LA cardinal was assaulted over Church abuse: paper

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Free Republic says that the police are now investigating -
All they had to do was call the hospital and make a statement!

How much money will C. Mahony cost LA this time.
 
I do not condone a physical attack on the person of
any ordained priest or bishop because we must respect
the OFFICE even if the Office-Holder leaves very much to be desired.

Having said that, it is at least possible that
God may be trying to “wake up” the Cardinal to the
sinfulness of his covering up crimes, knowingly ordaining
practicing homosexuals to the diaconate, hob-nobbing
with defiantly pro-abortion politicians who claim to be Catholic
instead of publicly rebuking these people, etc.
According to a pattern set in the Old Testament,
God sometimes removes his spiritual mantle of protection
from His priests who behave wickedly.
This may not be the case here, but then again…

Jaypeeto4
+JMJ+
 
Disgusting! Oh the anti-Catholic bigotry in this nation is so horrible! Lord have mercy on them. :signofcross:
 
WanderAimlessly said:
Two things:

  1. *]It was bound to happen and I am not surprised it happen
    *]It was wrong for the man to attack the Cardinal no matter what you think of him.
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  1. I pray for the Bishops daily, particularly the US Bishops, that they may increase in holiness and lead the faithful along the path of righteousness; that they seek Heavenly guidance and reject the teachings of this world, no matter how similar they may sound to Christ’s teaching.

    Where is the sex scandal in the Asian church, the European Church (no attendance, so no scandal), the African church? I know that there is some level of complaint, but nothing like in the US. We are only paying for the sins of the 60s, 70s and 80s, but, clearly, the Lord’s help is needed.

    May all have a very merry Christmas and a blessed new year.
 
If the heirarchy does not chastise the Cardinal then doesn’t that turn the ball over to the layity? (PLEASE, this is NOT accepting the violence). The Church is facing the greatest crisis ever BECAUSE it is being corrupted FROM WITHIN.

When the Church was persecuted during pagan Rome it was from WITHOUT.

After all these lawsuits for abuse and the “moving around” of pedophile priests by bishops it makes us srop to think “Where is the layity on all this—why do we tolerate a inept or corrupt bishop?” Maybe civil law should charge them with being accessory to pedophilia. They (the guilty ones only) deserve prison. :knight1: :knight1:
 
johnstown_johnn said:
If the heirarchy does not chastise the Cardinal then doesn’t that turn the ball over to the layity? (PLEASE, this is NOT accepting the violence). The Church is facing the greatest crisis ever BECAUSE it is being corrupted FROM WITHIN.

When the Church was persecuted during pagan Rome it was from WITHOUT.

After all these lawsuits for abuse and the “moving around” of pedophile priests by bishops it makes us srop to think “Where is the layity on all this—why do we tolerate a inept or corrupt bishop?” Maybe civil law should charge them with being accessory to pedophilia. They (the guilty ones only) deserve prison. :knight1: :knight1:
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Certainly something to ponder. Since the evil one failed in his relentless attacks from without, he used human weakness to rot the church from within, as you say. Some of the Bishops apparently lapsed into “corporate think” and circled the wagons instead of conforming to God’s will. But, even this will not ruin the church - although it surely tests it greatly. Where’s the respect for civil authority as taught by Paul?

Again, I pray for them daily.
 
po18guy said:
Certainly something to ponder. Since the evil one failed in his relentless attacks from without, he used human weakness to rot the church from within, as you say. Some of the Bishops apparently lapsed into “corporate think” and circled the wagons instead of conforming to God’s will. But, even this will not ruin the church - although it surely tests it greatly. Where’s the respect for civil authority as taught by Paul?

Again, I pray for them daily.
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Totally agree. Could be that in these days the layity is being called upon to defend the Church where errant/corrupt clergy are the offenders.

The layity means much more than fulfilling our obligations and the sacraments…it means to stand up for the Church. We never imagined that the enemies would be INSIDE the Church.

Maybe the answer is not lawsuits but CRIMINAL charges against enablers. :knight1:
 
retrovert said:
My wife and I talked about this very thing months ago and surprized it has not happened sooner. I am not bashing the Cardinal, but he is certainly not very popular in our diocese. I pray that nothing more serious happens to him. He really needs security whenever he goes out.
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I’ll do it. I would love to guard a bishop. Do I have to be Catholic? Cause I am Orthodox. As far as I am concerned I don’t care who the subject is, unless you are a government official serving a death warrent, ya ain’t gettin through. I wasn’t a woman when I guarded the OB doctor.😃
 
A “retired in residence” Priest in my parish spoke, in general terms, about the Mahoney situation a while back. He made a point of saying that NOTHING of the abuse scandals was “generally known” (which I guess was widely reported [to the contrary] and which he denied categorically) and he also made a point of saying that he USED to be a Mahoney supporter but no longer was so. It was, as you might imagine, a rather startling message.

Having said that, Mahoney may have his issues with various persons, but NO ONE should be the victim of physical abuse, even Cardinal Mahoney, no matter WHAT. NO ONE is eligible for violence. VIOLENCE is not of God.
 
I agree, NO ONE should be the victim of physical abuse.

As a convert (beginning ofthis millenium) I don’t know or pay attention to any news/info about the Cardinal before that. What I have seen makes me wonder. He must have seemed positive in some aspect to have been made a cardinal (by JPII?). What was he like in his younger years - just curious.
 
I really think this problem in USA needs to be handled by the Vatican, every few days there is something in the news regarding something that happened 15 years ago and progressing. No doubt this is still happening, and will still occur to happen.

Record payouts isn’t going to solve this problem.
 
Holly3278 said:
Disgusting! Oh the anti-Catholic bigotry in this nation is so horrible! Lord have mercy on them. :signofcross:
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Frankly in light of the abuse scandle and the Church covering it up. The anti-Catholic bigotry is something the church has no right to complain about.

PS Not all the abusers where gay many prayed on girls. So stop scape goating homosexuals people.

The fact is stories like this are a wake up cry to a dieing church in America and Catholics can either take notice. Or sit in corners and complain about bigotry and that people need to shut up and just obey without question (that latter may still be what kills the RCC world wide).
 
cyberwolf001 said:
Frankly in light of the abuse scandle and the Church covering it up. The anti-Catholic bigotry is something the church has no right to complain about.
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Wrong!! We are allowed to complain no matter what the circumstances are. It is the anti-Catholic bigotry that is blowing the scope all out of proportions and it has been around LONG BEFORE the abuse scandal.

It is the same anti-Catholic bigotry that is threatening the Seal of Confession by forcing priests to reveal what is said, and passing the repeal of statute of limitations for suits against the Catholic Church Only (what ever happen to equal protection under the law)
 
Lemme spell it out for you. The Church has been protecting CHILD MOLESTERS.

IF this had ban any other religion than Christianity people would have been all over them in a matter of seconds. The Priest dead or jailed, the organizations fined and many parents would be in danger of losing there children if they decided to convert into the faith.

All this talk about bigotry comes down to “Waaa we can’t force others to practice our religion anymore.”

OR

“Waaa we have to take responsibility for our mistakes.”
 
The cardinal shouldn’t have been assaulted, but it’s disgusting that he isn’t in prison along with all the other members of the hierarchy worldwide who protected paedophiles.
 
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