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cathoichelp
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The rugby tourment in Manchester is named after Mathew Bingham a gay rugby player… who helped take down the 9/11 flight that crashed rather than hitting a target 
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benidict
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LOL! Tell them they are welcome!She is very cute
There is a really cute video of her singing this song w a little girl …
it made me cry
And I have a feeling that gay rugby team will rock Manchester and I am sure they are really grateful for your support … just guessing though lol
Most artist would meet their release date of a new C.D. no matter what, so they wouldnt miss out on any profits, correct? Is it my understanding she is actually gonna forgo profits for her principles? I find that admirable.
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benidict
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Wow!The rugby tourment in Manchester is named after Mathew Bingham a gay rugby player… who helped take down the 9/11 flight that crashed rather than hitting a target
I did not know that. Did you know him personally, or know anyone who did? 
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cathoichelp
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Yes we knew Mathew and I still know his Boyfriend… He was an amazing amazing person- Also a very good rugby playerWow!
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benidict
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I shall pray for all of you.
And I am sorry for your loss. I find it interesting to note, that he died fighting the same enemy, I am. God bless him. 
At the expense of his own life, and the others who were inolved in this, He and they saved hundreds of more people. May Gods Light Shine on them. Eternal rest grant them oh Lord. Also give my warmest reguards to his partner. Peace
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twoangels
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Her lyrics are clearly endorsing homosexual behavior. “Don’t be a drag. Just be a Queen” is playing on the other mean of the word “drag.” She’s saying that dragqueens are queens and should value themselves as such. She is not saying not to be a dragqueen.
Honestly I don’t know how much clearer she could be about the message. She portrays herself as a bi-sexual and already speaks at gay pride parades. Moreover the number one claim of homosexuals to rationalize this behavior is that they were born that way. They see their sexual differences as no different than the differences between skin color. They see those that oppose homosexual lifestyles as being the same as a racist. Usually those opposed to homosexual activities are Christians and thus they feel that its important to emphasis that you don’t need to deny the existance of the creator to embrace this. They claim that for us to condemn homosexual activity is claiming that God makes mistakes and thus that God is imperfect.
It is true though that they are actively denying original sin and that all of us are born with disordered desires.
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cathoichelp
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Not that exactly -
She is saying god makes NO mistakes … she is saying that Christians that say this is disordered are mistaken
that God made people this way and he is perfect and makes no mistakes …
She says this is how God made you and he makes no mistakes
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90Domer
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OK, I know I’m going to get some people riled because of this, but I don’t think it’s respectful to call her fans her “Little Monsters.”. I must say it was an experience seeing her in NYC (unplanned, but you just never know who you’re going to meet in NYC).
However, she is a marketing genius–much like Madonna was back in the day.
Gotta admit, I’m a product of 80’s music, so nothing quite compares.
However, she is a marketing genius–much like Madonna was back in the day.
Gotta admit, I’m a product of 80’s music, so nothing quite compares.
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I think you get the idea from all the previous posts that this song is definitely about homosexuals and endorsing homosexual behavior. Catholics are not so much about whether a person is born with a particular orientation or not, it’s what they DO with the tendency that defines them as holy or worldly. That goes for all of us.
Is it a mortal sin to listen to her music? Mortal sin has to involve grave matter. I am not a priest or anything- you might want to run this by one in the confessional, but generally speaking, music such as Lady Gaga’s isn’t wholesome, but it isn’t mortal sin-worthy either. Use your best judgement. Pray and ask God what He wants for you. Maybe ponder as to whether this music affects you in a subtle, sneaky way.
There was a Calvin and Hobbes cartoon once a while back, where Hobbes and Calvin were discussing violent TV shows. Hobbes asks Calvin if he thinks that the violence on TV desensitizes him at all, and Calvin replies, “Nah. I’d like to shoot the idiots who think this stuff affects me.”
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The music is poor. Pray for her and her legions of fan. She promotes sin.
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Wow, so many posts 
Anyways, I guess it isn’t good for you, but not a “grave matter” either. It doesn’t seem to be trying to get people to become homosexuals (thus she’s not giving scandal), but rather aims to convince society that we shouldn’t isolate homosexuals, which is true.
I do think it is bad though, as she doesn’t seem to think anything is disordered by being homosexual.
Am I thinking correctly?
Anyways, I guess it isn’t good for you, but not a “grave matter” either. It doesn’t seem to be trying to get people to become homosexuals (thus she’s not giving scandal), but rather aims to convince society that we shouldn’t isolate homosexuals, which is true.
I do think it is bad though, as she doesn’t seem to think anything is disordered by being homosexual.
Am I thinking correctly?
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cathoichelp
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She contributes to a lot of causes that are not homosexual at all. Like Haiti and Japan…Wow, so many posts
Anyways, I guess it isn’t good for you, but not a “grave matter” either. It doesn’t seem to be trying to get people to become homosexuals (thus she’s not giving scandal), but rather aims to convince society that we shouldn’t isolate homosexuals, which is true.
I do think it is bad though, as she doesn’t seem to think anything is disordered by being homosexual.
Am I thinking correctly?
she supports stand up for kids -
she supports charities that take care of homeless and run away teens with all types of social and behavioral problems
She really supports youth … She gives to organizations that work with parents and children to rebuild relationships -
She supports HIV/AIDS
She supports Grief Support AND Disaster Relief.
Stand up to Cancer …
So really to call anything she does “garbage” is rather uninformed in my opinion… simply because she supports homosexuals w/o asking them to remain chased. Or adhering to Catholic doctrine.
She has used her stardom to give back to the community on SO many levels …
I don’t agree with a lot of Catholic doctrine but that doesn’t mean I can’t see a lot of the good Catholic Charities have done.
I don’t need to agree with every single thing to recognize humanitarian efforts.
I think you are safe supporting her or listening to her music. She has a really good heart.
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twoangels
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But the argument holds no water. It has nothing to do with mistakes. They may be born that way, but we are not born the way God designed us. We are born with original sin. Certainly one could get into God being all knowing and thus knowing that Adam and Eve and all of humanity would fall into sin before He created them. One could argue that somehow that is a part of God’s design, but that would be His permissive will.
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benidict
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Motley Crue are Still Rocking the House!!! Mick Mars Forever!! Im still waiting for his solo blues cd. I hear hes not happy with the work, and is still fiddling around with it. I will be the First In line to pick it up.
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benidict
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So do alot of country artist. I still like country though too!
As far as if her music is poor? Thats a matter of individual taste.
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benidict
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Theres a lady who knows all that glitters is gold, and shes buying a stairway to heaven…Do you like this classic my friend. Its from Led Zepplin. how bout this one. So I called up the captain, plz bring me my wine. He said. We havent had that spirit here since 1969… Whats that about? I know what its about. its from hotel california. Great groups great songs. both with a veiled message worse than anything Lady Ga Ga is pushing. Im still trying to get the solo down to Stair way to heaven down. Its a toughie.
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cathoichelp
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She is saying it’s not sinful. You disagree. Lots of people have different opinions. Her view on homosexuality is not relevant to all her humanitarian efforts.
You don’t have to agree with a persons theology to understand the good they are creating with their lives.
Her intent is to use her talent to save lives.
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I don’t get my feathers ruffled over lady Gaga because she really is no more scandalous than Madonna or the Indigo girls! I don’t spend my time stressing over whether the music I listen to is sinful or not because it has no influence over my life, at all! I enjoy it, but music has never shaped my views of the world. Literature, poetry, and music are all the arts, and while some would argue they have passive impacts on how we think and what we believe, I take a different approach.
I think we like and dislike music and the arts based on bits and pieces of what we see in ourselves and the rest of the world. Pop culture is often a reflection of how people see the world, not necessarily what is true or what the general populous does. Politically charged tunes are catered to those who are already politically charged, classical music appeals to those who enjoy the classics, and so forth and so on.
If you want to break down which artists promote sin, you will be hard pressed to find any remnant of pop culture that doesn’t portray (different than promoting, mind you) sin or sinful behavior. We are all human, after all, and singing about Wasting Away in Margaritaville doesn’t mean Jimmy Buffet promotes drunken behavior!
Anywho… my 2 cents!
I think we like and dislike music and the arts based on bits and pieces of what we see in ourselves and the rest of the world. Pop culture is often a reflection of how people see the world, not necessarily what is true or what the general populous does. Politically charged tunes are catered to those who are already politically charged, classical music appeals to those who enjoy the classics, and so forth and so on.
If you want to break down which artists promote sin, you will be hard pressed to find any remnant of pop culture that doesn’t portray (different than promoting, mind you) sin or sinful behavior. We are all human, after all, and singing about Wasting Away in Margaritaville doesn’t mean Jimmy Buffet promotes drunken behavior!
Anywho… my 2 cents!
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benidict
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Poor me something tall and strong! You are soooo right!I don’t get my feathers ruffled over lady Gaga because she really is no more scandalous than Madonna or the Indigo girls! I don’t spend my time stressing over whether the music I listen to is sinful or not because it has no influence over my life, at all! I enjoy it, but music has never shaped my views of the world. Literature, poetry, and music are all the arts, and while some would argue they have passive impacts on how we think and what we believe, I take a different approach.
I think we like and dislike music and the arts based on bits and pieces of what we see in ourselves and the rest of the world. Pop culture is often a reflection of how people see the world, not necessarily what is true or what the general populous does. Politically charged tunes are catered to those who are already politically charged, classical music appeals to those who enjoy the classics, and so forth and so on.
If you want to break down which artists promote sin, you will be hard pressed to find any remnant of pop culture that doesn’t portray (different than promoting, mind you) sin or sinful behavior. We are all human, after all, and singing about Wasting Away in Margaritaville doesn’t mean Jimmy Buffet promotes drunken behavior!
Anywho… my 2 cents!
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