LA prelate ‘deeply concerned’ about Trump on immigration

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You asked, I answered.

I am an “illegal.” I have violated traffic laws this very week. I bet there are hundreds of millions of “illegals” maybe 90% of Americans. As you said, we can’t pick and choose what laws to follow.
I’m curious, since you oppose the words murderer or thief what about the word sinner? Doesn’t that have the same ill effect you claim for other nouns?

As you know when people use the word ‘illegal’ they mean illegal immigrant. While you may find solidarity with illegals in breaking the law you don’t find it in the way the word ‘illegal’ is intended to express.
 
I am kind of shocked. I have never been called a liberal any where but here, and that has happened only a few times, each time for standing with the Church.
As have I. But remember what Cardinal George said to the effect of once we’re able to label something or someone, it saves us the trouble of thinking. Hardly flattering.
 
As have I. But remember what Cardinal George said to the effect of once we’re able to label something or someone, it saves us the trouble of thinking. Hardly flattering.
I understand the sentiment but it can be taken too far. We don’t want to not label poison as such because labels stop us from thinking. We don’t want to not label pedophiles as such because it saves us from thinking.
 
I understand the sentiment but it can be taken too far. We don’t want to not label poison as such because labels stop us from thinking. We don’t want to not label pedophiles as such because it saves us from thinking.
Well, both have connotations of “stay away from” if that’s your intent.
 
I agree with the Donald, the first step in resisting an enemy is to name it correctly.
 
I agree with the Donald, the first step in resisting an enemy is to name it correctly.
I admit to being completely baffled by the Obama Admin’s resistance to discuss radical Islam by name. We should be encouraging the rest of Islam to do the same, to call out their elements that are causing them serious harm.
 
So we are to accept without question what the bishops tell us to accept?
I would say that when the are unanimous on an issue, Catholic should be slow to reject them. In not case should any Catholic be criticized for following their teaching. Your question is a straw man as no one is suggesting that we accept without question.

I also believe your economic position is faulty, as labor need is not a set amount. Production is not set. A country can have economic growth, which needs more labor. I know many in the United States have grown used to decline, but it need not be so.
 
I agree with the Donald, the first step in resisting an enemy is to name it correctly.
I will also bet that you will find not bishop anywhere that considers undocumented/illegal immigrants who have said they are an enemy. Besides, this strategy sounds too much like Goebbels for my comfort. We do not need any more historical parallels with that than we already have.
 
I would say that when the are unanimous on an issue, Catholic should be slow to reject them. In not case should any Catholic be criticized for following their teaching. Your question is a straw man as no one is suggesting that we accept without question.

I also believe your economic position is faulty, as labor need is not a set amount. Production is not set. A country can have economic growth, which needs more labor. I know many in the United States have grown used to decline, but it need not be so.
Not when there are 95 million people out of the work force and we are bring in cheap labor.
 
I will also bet that you will find not bishop anywhere that considers undocumented/illegal immigrants who have said they are an enemy. Besides, this strategy sounds too much like Goebbels for my comfort. We do not need any more historical parallels with that than we already have.
Any time uses the argument that refers to Nazi, they have lost the argument. You just lost.
 
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