to employ it, therefore its application of itself cannot be considered wrong
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True enough, and the Church admits that there are circumstances today where its use may be justified.
Arguments against it based on the “valuation of all human life” are invalid in that they are contradicted by 2000 years of Church teaching.
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Hardly invalid, as the Church holds human life as valuable, and teaches that capital punishment should be proscribed except in very narrow circumstances. Read the Catechism, for what it’s worth to you. You’ll see the Church’s position.

It may not get abolished, but it’s a worthy goal.
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
True enough, and the Church admits that there are circumstances today where its use may be justified.

Hardly invalid, as the Church holds human life as valuable, and teaches that capital punishment should be proscribed except in very narrow circumstances.
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Given the Church accepts that capital punishment may be justified, such punishment cannot then be regarded as being counter to a just valuation of human life.
Read the Catechism, for what it’s worth to you. You’ll see the Church’s position.
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Regrettably the position put forth in the Catechism (2267) is a mixture of error and opinion and has caused a great deal of confusion about this topic. Hopefully it will be corrected sooner rather than later.

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Ender said:
Regrettably the position put forth in the Catechism (2267) is a mixture of error and opinion and has caused a great deal of confusion about this topic. Hopefully it will be corrected sooner rather than later.
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I see. The Catechism is a mixture of error and opinion. That’s quite presumptuous of you to say that, but I know that you wouldn’t be the first to find fault with the faith or with its teachings. 🤷

As for me, Catholicism and its Catechism will do fine.
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
I see. The Catechism is a mixture of error and opinion. That’s quite presumptuous of you to say that, but I know that you wouldn’t be the first to find fault with the faith or with its teachings.
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I’m sure you realize that I was quite specific in my comment, limiting it to section 2267. Your generalization in applying my comment to the entire catechism is inappropriate. Nor is it all that presumptuous of me to believe this as I am by no means alone in holding it. Is it your belief that the catechism contains no opinions at all?

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I’m sure you realize that I was quite specific in my comment, limiting it to section 2267. Your generalization in applying my comment to the entire catechism is inappropriate. Nor is it all that presumptuous of me to believe this as I am by no means alone in holding it. Is it your belief that the catechism contains no opinions at all?

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The Catechism of the Catholic Church is without error in it’s entirety.
 
I would support the non-use, not necessarily the abolishment, of the death penalty, simply because in practice it is the most expensive form of penalty to impose. Those who are sentenced to death, at least in this country, are nearly guaranteed another 20 years of life.

Still, I would not want to be responsible for not imposing the death penalty on a convict who is released and then goes on to kill again. That has happened time and time again under our current system.
 
1holycatholic said:
The Catechism of the Catholic Church is without error in it’s entirety.
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Not exactly. The Church has never claimed infallibility for everything she teaches and the reason she doesn’t is because she recognizes that she may not be right about everything. In fact, section 2267 contains a rather obvious error. It says:

*The traditional teaching of the Church does not exclude, presupposing full ascertainment of the identity and responsibility of the offender, recourse to the death penalty, **when this is the only practicable way to defend the lives of human beings effectively against the aggressor. ***

This claim is incorrect: the Church never restricted the use of capital punishment only to cases when it was necessary for defense. The first part of that sentence is true, the bolded part is not.

The most reasonable conclusion to draw from this discussion is that, once again, the Catechism is simply wrong from an historical point of view. Traditional Catholic teaching did not contain the restriction enunciated by Pope John Paul II. (Kevin Flannery, S.J., Professor, Pontifical Gregorian University - Rome)

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Neither of those actions even imply that the Church has ever taught error.
 
Since “Catechism” means “teachings” I’m not sure what you mean. I’m not speaking of punctuation, spelling, translation, printing errors etc…
 
FIDEI DEPOSITUM
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THE DOCTRINAL VALUE OF THE TEXT

The Catechism of the Catholic Church, which I approved 25 June last and the publication of which I today order by virtue of my Apostolic Authority, is a statement of the Church’s faith and of Catholic doctrine, attested to or illumined by Sacred Scripture, Apostolic Tradition and the Church’s Magisterium. I declare it to be a valid and legitimate instrument for ecclesial communion and a sure norm for teaching the faith. May it serve the renewal to which the Holy Spirit ceaselessly calls the Church of God, the Body of Christ, on her pilgrimage to the undiminished light of the kingdom!
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No room for error there.
 
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