La. bishops: No guns in Catholic churches

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umm, private places can make any rule they want regarding fire arms. My father’s place of business bans all weapons regardless of whether people have a legal permit to carry and conceal. Schools and court houses are government property, and they can legally ban all weapons from the property, even for those legally carrying. There is no constitutional issue in the bishops’ rule. One could argue the practicality of a rule or that it is safer that some people have their guns on them, but you can not make a constitutional issue out of it. 🤷
 
I also have a 1st Amendment right to free speech but if I were to advocate women’s ordinations the Church would surely censure me.
 
I haven’t read the article in reference to banning concealed carry handguns. From the responses herein, it appears the ban is applicable to Catholic properties such as churches. Personally, I am a supporter of the 2nd Amendment and the right to carry concealed handguns in those states that allow it. Sadly, my state, Rhode Island, is not among them. Yet, I don’t see a conflict between the Louisiana bishops ban and the 1st and 2nd amendments. One must examine both sides of this issue with reason, wisdom and the public interest: In this case the parishioners of the affected parishes. I have concluded that the bishops ban is reasonable, legal and totally within their rights to bar concealed carry handguns on church property.

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Phemie said:
In my baptismal parish one pastor banned the 4th degree Knights from carrying their swords. “No weapons of war in church.”
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Sigh! More evidence the world has lost it’s grip on common sense.
 
Byzman said:
usatoday.com/news/religion/2010-07-21-guns20_ST_N.htm

This is a constitutional right of the 2nd Amendment, and by the State, that the Bishops are not allowing in the Catholic Church in Louisiana. Bishops once again get it wrong here!
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Not quite so fast, Mr. Byzman…

The law specifically allows owners of private property to have the final say in the matter… and the Bishops have had their “final say,” which is “No guns allowed in church”!

Frankly, with the growing amount of lawlessness in the country, particularly in urban areas, I applaud this decision by the Bishops; when I am in church, I want to be free of concern about anything else besides me, my soul and my Lord. I want to exercise my right to worship as I please, without concern for my safety or the safety of my family (or the rest of the congregation, when I’m on duty as an usher.)

I wonder why the USAToday had to specifically refer to the Catholic Church, and why they chose to make an issue out of it? I would imagine that most other churches would prefer to have their churches free of firearms, as well… http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/ponyguy/Shrug.gif
 
I see no problem with banning swords from a church building. What about that implies a loss of common sense? I seriously doubt that any 4th degree Knight considers his sword a weapon, but that’s irrelevant. It is a weapon- an instrument designed to kill and maim. Even when it’s used for purely ceremonial purposes, that’s what it is.
 
All the more reason to carry there. Once a place is known to have weapons “banned”, its open season for those who have no regard for that particular rule.

A Baptist pastor was killed, during a Sunday service, not too far from my home parish. Were I in Louisiana, I’d still carry to church, but would be sure to confess it to my priest. Probably a venial sin, right? 😃
 
Byzman said:
usatoday.com/news/religion/2010-07-21-guns20_ST_N.htm

This is a constitutional right of the 2nd Amendment, and by the State, that the Bishops are not allowing in the Catholic Church in Louisiana. Bishops once again get it wrong here!
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The Bill of Rights constrains government action, not private action. The Church is a private organization and isn’t constrained by the Second Amendment.

Guns have no place in the presence of the Blessed Sacrament. It is sacrilege.

I am a firm supporter of the right to bear arms. I am a Texan. I own a gun. However, there is such thing as appropriateness. Guns and other weapons have no place in any place where the Blessed Sacrament is present.
 
scipio337 said:
All the more reason to carry there. **Once a place is known to have weapons “banned”, its open season for those who have no regard for that particular rule. **
A Baptist pastor was killed, during a Sunday service, not too far from my home parish. Were I in Louisiana, I’d still carry to church, but would be sure to confess it to my priest. Probably a venial sin, right? 😃
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I would consider it a very good death indeed to die or be killed(better yet) while at church adoring our lord.

Peace!👍
 
There is a great scene in Twain’s The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn where the two feuding families go to the same church, bring their guns with them, and then listen to a sermon about “brotherly love.” Nothing changes, and they slaughter each other later. Oh well, at least they did not do it in church!
 
The title of this thread does not correspond to the article. The article’s headline is: La. bishops: No guns in Catholic churches
 
Ponyguy said:
I wonder why the USAToday had to specifically refer to the Catholic Church, and why they chose to make an issue out of it? I would imagine that most other churches would prefer to have their churches free of firearms, as well…
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Yes, I think most churches would feel the same, too. However, the Archdiocese of New Orleans represents 108 parishes, so when it reacts to a controversial new law, it makes a bigger splash than when a single church does the same.
 
I don’t see that the original poster has been back. Not sure what his/her motive was.
 
Some on this thread have said that guns don’t belong in church, others have said that it is the church’s right(which I believe) to not allow guns, and others have said the Church is not infringing upon the 2nd Amendment, but I say that the 2nd Amendment is implicitly about defense.

What has now happened is the Louisiana Bishops have now established their churches as “gun free zones”(no guns allowed), or rather, better called “criminal protection zones.” Criminals really don’t care about laws or care about where guns can or cannot be carried. They still will carry away into these places, all the while leaving the good guys, the law-abiding citizens, in this case, the worshipping Catholics, leaving them defenseless.

Sadly to say, when something like this happens, the passing of laws allowing the right to carry, the right of the private party simply responds by placing a ban of guns on their property, thinking it is in the best interest of everyone, but in actuality they create “defense free zones.”
 
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